Bug/WARNING: Opera VPN server location reported is ON WRONG CONTINENT!?
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mrelvey last edited by mrelvey
OK, this is REALLY CONFUSING/MESSED UP - - and explained at the end!
) Currently, Opera (Version:56.0.3051.52
Opera is up to date
Update stream:Stable
System:Mac OS X 10.11.6 64-bit)
with the VPN on, and "Bypass VPN for default search engines" OFF,
google reports at www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=where+am+i+ip :Geolocation data from IP2Location (Product: DB6, updated on 2018-11-1)
IP Address Country City
66.249.69.90This is really really strange - this is NOT my real IP address or my VPN IP address.
...OK I UNDERSTAND! Google is showing me CACHED CONTENT - hence the info is the IP of google's web spider. -
mrelvey last edited by
@leocg said in Bug/WARNING: Opera VPN server location reported is ON WRONG CONTINENT!?:
I see that in that post from 10 months ago, a staff member says "We're working on a proper fix".
https://www.iplocation.net shows some useful-to-such-a-fix info:
Geolocation data from IP2Location (Product: DB6, updated on 2018-11-1)
IP Address Country Region City
77.111.246.196 United States Virginia Ashburn
ISP Organization Latitude Longitude
Opera Software AS Not Available 39.0437 -77.4875Geolocation data from ipinfo.io (Product: API, real-time)
IP Address Country Region City
77.111.246.196 Norway Not Available Not Available
ISP Organization Latitude Longitude
HERN Labs AB HERN Labs AB 59.9500 10.7500Geolocation data from EurekAPI (Product: API, real-time)
IP Address Country Region City
77.111.246.196 Europe - -
ISP Organization Latitude Longitude
Opera Software AS Opera Software AS 47.0 8.0Geolocation data from DB-IP (Product: Full, 2018-11-2)
IP Address Country Region City
77.111.246.196 Sweden Östergötland Linköping (Innerstaden)
ISP Organization Latitude Longitude
HERN Labs AB Hernlabs 58.4116 15.6268So, IP2Location gets it right, as does EurekAPI , but the other two get it wrong. Clearly, a fix would be for Opera (or perhaps a user?) to contact the other two! Links on the actual page... Hello, https://disqus.com/by/michaowicki/? @michaowicki ? Looks like @Michał left Opera very shortly after posting that. Any idea who's working on it, @leocg? Good to pass that info on in case the right person(s) don't have it/forgot about this bug.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@mrelvey said in Bug/WARNING: Opera VPN server location reported is ON WRONG CONTINENT!?:
I see that in that post from 10 months ago, a staff member says "We're working on a proper fix".
It's already there and it's called 'bypass VPN for default search engines'.
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mrelvey last edited by mrelvey
Can someone with the info (from Opera?) on all the IPs please post it here and send it here? : https://ipinfo.io/contact
[edit:]: and here: db-ip.com/report/ ?
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mrelvey last edited by mrelvey
@leocg IMO, that's a very partial fix. But thanks for the quick reply. The roadblock that I keep hitting, and this started pretty recently, is that multiple websites I have logins to are freaking out and either making it very hard to log in, or even straight up LOCKING MY ACCOUNTS because of where they think I'm logging in from. I probably should have mentioned that in my OP! (Can't now; it's not editable. Only recent posts are editable, it seems.)
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
The fix is to solve the problem with search engines giving results in a language that the user doesn't speak, making them unuseful for the users.
The problem of sites guessing wrongly from where you are connecting from is difficult for them to fix because it's not an Opera or VPN issue.
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mrelvey last edited by
@leocg It wasn't a problem 'till the switch to the new VPN system/infrastructure - to IPs that aren't even on the same continent as the IP registry they're from. So are you willing to send the info to the 2 providers I mentioned that have your IPs geolocated wrong or not?
I think I've explained why, but if it's not clear how it would help with the problem I'm reporting, let me know. -
leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
That's the point, I don't see how it would help the sites to guess your location correctly.
Well, on the first site the geolocation is correct while in the second it isn't.
Now, seeing that only the third section of the IP changes when you change the region, I think that there is a chance that they may be using some virtual IP.
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mrelvey last edited by mrelvey
@leocg said in Bug/WARNING: Opera VPN server location reported is ON WRONG CONTINENT!?:
That's the point, I don't see how it would help the sites to guess your location correctly.
I never said anything about helping the sites to guess my location correctly (or at least didn't intend to.) (I also never said anything about problems with search engines, other than mentioning google in passing, and please ignore that mention going forward; the workaround for search engines works. It's a kluge, in the worst sense, but it is a working workaround, for search engines only.)
I DID say something about helping the sites to guess my continent or part of the world correctly!
So, can
Well, on the first site the geolocation is correct while in the second it isn't.
Sorry? What are you talking about? Not so. See below for the sites I mentioned; I'm not in Paris, the Ukrain, or Norway. So the first and second and third sites are ALL NOT correct.
@mrelvey said in Bug/WARNING: Opera VPN server location reported is ON WRONG CONTINENT!?:
*https://www.where-am-i.co/my-ip-location says I'm in Paris,
https://www.google.com thinks I'm in the Ukraine, etc.
LastPass thinks I'm in NORWAY. (All three while my server is 77.111.246.20)
I see the network - 77.111.246.0/24 is assigned to HernLabs of Sweden.@leocg also said:
Now, seeing that only the third section of the IP changes when you change the region, I think that there is a chance that they may be using some virtual IP.
Sorry? Again, what are you talking about? Again, not so. All the IPs start "77.111.246." Are you talking about the FOURTH section of the IP, which, indeed, changes?
Again, the entire /24 network - in which ALL the assigned VPN IPs can be found (AFAIK), whether nominally for the Americas, Europe or Asia - 77.111.246.0/24 - is assigned to HernLabs of Sweden, and is reachable ONLY via HernLabs of Sweden. Proof:
Opera actually owns an ASN - https://bgpview.io/asn/39832 - but these VPN IPs are NOT assigned to that ASN (proof, and thus are not reachable through it. Maybe the terms I'm using are over your head. If you aren't familiar with ASNs, BGP, /24, etc, please bring this to the attention of someone at Opera who IS familiar!
At Opera.com, that is netops@ and/or peering@ !
And at hernlabs.se, that is netops@ !So I ask: Is Opera willing to send the info to the 2 providers I mentioned that have it VPN IPs all geolocated wrong or not? Alternately, is it willing to (and able to) put them in its ASN?
I think I've explained why, but if it's STILL not clear that Opera has work to do to fix VPN geolocation problems, or how what I'm asking for would help with the problem I'm reporting (which is that the IPs are all in the same /24, which is only reachable via Sweden, let me know.Update: Hold on... Opera OWNS Hern Labs. So that changes things a bit. Will edit above if I still can. Otherwise, see any newer posts from me first.
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mrelvey last edited by
Update continued:
OK, so slightly strangely, There are no BGP announcements for the parent network - 77.111.244.0/22. It announces each of the /24's in the /22 separately. Not efficient, but common.
Ok, so this (Opera owns HERN) changes nothing major directly.
But it's clear that OPERA owns IPs IN THE US, including: 37.228.104.0/21, 141.0.12.0/22, 185.26.180.0/22. Proof. It COULD use one to host the Americas VPN IP (exit node). How much work that would be is hard to say from here, but Opera's, for example, 10 Gbps peering connection in DC (Ashburn) suggests not much.
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A Former User last edited by
I travel back and forth from the US to the Caribbean, why do i need a VPN that say i'm Ukraine or Switzerland have the time? Yes I changed the setting for search engines.
Any further resolution to this? It's really easy to just say:
"Opera VPN, works just fine it's, all the other websites who have it wrong."
If that's the case then please at least acknowledge that this is inadequate. -
leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
The main purpose of a (free, public) VPN is to allow the user to hide its IP address and Opera VPN does it. But let's keep it aside for now.
Your location is an information that is not usually send by the browser and, I would say, also not by the VPN server. So it's up to the site to try to figure out from where the IP you are using is coming from.
The site can do it by checking the IP range, or by asking a third party service, etc, and all of them is subject to give wrong results. -
A Former User last edited by
I have tried using https://www.where-am-i.me/ and the result is the same. You can find more here http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2018/01/opera-50-introduces-anti-bitcoin-mining-tool/#comment-3693794894
