[Compilation]Data Loss After An Update/Upgrade
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A Former User last edited by A Former User
@ledsalesoz said
@vegelund Great attitude. My tabs change constantly,
Apparently, you are a bunch of advanced users.
How is working continuously with unsaved tabs a good plan?It's not the first time in history that software crashes. You must have thought about that contingency.
From a risk management perspective on workflow, you have failed.
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notlocalhorst last edited by
@vegelund It is not about that. Sometimes you just keep tabs open that you will work on later - as a reminder.
It is - at least for me - just super annoying that I have to re-sort all my tabs to the correct workplaces from a backup. Or is there a backup that keeps all tabs on the correct workspaces? Bookmarks are something else and will not help at all if you use tabs as a 2do list/reminder.
And there is no excuse that this still happens nor that this slipped through QA - again. Or that the tab backup from Opera is useless as it seems.
You have to try harder to blame the users for this. It seems you have a different workflow as other users, don't assume everyone works like you. Or you are just trolling.
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A Former User last edited by
For what purpose do users here need to keep a 1000 tabs continuously open? What is on those tabs?
The lack of examples and willingness to elaborate makes me think the browser is being used for illegal activities.
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notlocalhorst last edited by leocg
@vegelund
Why are you arguing what users are doing? That has nothing to do with the issue. The last time I lost all tabs I had just around 40 open and not a single one was used for illegal activities (whatever that should be). Unbelievable.The largest workspaces I use: "youtube" with up to 20 tabs with stuff I might want to see later or again or have more information about whatever I'm watching (like wikipedia, homepages, discogs). Another one I use for buying stuff, all large shops for direct access, sometimes a lot of pages are open when I search for stuff or want to compare it, find the official specs, benchmarks, looking for howtos ... that adds up pretty fast. Overall I guess I had opened 100 tabs before the crashes, maybe sometimes a little bit more but not much. After the 2nd crash I just re-opened the most important ones and it is really annoying to fear that this will happen again.
And before some answers like:
"But You Can Do This With Bookmarks!"Yes, and you don't have to tell me what you think is the best way. I (and many others as it seems) do it differently as you and for them/me this is a more efficient workflow. And: of course I bookmark pages, but having everything you want directly open is much more convenient. Bookmarks are the 2nd level for pages I might need later again, often much later. All tabs are open for "now" and it is easier to find pages that way, at least for me. The open tabs have also a much better visual history for me.
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A Former User last edited by
The largest workspaces I use: "youtube" with up to 20 tabs with stuff I might want to see later or again
Tip: Your YouTube account has a folder and playlist system, including a native 'Watch later' functionality.
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notlocalhorst last edited by
@vegelund your are clearly not getting the reason or advantage of having the tabs open all the time. You can't compare this to bookmarks or the "watch later" list. Not at all.
Nevertheless, Opera is broken and it doesn't matter if you lose 10 or 1000 tabs or if you can use some other technology to mitigate the loss.
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cmspencer last edited by
Same here. Had to restart as Opera would not load pages, just kept spinning. Other browsers were working fine. So, had to close/reopen Opera to resolve, but all my open tabs disappeared. Fortunately History still, surprisingly, works.
New version, v100.0, just seems to have a lot of gimmicks, poorer reliability, and takes more work to do simple things ! -
Cyklonus last edited by Cyklonus
@cmspencer
I keep losing open tabs in my browser. Disabling sync seems to help a bit, but after the last update it also cleared all my tabs.
I wrote to support about two weeks ago. Although they wrote back, but did not say anything helpful. -
notlocalhorst last edited by
I updated to 100.0.4815.54 all tabs survived the forced reboot I had last night.
Happy and still morning drunken I killed Opera with taskmanager: all tabs gone. The one I could get with ctrl shift t where a strange collection and not all as far I could see - maybe I had to go back further but there where already enough useless tabs opened in opera ... not really an option.
So, still not fixed for me.
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rex20d last edited by
crashes still frequent, but at least the tabs are still there and not lost anymore
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marguerid last edited by
@ledsalesoz Thanks a lot! for bringing up Vivaldi. Tested it the last week. It works perfectly and definitely will substitute Opera on my new notebook. Lost my tabs about four times more, and although TabHamster makes it easy to restore them, I won´t waste any more time on a browser with so many bugs and questionable data security.
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fuzi1968 last edited by
In https://forums.opera.com/topic/60169/reopen-multiple-closed-windows-with-many-tabs/12
I've posted a CMD file which helps you to copy all latest session + tabs files away before you start Opera with this helper. I've no experience with Session Buddy. Maybe later.Using Opera since version 6.
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A Former User last edited by
@tinnted Vivaldi has it! And it is more reliable to work, i think
@tinnted said in [Duplicated]Lost tabs in workspace and all open tabs in browser:
@ledsalesoz I did not know vivaldi has workspaces, but I do remember liking their side by side tab layout system which was unique and useful. I will try it as well then. Thanks for the remainder
Edit: Found out that vivaldi has support for portable installation along with option to being able to use it as default browser. -
A Former User last edited by
I have been using Opera One for three months now. For some time now my workspaces have been deleted. I solved it from an image. Today it happened to me once again. I searched for a simple session saving function... but there isn't one. I don't understand how a "Stable" version can have so many bugs and shortcomings. Luckily I also use Vivaldi. Its workspaces function is much better developed and stable. In addition to the fact that they can be customized with their own themes for each workspace. Until Opera does not return to the path of seriousness, I continue with Vivaldi browser. Regards.
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tinnted last edited by tinnted
@vegelund I cant speak for everyone here but I do use bookmarks, workspaces and speed dail groups . And, on top of that I even tried to make opera work by using portable version with backup software taking snapshots of whole software daily but when you are loosing tabs very frequently it becomes a problem you should not have to deal with.
Also, you have never tried to save 20 to 30 tabs at once in bookmarks otherwise you would understand how big of a nuisance that is. And when times comes for you to use them you have to open them all and then change, delete etc the bookmarks induvidually again when you want to close browser. You cant select multiple tabs at once and add them to new folder in bookmarks either, doing induvidually is nightmare. And also clutters the bookmarks.
Edit:Your suggestion for using youtube playlist is not solid either. i think your suggestions are more reliability oriented rather than ease of use oriented. When things get complicated the ease of use plays a big role. By your logic there is no need for workspaces in opera because we can do that with bookmarks.
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tinnted last edited by tinnted
Recently there has been new problem. I am loosing tabs but only in first workspace.
I am not using the browser extensively(not default/main browser) so I dont know if the old problem of loosing all tabs is still a thing. I open daily after my backup of browser folder finishes to check if the browser still has my tabs. I have to check becasue I only store 4 snapshots so if I ever left it unchecked and browser loose tabs then none of the snapshots will be useful. -
xb70 last edited by xb70
The 103.0.4928.16 auto install lost all my personalization! Now I have to uninstall it, install 101.0.4880.58 and then manually download and install the new one and hope for the best, or just stay on 101.0.4880.58, if I want my bookmarks, extensions, etc. Ugh. Is there was way to turn off the automatic installations? So that I can monitor whether people are losing their personalization with each new version, as seems to be the case too often, before manually downloading and installing, if seemingly safe?
In this thread: Is 102.0.4880.70 safe to install in terms of losing user data? it has been explained that the file structure of Opera is the culprit, and 103.0.4928.16 doesn't fix that. Elsewhere it has been suggested that Profile Migration is the problem, or lack thereof, or corrupted migration. One poster suggested installing Chrome to see how it is done properly, the format of the file structure, and possibly editing the Opera supporting file structure to fix that. See the cited thread. Anyone? Help! -
xb70 last edited by
So I am back on 101.0.4843.58 (not 4880) and everything is back, BUT I have a pending install, I see, not of my choice, an auto install, probably to 103....16. Will it have my personalization in it? God knows. I am inclined to manually download and install it, rather than allow the auto install to happen. Maybe it is six of one, and half a dozen of the other. Who knows? Guess I will try it my way. Why did the first auto install lose me all my personalization? Probably all my files are corrupted, as now one else is weighing in on this, so I presume that no one else is losing their personalization.
