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    • leocg
      leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

      8Gb of RAM on 2133MHz, SSD, 2 cores 4 threads 3.5GHz - not enough for Opera????

      I have an Intel I5-4590 and 8GB Ram. I've just opened Opera with around 30 tabs and had no problems at all. And I don't think you should have with your configuration.

      Also extended lazy load is working correctly: focused tab loads and then other start loading progressively.

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      • demitsuri
        demitsuri last edited by

        Also extended lazy load is working correctly: focused tab loads and then other start loading progressively.

        Set "ext lazy" to disabled. Then just 1 tab is active after start. PC and opera responsive after 3-7 sec., like opera not started.

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        • Deleted User
          Deleted User last edited by

          8Gb of RAM on 2133MHz, SSD, 2 cores 4 threads 3.5GHz - not enough for Opera????

          I have an Intel I5-4590 and 8GB Ram. I've just opened Opera with around 30 tabs and had no problems at all. And I don't think you should have with your configuration.
          Also extended lazy load is working correctly: focused tab loads and then other start loading progressively.

          you cannot just say that you dont have problem so everyone work well too.
          Look like some of your programmers just got a better pc, so they say to themselves "a little more ram do not hurt".
          I/we want exactly one tab being load while opening ,when we want to load other tabs we will do it ourselves

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          • leocg
            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

            ike some of your programmers just got a better pc

            Yours? I don't have any. 🙂

            when we want to load other tabs we will do it ourselves

            So why keep those tabs opened? If I have some tabs opened when I start a browser is because I - and I believe also 99% of people - want them to load as soon as possible at browser start up.

            If not then I would bookmark those pages or get them from history.

            so they say to themselves "a little more ram do not hurt"

            And what if the problem is not the pages being loaded? Unless you are talking about very heavy ones, web pages loading should not cause any major issue.

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            • demitsuri
              demitsuri last edited by

              If not then I would bookmark those pages or get them from history.

              40 tabs to bookmarks? I have about 30 folders in bookmarks, and about 200-300 links.

              Store tabs to bookmarks, and then open them back - Usability => 0.

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              • leocg
                leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                40 tabs to bookmarks?

                I have seen people saying they have hundreds of bookmarks. Some may have thousands.

                I have about 30 folders in bookmarks, and about 200-300 links.

                See. 🙂

                Store tabs to bookmarks, and then open them back - Usability => 0.

                Well, it's just one possible way to handle the problem you've created, there may be others. 🙂

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                • demitsuri
                  demitsuri last edited by

                  Well, it's just one possible way to handle the problem you've created, there may be others. 🙂

                  I created. Of cource.
                  Thank for your "help".

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                  • leocg
                    leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                    I created. Of cource

                    Yes, you. You were the one who decided that you had to have a bunch of tabs opened all the time.

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                    • pavol-rozboril
                      pavol-rozboril last edited by

                      I have the same problem from opera version 46.

                      I open by deafult three tabs, opera starts wery slow and lag a lot then. Every new tab take about 3-6 secont to event show starts to loading. Browsing is wery slow.

                      All Other browsers works correctly (Chrome, Firefox, Vivaldy).

                      Intel Xeon E3 1270; 8Gb Ram, SSD

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                      • Deleted User
                        Deleted User last edited by

                        I created. Of cource

                        Yes, you. You were the one who decided that you had to have a bunch of tabs opened all the time.

                        when did you become a total jerk? could you simply say "because some other browsers have similar feature so we decide to make a different by remove the feature that other browsers copied from own browser"

                        so please bring back lazy load for a few months, until edge is stable, firefox a bit better, and we have time to leave

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                        • leocg
                          leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                          could you simply say "because some other browsers have similar feature so we decide to make a different by remove the feature that other browsers copied from own browser"

                          I don't make Opera nor work for them so I couldn't say such affirmation. 🙂

                          so please bring back lazy load for a few months, until edge is stable, firefox a bit better, and we have time to leave

                          There should be a few requests on it in Suggestions Box already, you can show your support there.

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                          • A Former User
                            A Former User last edited by

                            How to make Opera 46 not to load all tabs to memory by default?

                            Tiny Suspender - it preserves the icons while suspended

                            Another alternative:

                            Install 'Download Chrome Extension'
                            https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/download-chrome-extension-9

                            Install 'The Great Suspender'
                            https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/the-great-suspender/klbibkeccnjlkjkiokjodocebajanakg

                            New tabs created after the install will be suspended automatically

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                            • Deleted User
                              Deleted User last edited by

                              Okay, so this is the problem I'm having. But judging by leocg's tone in this thread, no one cares (other than the apparent few that have encountered the problem) or thinks it deserves attention. Installing third party tools to fix problems in my browser isn't a viable option for me. I guess I'll go back to Google Chrome until v47.

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                              • leocg
                                leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                Okay, so this is the problem I'm having

                                What problem? Loading opened tabs is the expected behavior of a browser so I don't see a problem with it at all.

                                If opening pages are causing issues, it has nothing to do with the existence of the 'extended lazy loading' flag and should be discussed in a separated topic.

                                Installing third party tools to fix problems in my browser isn't a viable option for me.

                                You wouldn't be doing it to solve a problem but to add a feature.

                                I guess I'll go back to Google Chrome until v47.

                                Opera 47 will not bring back the 'extend lazy loading' flag, Opera 48 neither.

                                Like I said before, anyone can request a option to not load background tabs on startup in Suggestions Box.

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                                • Deleted User
                                  Deleted User last edited by

                                  Well, let me put it this way. I run multiple tabs at once on my browser ... like 10 of them. I had my browser set to load a single tab when I continue where I left off - the tab that comes up is the only one that loads. Background tabs never loaded unless I went to them. I loved this feature. But now my browser is loading all the tabs simultaneously. This indicates that there has been a change in the way the tab feature works. Unless you're telling me that Opera was never intended to work the way I have been using it, which I don't think is the case. Why has this option been removed? Or why is it not working?

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                                  • leocg
                                    leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                    Why has this option been removed?

                                    It wasn't really removed because it wasn't really implemented. It was just an experiment that has ended and like the warning in opera://flags says:

                                    "These experimental features may change, break, or disappear at any time."

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                                    • Deleted User
                                      Deleted User last edited by

                                      Seriously? That feature was an experiment? For how many years? You know what, never mind. It's a standard feature in all other browsers, I fail to understand why it would not occur to Opera devs to make it available, so I won't beat a dead horse. Thank you for your responses, I appreciate it.

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                                      • leocg
                                        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                        That feature was an experiment?

                                        Everything in opera://flags is a experiment and either can be turned into something regular or just be removed.

                                        In fact the default behavior of the extend lazy loading flag was the current one but some people used to disable it so background tabs wouldn't run until become active.

                                        For how many years?

                                        Years? I don't remember it had been running for so long. At least as an Opera flag.

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                                        • Deleted User
                                          Deleted User last edited by

                                          I have been using Opera that way from the moment I installed it. I do that on any browser I use. Which is why I'm kinda confused. I used Opera for at least a year before I heard of Opera flags and experiment settings, which I came across while trying to figure out how to retain my settings. Trust me, if that feature had not been available on Opera, I would not be here now because it wouldn't have lasted a day on any of my machines.

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                                          • Deleted User
                                            Deleted User last edited by

                                            Okay, so I've just found out the "extended lazy session" not working anymore.
                                            It violates the main usability principle: the application needs to adapt, not the user.
                                            I hate when it loads all the inactive tabs I don't need at this particular moment and clogs the RAM. Looks like shit. I have been using the Opera since 2004, I didn't quit it when they ruined Presto, but now... I guess, that's another reason to stop using Opera. I don't want to upgrade the system just to have the application working properly. Neither do I want to adapt to the rules it dictates.
                                            Guys, don't feed this local jerk leocg who knows nothing about the usability and psychology of verbal communication, although he/she speaks a lot.

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