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    • leocg
      leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

      But usually a good product has a good market share.

      It may depend on several factors. Marketing can make a huge difference for example.

      Opera presto had more options than other browsers

      For sure, but at the same time that it was something good for some users, for others it used to cause some confusion mainly because people tended to forget that they had enabled/disabled one of those options or had a custom menu/toolbar.

      Also, all those options turned Presto in something hard to maintain.

      As I said sometimes, I'm not against options, features, etc but they should be evaluated before being implemented so the same mistakes will not happen again.

      Like the pinned topic on this forum says, a new feature/option should be useful for most users.

      Opera has complex things.

      It's a complex software. 馃槂

      It's there when need it, for every user.

      Sorry, but things don't work that way. You can't simply go adding options and features without checking if they would be really useful for both the users and the software authors.

      Like I always say: more options/features means more code, more code means more (chances of) bugs.

      Translation驴?

      You can add Google Translator or any other as a search engine. I did that and I use it.

      Opera could allow use search engines with urls in address bar. I think it would be better than being asked all the tine if you want to translate a page like in Chrome.

      Anyway, as Opera don't have a translation service, adding a translation feature may depend on a legal agreement with one of those services.

      Unload toolbar from extension icons驴?

      How it would be useful?

      Reset browser option when problems detected?

      A rest button would be interesting, something like the one in flags page.

      Anyway, none of those could be called basic features.

      Many posts problems are solved cleaning cookies and cache, it could be managed without asking in the forums with an easy access and an info banner

      It may work for the more 'tech savvy' users who know what to do and, more than everything, know what they are doing. The others would still ask for help.

      And cleaning cookies should be an ultimate solution as it makes the user loose many site configurations.>

      Of course, but usually the question should be:
      How satisfied are the users with the product?
      Are we fulfilling the needings?

      Welcome to capitalism. Welcome to real world. :-D>

      Without extensions, Chromium is nothing

      Why?

      I use only one extension in Chrome, mainly for testing purposes. In Opera I use two at the moment, none of them I could call essential.

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      • zalex108
        zalex108 last edited by

        Well, I could understand your opinion.

        About Opera, I don't understand his strategy...

        "You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you". 路 Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

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        • zalex108
          zalex108 last edited by

          http://www.opera.com/blogs/desktop/2014/11/feedback-feedback-feedback/

          A post pointing to Suggestions box will be need it. 卢卢 馃槂

          "You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you". 路 Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

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          • leocg
            leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

            About Opera, I don't understand his strategy...

            What strategy exactly? On what?

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            • zalex108
              zalex108 last edited by admin

              What strategy exactly? On what?

              https://forums.opera.com/post/119085

              "You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you". 路 Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

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              • leocg
                leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by admin

                What strategy exactly? On what?

                https://forums.opera.com/post/119085

                Well, just because something has been requeste doesn't mean that it should be implemented because of all the reasons already listed.

                BTW: http://www.opera.com/blogs/desktop/2017/04/opera-developer-46-0-2567-0-update/#comment-3264703977

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                • A Former User
                  A Former User last edited by

                  They always say security is a priority, but still, I have to use an extension if I want to have an overview of site permissions. The Chrome solution is very good. They could use it, at least least until it gets a priority.

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                  • zalex108
                    zalex108 last edited by

                    Well, just because something has been requeste doesn't mean that it should be implemented because of all the reasons already listed.
                    BTW: http://www.opera.com/blogs/desktop/2017/04/opera-developer-46-0-2567-0-update/#comment-3264703977

                    That option it's a must to keep a clean UI.
                    You don't need to see some extension icons rarely clicked but used, and I don't want to hide the icon from toolbar and spend time every time I need to modify something on it.
                    Also reorder extensions and keep them organized it's an aspect of good behavior.

                    Some requests are extremely easy to understand.

                    "You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you". 路 Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

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                    • leocg
                      leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                      That option it's a must to keep a clean UI.

                      Also reorder extensions and keep them organized it's an aspect of good behavior.

                      Maybe for those users who use a bunch of extensions, but how many they are? It worths the efforts to implement such feature?

                      There are many questions that need to be answered before adding or changing something.

                      You don't need to see some extension icons rarely clicked but used, and I don't want to hide the icon from toolbar and spend time every time I need to modify something on it.

                      And how that feature would help on that?

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                      • zalex108
                        zalex108 last edited by

                        You don't need to see some extension icons rarely clicked but used, and I don't want to hide the icon from toolbar and spend time every time I need to modify something on it.

                        And how that feature would help on that?

                        Hide + Reordering

                        "You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you". 路 Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

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                        • leocg
                          leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                          Hide + Reordering

                          But you can already hide them.

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                          • zalex108
                            zalex108 last edited by admin

                            This is not what I mean,


                            聽

                            it's useful just for very few of them.

                            I mean this

                            "You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you". 路 Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

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                            • A Former User
                              A Former User last edited by

                              There is a nice Opera extension called "Policy Control" which allows one to make exceptions for 11 preference settings for individual sites.

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                              • zalex108
                                zalex108 last edited by

                                Nice,
                                I have another extensions but i'll try that too.

                                BTW, I prefer that kind of option menus built in the browser itself.

                                "You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you". 路 Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

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