Is Opera 25 being pushed to Presto users via Presto's update-checking?
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A Former User last edited by
A note on that "refusal clicking" and such
If you're having a dialogue - or "dialogue" - with which you're not yet closely familiar, do not push anything straight ahead: you need to attentively mouse-over the whole area of the "dialogue" first - it may appear a whole dumb shit link (like in ads); if you see any tooltips - like in your status/tooltip bar - heed them -- if they interrupt or change upon, say, moving between 'yes' and 'no'.
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blackbird71 last edited byWith a malware pop-up window, anywhere you mouse-click (including an "x" or "close" button) can trigger the payload it's linked to, because it has been created by JavaScript. Task Manager (ctrl+shift+esc) is the safest way to kill the process that creates, or supports creating, the pop-up. Using the keyboard Alt+F4 is an alternative way to kill the currently-active window on the system display, but you have to be sure it's done when the pop-up appears, before taking any other action or clicking anything else (such a click focuses and makes the "anything" active, so it will instead be killed via the Alt+F4 action).
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A Former User last edited by
Using the keyboard Alt+F4 is an alternative way to kill the currently-active window on the system display, but you have to be sure it's done when the pop-up appears, before taking any other action or clicking anything else (such a click focuses and makes the "anything" active, so it will instead be killed via the Alt+F4 action).
If nothing in your taskbar is highlighted - except if it's the "dialogue" task. Right?
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blackbird71 last edited by
On my Win7 system, bringing up Task Manager highlights only the first process in the list, so a user trying to kill a process has to find one with the appropriate name. That's why I generally use the Alt+F4 method first to try to kill the few malicious pop-ups I've encountered... it generally works fine, at least for me. However, if a user is 'nervous' and click-happy, he can easily pull focus away from the pop-up and by the time he thinks about using Alt+F4, he will instead kill whatever else he's focused the display upon. That's why I usually indicate to others the 'safest' way is to open Task Manager and try to match the process name to the pop-up window subject.
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A Former User last edited by
My Opera 12.17 is set to Notify me. I didn't receive any notification that a new Opera was available.
When I do a manual check, it tells me that I am using the latest version of Opera.Hi Pesala, long time no hear!
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My Opera 12.17 is the same.
That may be because I've also got Opera developer 26 installed in a different folder?
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A Former User last edited by
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And why you answered on another topic?
Just because that one seemed sorta relevant (by title).
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blackbird71 last edited by admin
Add to the list (now 4 users):
https://forums.opera.com/post/53960
This one is significant in that it purportedly installed Opera 24.
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Deleted User last edited by
4 users out of how many thousands (probably tens of thousands) of updated users. I think the number is relatively insignificant.
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A Former User last edited by
My dear hockeyist, if something happens, it happens for a reason.
Being more correct and less poetic - there's always the cause and the trigger.
"Ha! 4 weirdos out of 140 million citizens contracted Ebola?
IT'S INSIGNIFICANT - forget and let's be positive!",
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sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by
For me, 12.17 still says it is the latest version. Keep in mind, some external programs (security suites and such) might also try to update Opera for users ... I know that AVG has an update manager, though as I also have the latest version of Opera I can't say if it would try to update Presto or not.
Strangely, there was just an update to the Android version (currently called just "Mobile Classic"), but none on desktop.
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blackbird71 last edited by
4 users out of how many thousands (probably tens of thousands) of updated users. I think the number is relatively insignificant.
You probably would see things in a somewhat different light if you had been one of the four, and who was now trying to figure out if you were dealing with malware or a new Opera policy/experiment... and wondering how to now secure your system against similar perturbations in the future. Note that not all these users' "updates" functioned after the event... and the others are unsure about what they've now got, since they don't know from where it came - or why. At least some are certain they had blocked Presto Opera updating within that program... some had been using Presto Opera in sandboxes... and now, two different Blink Opera versions appear to be involved in the situations.
This is not about user stats, satisfaction/popularity indices, or anything like that. It's about trying to eliminate possible causes of a growing class of reported user problem, and so to determine both possible clean-up remedies and effective ways of protecting users in the future. But first and foremost, one has to understand what is going on.
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blackbird71 last edited by
... Keep in mind, some external programs (security suites and such) might also try to update Opera for users ... I know that AVG has an update manager, though as I also have the latest version of Opera I can't say if it would try to update Presto or not. ...
One of the two unsought-Opera-install user comments back in July seems to have involved this behavior by Vipre's software updater, as well. Only, in that case, it appears to have installed Opera "out of the blue" onto a user's system that had no Opera installation of any sort on it before. The other somewhat similar comment never developed enough clear feedback to figure out what was going on.
The difference with these current cases is that they all involve existing Presto Opera installations being suddenly "updated", replaced, or over-written by Opera 24 or 25 while the Opera internal options were set to "do not check for updates".
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A Former User last edited by
The difference with these current cases is that...
The resemblance, Black.
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blackbird71 last edited by
The difference with these current cases is that...
The resemblance, Black.
Actually, it is a "difference"... the cases in July didn't involve pre-existant Presto installations before Opera was push-installed, whereas all 4 of the current cases do.
