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    • A Former User
      A Former User last edited by

      Each?
      Both of my most used.

      Well, it seems I can take it that no harm will come if I deny. Links in the messages do work anyway; though it doesn't seem to appear crystal clear what the bar exactly wants, I won't remember logins anyway so there'll be no "one click" I guess.

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      • A Former User
        A Former User last edited by

        Not every one...

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        • zalex108
          zalex108 last edited by

          If I'm not wrong, the bar message it's to use the mail service as a default mail every time you click an email address on any contact option on any website, not sure if then appears a another message to enable also desktop notifications on new mails once you accept.

          "You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you". ยท Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

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          • A Former User
            A Former User last edited by

            What are those notifications some websites are always asking to send to me? It's usually in Firefox (more browsing), but I guess it might be elsewhere as well.


            That was first!
            A new task tab of the same program or application seems to have always appeared next to its other ones - regardless of the actual "timetable", right? Now in my Firefox, I'm having a new window task separated by a document one. Funny! Is it? :yikes:

            @davehawley
            Well the 52esr offer appeared at last -- I had checked several times since - was nothing.
            It didn't upgrade though yet. Maybe because of a browser crash. I seem to remember a similar incident with updating: as I remember, it updated next time... Ah! yes, I clicked the offer; but it seems the Fox couldn't handle itself: it seems to tend to crash after prolonged sessions.

            PS: I know it was in another thread, but I reckoned to do with one and the same post, especially for the thread is funny - and related to almost anything! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

            PS-PSSS: Yikes! The :yikes: smilie seems to have been stolen! O.O
            Report to the authorities immediately! ๐Ÿ’ฃ I need NATO cruisers deployed AT ONCE! :chef:

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            • A Former User
              A Former User last edited by

              There's my thread "Internet Connection", but it got closed...

              Should I open a new one or ask Leo to open that one back?
              @leocg

              For now, funny using Turbo.
              The other day I "was" in another Russian city far-far away, now I happened to appear in Bahrain :beard: Stest'17.05.07 :party:

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              • leocg
                leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                Should I open a new one or ask Leo to open that one back?

                Better open a new one and try to keep it active.

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                • A Former User
                  A Former User last edited by

                  Should I open a new one or ask Leo to open that one back?

                  Better open a new one and try to keep it active.

                  What's the matter with that "activeness" of yours?
                  There are threads that may be dormant for a while... The matter of the fact that we have on our hands is that there is no very good search to get them by other users. For that, one could make a Guide thread to guide others what we have in the Lounge, for instance.
                  I'll probably start a thread about threads and moderation in Feedback๐Ÿ˜›

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                  • leocg
                    leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                    What's the matter with that "activeness" of yours?

                    Replying to old topics is not exactly something well seen in many forums since it usually only brings confusion, with people reviving discussions that should already be buried, solutions that don't work anymore being brought to the top and so on.

                    There use to be a somewhat universal rule for replying inn topics that says something like 'If the last reply is more than a week old, think twice before posting. If it is more than a month old, make sure that your reply is really relevant. And if the last reply is more than 3 months old, maybe it's better not to post.'

                    The times may not be those exactly but you can get the point.

                    There are threads that may be dormant for a while

                    Yep, but maybe not for so long. If a topic is inactive then it means that it's probably not needed anymore.

                    Also, in a tech forum it may be kinda unhelpful to keep old topics alive as the causes and solutions for problems may not be the same as now.

                    The matter of the fact that we have on our hands is that there is no very good search to get them by other users

                    This is true, forum search system is far from being good.

                    Anyway, it's always better for the user to reply to a more recent topic or even create a new one than reviving an old discussion.

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                    • blackbird71
                      blackbird71 last edited by

                      The term 'necro-posting' was created to describe users posting to ancient threads. Most often it occurs when the last previous post date was similar to the current date but a year or two prior. Sometimes it happens when a poster simply fails to note the posting dates involved in the thread. In any case, it generally seeds confusion for everyone involved, since the participants of the old thread have all moved on and, as @leocg notes, the subject or technical material relevance has usually gone stale. Another problem with old threads is that all too often, they grow so long as to be almost useless for a new-arriving user - way too much past material to read, with much of it outdated and irrelevant.

                      While there are exceptions, a truly legitimate long-running thread is a rarity. My own personal belief is that a forum should automatically close a thread (but leave it in place) after a 6-to-12-month dormant period. A new poster then would need to start a new thread in the current time space if he had a similar issue, though it would be fine to reference an older, closed thread.

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                      • leocg
                        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                        My own personal belief is that a forum should automatically close a thread (but leave it in place) after a 6-to-12-month dormant period

                        Yep, this is my thought too.

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                        • A Former User
                          A Former User last edited by

                          Replying to old topics is not exactly something well seen in many forums since it usually only brings confusion, with people reviving discussions that should already be buried, solutions that don't work anymore being brought to the top and so on.

                          1. There's a difference between tech forums and the Lounge.
                          2. I do not usually create one day topics. I see through to have it permanent. That's how they were meant.
                            Well, some of my old topics may contain some outdated OR incorrect information, OR I might regret my Engrish there*;)* Thus I won't defend such closing.
                            BUT - there are others that perfectly fine. Think of them as Immortals from clan McLounge*:P*
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                          • A Former User
                            A Former User last edited by

                            Yep, but maybe not for so long. If a topic is inactive then it means that it's probably not needed anymore.

                            No, I think it means the Forums need a better search! ๐Ÿ˜•

                            And that does include the tech forums this time! ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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                            • A Former User
                              A Former User last edited by

                              Also, in a tech forum it may be kinda unhelpful to keep old topics alive as the causes and solutions for problems may not be the same as now.

                              As it usually is true.
                              STILL - there do happen to be more longlasting threads there as well! :sherlock:

                              I think the approach should be individual. Providing we DO have a good search!..

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                              • A Former User
                                A Former User last edited by

                                Anyway, it's always better for the user to reply to a more recent topic or even create a new one than reviving an old discussion.

                                It depends.

                                1. The old thread might contain some interesting information that might get lost if the thread's discarded.
                                2. There are threads that are created one for all. And it no way will be wise to have a dozen of "See this picture I share today!" instead of one "Share a picture", or a hundred of "My Weather Today" instead of one "What is your Weather?":)
                                3. A discussion might sink or appear inactive either by chance or due to the lack of immediate answer (followed by some other activity that buried the thread).

                                Search is needed.
                                This is the bottomline! :bandit:

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                                • A Former User
                                  A Former User last edited by

                                  My own personal belief is that a forum should automatically close a thread (but leave it in place) after a 6-to-12-month dormant period

                                  Yep, this is my thought too.

                                  It is about difference for the Lounge.

                                  I wouldn't agree with a half-year term. A year at least: there are circumstances in people's lives!
                                  However, there is another good reason TO close a thread.
                                  O'k, I'll list all the three I can think of now:

                                  1. the thread has either incorrect info in the OP or lots of incorrect info elsewhere there, OR the info in question is outdated or the problem solved ultimately;
                                  2. the thread has got TOO long and its OP dates way too back, so the course of action is to flag or mark this thread in a way to allow the author or a keen "manager" to open a continuation with linking to the old thread - for reference or otherwise;
                                  3. the thread has a number of technically hardly manageable pages: like in "Share a Picture" someone has broken the rule and posted some heavy or multiple stuff - just for instance; this instance though, if the thread does not fall under any other criteria for closure, it may be adviseable just to clear the mess IN it... or it can still be closed if considered heavy, right, and the author (or 'manager') has revised the rules or restrictions holding it appropriate.

                                  It'd be better if we had a way of communication other than public posting here.
                                  I mentioned a way to find me on Facebook earlier. Also, I dropped my email to a moderator or two while reporting things, quite earlier as well.
                                  We do not have any private messaging here any more, so please consider the options.

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                                  • leocg
                                    leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                    There's a difference between tech forums and the Lounge.

                                    The Lounge is on a tech forum. However, because of Lounge's special characteristics, its inactive topics take more time to be closed than in the other forums.
                                    But they will be closed at some point.

                                    I do not usually create one day topics. I see through to have it permanent

                                    Topics are permanent while they are needed. Even in the Lounge it may be problematic bringing back old discussions from years ago.

                                    No, I think it means the Forums need a better search!

                                    Yes, it needs but those are unrelated.

                                    The old thread might contain some interesting information that might get lost if the thread's discarded.

                                    Sure it may contain useful information, that's one of the reasons why they are not deleted. So the user can read those info and check if they help fixing the issue.

                                    There are threads that are created one for all. And it no way will be wise to have a dozen of "See this picture I share today!" instead of one "Share a picture", or a hundred of "My Weather Today" instead of one "What is your Weather?":)

                                    As I said, topics are kept opened while they are needed, so if one got closed is because it's not needed anymore.

                                    A discussion might sink or appear inactive either by chance or due to the lack of immediate answer (followed by some other activity that buried the thread).

                                    It would take a long time of being inactive for a topic to be closed.

                                    It is about difference for the Lounge.

                                    And because of that the topics here are kept opened for a longer time than those in the regular forums.

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                                    • A Former User
                                      A Former User last edited by admin

                                      Here I mentioned a seemingly forum trouble, but I remembered something.

                                      My Opera 36 is included in my 360 Total Security's active protection.
                                      And it seems that connection issues occur "early in the morning", or when I just opened the browser, or first time visit the site in a session, how to put it?
                                      I dare speculate that this active protection may even interfere with Ookla's speedtest - as the computer definitely sends and receives something with the browser.
                                      So my ISP could kinda be right that my AV messing with connection.
                                      But could it be on a specific browser? With 360 feature I just mentioned?

                                      @leocg
                                      Leo, I couldn't find my "Antimalware Software" thread even with my closed ones. You'd deleted it or is it a site issue?
                                      And would you please reopen a couple of threads? Notably, "Formatting on the Forums"? See if there's not much BS there though.

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                                      • leocg
                                        leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by admin

                                        I couldn't find my "Antimalware Software" thread even with my closed ones

                                        This one?

                                        And would you please reopen a couple of threads? Notably, "Formatting on the Forums"?

                                        For what reason?

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                                        • A Former User
                                          A Former User last edited by

                                          Agreed. Better a new thread: a guide topic about browsing, posting, formatting and editing. This one is a bit messy and about formatting only.

                                          Found?
                                          It's a site issue then. "Profile" or "Mine" - there's no "more" button and there wasn't that thread.

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                                          • leocg
                                            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                            Found?
                                            It's a site issue then. "Profile" or "Mine" - there's no "more" button and there wasn't that thread.

                                            Strange, that's exactly how I found the topic.

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