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    • A Former User
      A Former User last edited by leocg

      Example: https://twitter.com/AmosDonalo/status/1115643641568157700

      I've verified this on latest Opera 60 Portable.

      I'm on Windows 8.1 x64.

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      • leocg
        leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

        Video played fine here. I'm on Windows 10.

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        • A Former User
          A Former User last edited by

          Maybe it has something to do with Windows 8.1.

          The video works fine in Chrome. I've verified this with latest Portable version.

          This is a direct link to video:
          https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1115643600719818757/pu/vid/640x352/BEEPEYSFlB9xNTDZ.mp4

          It plays fine even in very old Chrome 50. Doesn't play in Opera.

          How do I debug the issue?

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          • A Former User
            A Former User @Guest last edited by A Former User

            @liandri - @leocg - broke out windows 8.1 64 bit laptop and the video is broke in - opera portable 64 bit v58.0.3135.127

            Also when ya X close it - on the same page the 5th video is broke..

            chrome plays both..

            win 10 plays both on opera and chrome..

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            • leocg
              leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

              Does it play in other Chromium based browsers?

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              • A Former User
                A Former User @leocg last edited by

                @leocg i d/l slimjet 64 bit portable to that win 8.1 laptop and it plays both vids..

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                • A Former User
                  A Former User @leocg last edited by

                  @leocg I was going to try Chromium Portable itself, but Sourceforge is down right now. Will check it later.

                  I've tried Steam browser and it has the same problem.

                  It seems to me like this has something to do with new codecs (possibly used on some new devices) - such broken videos started appearing only recently. But I didn't find any good information about it. Everything is fine on https://www.youtube.com/html5 for me.

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                  • A Former User
                    A Former User @leocg last edited by

                    @leocg I've tried ChromiumPortable_75.0.3738.0_Dev_32_64_bit.paf. It does not work.

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                    • leocg
                      leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                      Maybe a Chromium issue with Windows 8.1 then.

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                      • A Former User
                        A Former User @leocg last edited by A Former User

                        @leocg Ok, so that's it? Shouldn't Opera devs take care of it? As a user I should not care what kind of 3rd party piece of software Opera uses.

                        Opera devs could either issue a bug report to Chromium or solve the issue themselves (seeing Chrome is not affected). Or should I contact Chromium project and hope they solve this?

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                        • A Former User
                          A Former User last edited by

                          Might this be an issue with 'portable' versions of opera?

                          I'm using opera 60 on windows 7 and that video plays fine.

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                          • leocg
                            leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                            They will probably read this but you can make a bug report.
                            Don't forget to post the bug ID here for reference.

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                            • leocg
                              leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                              Portable installation is no different than regular ones.

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                              • A Former User
                                A Former User @Guest last edited by

                                @piwygin I've also checked on Windows 7 VM and it plays fine. The problem seems only related to how browsers output video content under Windows 8.1. Which is rather strange because it's only true for some browsers and my experience says Windows 8.1 is equal to Windows 7 in enough number of departments that should guarantee the same level of features support when it comes to basic software like web browsers.

                                Portable versions are totally fine, I only use them to isolate from anything that could be installed in local profile for the browser and could potentially change its behavior, e.g. plugins or extensions.

                                @leocg thanks for your replies.

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                                • A Former User
                                  A Former User last edited by

                                  https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=951705

                                  Opera problem. Not related to Chromium.

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                                  • burnout426
                                    burnout426 Volunteer @Guest last edited by burnout426

                                    @liandri said in Some videos on Twitter do not work:

                                    This is a direct link to video:
                                    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1115643600719818757/pu/vid/640x352/BEEPEYSFlB9xNTDZ.mp4

                                    Opera uses the Windows Media Foundation (as opposed to ffmpeg like Chrome) to play h.264 videos like this. For it to work in Opera, it needs to work in Windows Media Player first and be supported by WMF (a DirectShow plug-in on Windows won't do it). Then it should work.

                                    If you have an "N" version of Windows 8, you might need https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2929699/media-feature-pack-for-windows-8-1-n-and-windows-8-1-kn-editions-april.

                                    However, I don't know Opera's status of support for Windows 8.1 and WMF. Maybe it only works for Win7 and Win10.

                                    Test to see if the video works in Windows Media Player first.

                                    You could also test in Vivaldi for another comparison. You just can't compare with Chrome or Chromium built with "all codecs".

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                                    • A Former User
                                      A Former User @burnout426 last edited by A Former User

                                      @burnout426 My version of Windows 8.1 is not N. It's Corporate.

                                      If I try to install Media Feature Pack you linked, I get error "This update is not applicable to your computer".

                                      The video file plays fine in Windows Media Player. However I have LAVFilters installed. It doesn't play without that.

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                                      • burnout426
                                        burnout426 Volunteer @Guest last edited by burnout426

                                        @liandri said in Some videos on Twitter do not work:

                                        The video file plays fine in Windows Media Player. However I have LAVFilters installed. It doesn't play without that

                                        Some Opera users of Windows 10 Enterprise have problems like this where h.264 is not supported by default and there's no media pack for it. You could be experiencing the same issue with Win8. Maybe there's a package in "Programs and Features" under Windows setup that's not installed by default. Or, you might have to search for a way to add a Windows Media Foundation h.264 transform to your Windows 8 Enterprise. Next chance I get, I'll test in Opera with regular Windows 8.1 to see how things works for me.

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                                        • A Former User
                                          A Former User @burnout426 last edited by

                                          @burnout426 From what I see, there is no option for that in "Programs and Features". There is only an option for Windows Media Player itself, I guess it includes all the relevant codecs but it was already installed from the start.

                                          Is there a serious enough reason for Opera to not use the same codecs Chrome uses?

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                                          • burnout426
                                            burnout426 Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                                            @liandri said in Some videos on Twitter do not work:

                                            Is there a serious enough reason for Opera to not use the same codecs Chrome uses?

                                            Yes. Licensing issues prevent Opera from using ffmpeg for proprietary codecs.

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