I don't trust Google!
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cwizard last edited by
Originally posted by sgunhouse:
Shall we keep this Opera-related, guys? The other discussion would technically belong in Discussions and Debates, over in the Lounge forums.
OK, then how do we turn off the tracking in Opera 15.xx?
I just installed and ran Opera_15.0.1147.148 and it would not connect to the outside world unless I let it first connect to 91.203.49.68 or 72.21.215.232.
Oh, BTW, I also cannot sign on here while using Opera 15, but have to use a different browser.
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ldmartin1959 last edited by
Originally posted by Guest703:
You don't have to worry about Google tracking unless you're doing something illegal, and even then, they're not likely to do anything about it.
The U.S. Supreme Court recently ruled that even one's silence can be used against one as "evidence of guilt". Not worry unless you're doing something illegal?? No, now everything is "evidence" against you: even NOT doing something illegal.Think of the scene in Little Big Man where Custer uses "logic" to prove that no matter what his scout said, Custer was able to twist it into meaning whatever he wanted.
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cwizard last edited by
Originally posted by LDMartin1959:
Originally posted by Guest703:
You don't have to worry about Google tracking unless you're doing something illegal, and even then, they're not likely to do anything about it.
The U.S. Supreme Court recently ruled that even one's silence can be used against one as "evidence of guilt". Not worry unless you're doing something illegal?? No, now everything is "evidence" against you: even NOT doing something illegal.Think of the scene in Little Big Man where Custer uses "logic" to prove that no matter what his scout said, Custer was able to twist it into meaning whatever he wanted.
Off topic, again, but if you are going to make statements like that your should understand the situation that lead to the decision,
"...Because he was "free to leave at that time," [App.14], they did not give him Miranda warnings. The police then asked Salinas questions. And Salinas answered until the police asked him whether the shotgun from his home "would match the shells recovered at the scene of the murder [Id., at 17.] At that point Salinas fell silent..."
http://teapartyorg.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=4301673:Topic:1611349
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spartaa last edited by
do you even realize if your ISP or your Country goverment can do the same? :left:
face it, You have no privacy once you connect to the internet .
in this day, there is no way to untracked unless you make your own internet cable beside official World Wide cabels.
another thing, why picking google? there are bunch USA companies that support that thing. -
ldmartin1959 last edited by
Originally posted by cwizard:
Originally posted by LDMartin1959:
Originally posted by Guest703:
You don't have to worry about Google tracking unless you're doing something illegal, and even then, they're not likely to do anything about it.
The U.S. Supreme Court recently ruled that even one's silence can be used against one as "evidence of guilt". Not worry unless you're doing something illegal?? No, now everything is "evidence" against you: even NOT doing something illegal.Think of the scene in Little Big Man where Custer uses "logic" to prove that no matter what his scout said, Custer was able to twist it into meaning whatever he wanted.
Off topic, again, but if you are going to make statements like that your should understand the situation that lead to the decision,
"...Because he was "free to leave at that time," [App.14], they did not give him Miranda warnings. The police then asked Salinas questions. And Salinas answered until the police asked him whether the shotgun from his home "would match the shells recovered at the scene of the murder [Id., at 17.] At that point Salinas fell silent..."
http://teapartyorg.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=4301673:Topic:1611349
My point is that the idea that if one is doing nothing illegal one has nothing to worry about is foolish, which is NOT off topic but a response to a statement that was made ON TOPIC.
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Deleted User last edited by
Originally posted by Acryion:
This topic is hilarious
Indeed it is. :lol: Anyone who thinks he can be online in this day and age and avoid having his/her privacy compromised is living in the Twilight Zone. We are tracked in a multitude of ways and frankly... who cares? I think we've blown this way out of proportion. As I mentioned, I welcome being served ads that apply directly to me. Sure they want to sell me things. Why not? Do we honestly believe that this ride is for free? If we don't pay for the product, "we" are the product. It makes me laugh when I hear someone say that he won't use Google because he doesn't trust them. What does he think is happening to his privacy and identity when he uses a credit card? when he shows his license or enters his social security number on a job application? There is NO privacy anymore... period. Deal with it.:rolleyes:
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acryion last edited by
Well, unless you have some serious bandwidth and CPU power, you can try setting up TOR and using that. But how paranoid can you get?
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cwizard last edited by
Sad, disturbing and frighting how willingly some people are to give up their privacy or, in this case, are they nothing more than shills for a questionable, at best, product?
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Deleted User last edited by
I understand that one can attempt to "deal" with decreased security and also "resign" and do nothing. The latter is not dealing.
A normal ISP would first have to become interested in what a customer is doing, because they used too much bandwidth, tried to disrupt the network, or a report about abuse was received. They have better things to do that add storage capacity or spend hours spying on everyone. The government can't be bothered to make agreements with small ISPs to get access to the data as they can from big businesses. The would rather make people "pliable" and have them trust their data to Google.
As said above, one can use TOR to increse security, and also use simple encryption on their communication, which indeed can be broken, but, again, the attacking parties would first have a good reason to look into the matter. On Google and the other cloud services, all data is like an open book for the government. They own the data then, and you the user, can only plead for a slightly better privacy policy, and ask ask the govmn't to give some access back to your photos or whatnot. If everyone signed up and fully relied on google et al, the disturbing picture you are trying to convey, would have indeed be true, like a self fulfilling prophecy. Not because you connected to the internet, but because you believed that the goverment, the most powerful bully, can already see everything.
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Deleted User last edited by
Originally posted by cwizard:
Sad, disturbing and frighting how willingly some people are to give up their privacy or, in this case, are they nothing more than shills for a questionable, at best, product?
LOL... you don't get it, do you. It's not a case of "giving up one's privacy" willingly. Your privacy is GONE... fffftttt! There is NOTHING you can do about it. If you think that extensions like Ghostery and Weboftrust and a host of other programs (and lame Do Not Track check lists) will preserve your privacy... Man, you're deluding yourself. We live in an insecure, very public world where privacy is no more. If you are that concerned, cut all your credit cards up, pull the plug on your computer, ask for your dental and medical documents (which you won't receive since they are not your property) etc etc and then realize something: you are STILL very well known and documented and tracked by companies and governments... period. Blaming Google is a joke. They're all compromising your privacy.
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spartaa last edited by
i would suggest Go agent / google agent if to improve more security.
https://code.google.com/p/goagent/its free , but so does like another VPN / anonymity services. :left:
they can see everything .
security with sacrificing privacy.
sounds like a nice dealoops did i say privacy?
i forgot we have no privacy in internet ...
MAHmahMAhMahMah
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cwizard last edited by
Originally posted by leushino:
Originally posted by cwizard:
Sad, disturbing and frighting how willingly some people are to give up their privacy or, in this case, are they nothing more than shills for a questionable, at best, product?
... They're all compromising your privacy.
Ah, so that makes it alright for Opera to do the same? Are you an employee or share holder?
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but after over 1,300 posts you are starting to sound like a shill.shill (sh¹l) Slang. n. 1. One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into participating in a swindle. --shill v. shilled, shill·ing, shills. --intr. 1. To act as a shill. --tr. 1. To act as a shill for (a deceitful enterprise). 2. To lure (a person) into a swindle.
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aleksod last edited by
Originally posted by Guest703:
You don't have to worry about Google tracking
Especially when we have NSA snooping around the intertubes! :lol:
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slplfever last edited by
Are you talking about Google chrome?
Actually chrome is a mess when compared to Opera and Firefox.Google Chrome is created just to market their own products IMO. i don't see any difference although some people saying it is faster.
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stng last edited by
Google Chrome is more likely some kind of a "legalized" malware that was ordered by the NSA, CIA and other 'good guys'.
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