What percentage of people are adapting well to the new Opera?

Deleted User

Deleted User

I guess I'll check back with version 33 and see if it boasts any improvement.

Why bother? Your mind is closed (and already made up) so you'll be happier with another browser. So... see you back at version 33 (but my guess is: far before that number! LOL).

idonno

idonno

I've used Opera non stop for years (before Windows 98) and then there was the upgrade to a Chrome look alike. I tried to continue using V12 but on Windows 8.1 it would lock up chronic on my slow line.

So sadly now, FF gets my vote. I've got speed dial, Adblock etc etc and it works just about fine ... just wish it would open tabs like I like them to be opened. Biggest thing I do miss is the old bookmark side bar. The problem I find is that I really did like the old customisation of Opera. I do have Opera on my system but it very rarely gets opened since it failed to upgrade last time around. It was good while it lasted. Yes, the world has moved on.... me too

anunnaki2

anunnaki2

Finally dumped it:
https://forums.opera.com/topic/3778/dumped-opera-for-good-now-and-replaced-with-cyberfox/1

alloyt00

alloyt00

I guess I'll check back with version 33 and see if it boasts any improvement.

Why bother? Your mind is closed (and already made up)

Closed to what exactly?

There's nothing in Opera 15+ to be closed to. All the features previously pioneered by Opera are gone or degraded.

What exactly is the value proposition of Opera (With extensions) over Chrome with extensions?

Neither has the features or flexibility I actually want (or use).

so you'll be happier with another browser. So... see you back at version 33 (but my guess is: far before that number! LOL).

Frankly Opera 15+ is much like Windows 8, some really great under the skin improvements marred by a fatally flawed (and ugly) UI.

A Former User

What exactly is the value proposition of Opera (With extensions) over Chrome with extensions?

That was already answered in the first page of this topic.

Deleted User

Deleted User

Rafael: they're not really interested in facts so don't confuse them any further (LOL). Seriously, they're just ragging.

demonlord99

demonlord99

I just want the opera note back. I can live without bookmarks icon but not the "Note". Evernote is not for me and I tried it with all heart then tried all other possible options but not the same. please just give a time frame like 6 months or 1 year but plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz don't remove it permanently. plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I am crying.

Deleted User

Deleted User

There's an extension for notes. Stop crying.

uggrak

uggrak

I am trying to adapt but I am not really feeling it sadly.
And can you three, I think who you are, stop saying there are extensions for everything and this and that.
That never works as good as it built in, as long as they can not really "extend it in to the program".

Why would I want several different add-ons/extensions to do small but important things with there own little icon I have to click on every time?

This opera Next does not even work correct here in the forums, it does not load the avatars.

I have spent the entire day, well, off and on, to find a good replacement for 12.17, but not really feeling anything. Now I am trying to get this latest Opera Next to usable performance, but well, not really getting there.

To me it feels like the people working on it now are not at all the same people that made the old so good and have no idea what really made it so.

Deleted User

Deleted User

I don't care what it feels like to you. The company is doing very well whether you like it or not. The most popular browsers (i.e. Chrome, Firefox) use a myriad of extensions to add functionality to their browsers according to what individuals want. Opera is now doing the same. There is an extension for Notes. If your Notes are so precious to you, use the extension. Otherwise... find another browser or do without.

uggrak

uggrak

I was not talking to you about how it feels like, but the starter as he asked how many are adapting well.

If they are doing very well maybe they can hire some more programmers then to speed up the development?

What I and I guess many others are complaining about and that I don't understand why they praisers of the new opera are so furiously defending is that Opera used to have (yes in another engine) a whole bunch of amazing features.

What I cant understand is that when you update your program you just stop supporting what you had and throw the users a underdeveloped beta of your new program. Normally I would expect a developer to keep supporting the old until the new was as good as that.

The other browsers never had the functions in it in the first place anyway.

biggerabalone

biggerabalone

I don't care what it feels like to you. The company is doing very well whether you like it or not.

it's a little early to say their doing pretty well. bloomberg reports they had a first quarter loss in 2014.

biggerabalone

biggerabalone

lem729

please don't refer to presto as old. in linux its still the new:) yet it lacks polish on mine (beside tabs there is a opera icon that is 1/4 cut off. its always been that way).

berng

berng

I don't care what it feels like to you. The company is doing very well whether you like it or not.

it's a little early to say their doing pretty well. bloomberg reports they had a first quarter loss in 2014.

Link?

Their financial report for 1Q2014 shows a profit. Their revenue increased 40% over 1Q2013.

http://www.operasoftware.com/company/investors/finance

http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/earnings/earnings.asp?ticker=OPERA:NO

biggerabalone

biggerabalone

And how about the Opera Mail stand alone program. Does it work better in any way than Mail in Opera 12?

They are the basically the same thing. Opera Mail is just Opera 12 without the browser part.

so is opera mail still going to be developed (updated for new os etc, security holes patched etc)? or is it abandonware? i still prefer it over thunderbird but suspect it is heading the path of the presto.

biggerabalone

biggerabalone

I don't care what it feels like to you. The company is doing very well whether you like it or not.
it's a little early to say their doing pretty well. bloomberg reports they had a first quarter loss in 2014.
Link?
Their 1Q2014 shows a profit. Their revenue increased 40% over 1Q2013.
http://www.operasoftware.com/company/investors/finance

http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/earnings/earnings.asp?ticker=OPERA:NO

berng

berng

 I don't care what it feels like to you. The company is doing very well whether you like it or not.
it's a little early to say their doing pretty well. bloomberg reports they had a first quarter loss in 2014.
Link?
Their 1Q2014 shows a profit. Their revenue increased 40% over 1Q2013.
http://www.operasoftware.com/company/investors/finance
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/earnings/earnings.asp?ticker=OPERA:NO

Your link shows a .12 per share PROFIT.

biggerabalone

biggerabalone

you might want to check the revenue projections here also. and gross profits ... as compared to 2010. and note that when opera announced that it was going webkit or blink or whatever, it was very recent, so investors reacted positively in anticipation. we need to wait to see if this upward trend in stock price was an anomaly or not.

http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/financials/financials.asp?ticker=OPERA:NO

biggerabalone

biggerabalone

 I don't care what it feels like to you. The company is doing very well whether you like it or not.
it's a little early to say their doing pretty well. bloomberg reports they had a first quarter loss in 2014.
Link?
Their 1Q2014 shows a profit. Their revenue increased 40% over 1Q2013.
http://www.operasoftware.com/company/investors/finance
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/earnings/earnings.asp?ticker=OPERA:NO

-0.12. not +. hover on the link for interpretation.

berng

berng

  I don't care what it feels like to you. The company is doing very well whether you like it or not.
it's a little early to say their doing pretty well. bloomberg reports they had a first quarter loss in 2014.

Link?
Their 1Q2014 shows a profit. Their revenue increased 40% over 1Q2013.
http://www.operasoftware.com/company/investors/finance
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/earnings/earnings.asp?ticker=OPERA:NO
-0.12. not +. hover on the link for interpretation.

That minus means a negative from the ANALYST ESTIMATES. They have a profit of .12. If there was a loss, then the bar would be pointing pointing downwards from the zero point with the color being red instead of green.