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    • cl007
      cl007 last edited by

      Strange. I just tested both opera AND mini, and both are showing ads. Really disappointed in opera. It is the browser I wish I could like, but constantly falls short.

      Not related to ads but I wish they'd just merge both mini and 'regular' mobile versions. Mini has a handful of useful features absent from regular opera, but the ui is different in mini.

      If not merge, then at the very least incorporate all those features found in mini into regular opera mobile

      Edit: opera mini doesn't show ads from all the same sites as regular opera, but take yahoo mail mobile site for example. Ads show up in the top of both regular and mini

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      • nerv2
        nerv2 last edited by

        The simple thing would be to allow extensions from opera desktop to be used on opers mobile. Then we could use 3rd party adblock. They're both chrome-based, so not sure why desktop allows extensions/addons/whatever, and opera mobile does not

        Yes, porting the desktop version of Opera on Android it's easy-breezy. They have some clues how it works and they hired some new Mechs toiling over in 3 shifts 24/7 to raise this feature on. I've heard that to work harder and faster they're listening Daft Punk and 'are praying to their Neon God to stop the mind's noise in attempt to discover the forth "minky". 😃

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        • fannybaws
          fannybaws last edited by

          The simple thing would be to allow extensions from opera desktop to be used on opers mobile. Then we could use 3rd party adblock. They're both chrome-based, so not sure why desktop allows extensions/addons/whatever, and opera mobile does not

          Yes, porting the desktop version of Opera on Android it's easy-breezy. They have some clues how it works and they hired some new Mechs toiling over in 3 shifts 24/7 to raise this feature on. I've heard that to work harder and faster they're listening Daft Punk and 'are praying to their Neon God to stop the mind's noise in attempt to discover the forth "minky".

          Maybe I'm missing something here, but I can't see where @cl007 said anything about "porting the desktop version of Opera on Android..."?

          Actually, @cl007's hypothesis is pretty much correct, as I have extensions loaded on a browser built from opera dev source.

          I have the duckduckgo extension, and a chromium Sample Context Menus API extension loaded, and working.

          The majority of Chrome extensions are cross platform, so the "desktop version of Opera on Android...?" statement has no substance.

          From my browser:

          chrome://flags

          Extensions on browser:// URLs Mac, Windows, Linux, Chrome OS, Android
          Enables running extensions on browser:// URLs, where extensions explicitly request this permission. #extensions-on-chrome-urls

          So why "flame" the suggestion that Opera for Android could run Opera extensions, when it can?
          Nice.

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          • gicmarkets
            gicmarkets last edited by

            Opera is still a popular mobile browser among the users. It should add latest technology on this service. Ads block can be great features for the browser. users will feel comfort when ads block would be installed during using any website.

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            • leocg
              leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

              Ads block can be great features for the browser

              Opera already has an ad-blocker.

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              • A Former User
                A Former User last edited by

                Ads block can be great features for the browser

                Opera already has an ad-blocker.

                but opera's built in ad blocker does not block ads so I am waiting when you improve it!

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                • Deleted User
                  Deleted User last edited by

                  i'm with @emniss on this issue.

                  the adblocking for mini and o4a happens on the opera servers before trafficking to the user. the filter lists they use are there therefor not selectable or editable by the end user, unlike ublock origin (or others) in firefox/icecat or other fullsize standalone android browsers.
                  works good enough for me, thank you very much.
                  maybe we'll get a selection of add-ons for o4a in non-data-saving mode sometime, making it even bigger, slower and more complicated for the average end-user simpleton.

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                  • cl007
                    cl007 last edited by

                    Maybe I'm missing something here, but I can't see where @cl007 said anything about "porting the desktop version of Opera on Android..."?
                    Actually, @cl007's hypothesis is pretty much correct, as I have extensions loaded on a browser built from opera dev source.
                    I have the duckduckgo extension, and a chromium Sample Context Menus API extension loaded, and working.
                    The majority of Chrome extensions are cross platform, so the "desktop version of Opera on Android...?" statement has no substance.
                    From my browser:
                    chrome://flags
                    Extensions on browser:// URLs Mac, Windows, Linux, Chrome OS, Android
                    Enables running extensions on browser:// URLs, where extensions explicitly request this permission. #extensions-on-chrome-urls
                    So why "flame" the suggestion that Opera for Android could run Opera extensions, when it can?
                    Nice.

                    Thank you. I am glad someone understood what I was trying to say 🙂

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                    • A Former User
                      A Former User last edited by

                      I guess Opera is using hosts blocking which will be difficult to block some hardcoded ads

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                      • A Former User
                        A Former User last edited by

                        The ads that are coming through are mostly google ads. I guess they struck a deal with google not to block their ads, in exchange for being allowed to remain in play store. Would be nice to get an official statement on this, but I'm not holding my breath. Opera's communication is terrible.

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                        • leocg
                          leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                          Would be nice to get an official statement on this

                          I don't see any reasons for this. If you read their blogs, you will see that they mention that a few sites are white-listed.

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                          • A Former User
                            A Former User last edited by

                            Edit:
                            I checked all available opera android blogs concerning data savings and ad-blocking. None of them states which ads go through. Opera only talks about blocking ads to save our data, but it generally implies that all ads get blocked. Link me to a blog that says otherwise, I would be interested.

                            Also I believe you don't understand how ad providers work nowadays leocg. I'm pretty sure sites aren't whitelisted, but ad-services are and therefore all sites who use a whitelisted ad-service (like google ads), don't have the ads removed.

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                            • leocg
                              leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                              I checked all available opera android blogs concerning data savings and ad-blocking. None of them states which ads go through

                              It's not in an Opera Mobile blog: http://www.opera.com/blogs/news/2016/05/time-take-stand-ad-blockers/

                              "Opera currently only features a very small whitelist of websites(...)"

                              'm pretty sure sites aren't whitelisted

                              In Opera for desktops you can see the list of white-listed sites. There are four or five, with Google and Facebook among them.

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                              • A Former User
                                A Former User last edited by

                                Yeah, some sites are whitelisted they say, but it isn't true. They whitelist specific ad-providers, not specific sites. Or why is it that I find google ads on every site I visit? Are you telling me all these sites are whitelisted? Then it wouldn't be a few whitelisted sites, but thousands of websites. The article states it wrong, I'm sorry but you are clearly mistaken.

                                The sad thing is that google ads on android are intrusive. They hinder the view, and for example on XDA they appear after every second post. Not only that, but there is also a google ad coming in via a slider on bottom of screen. Then there is another kind of google ad on bottom of screen sometimes, which you can close, but instead of it a google message is shown then.

                                We need better ad block in Opera. It's simply not good enough. I would like to forego rooting my phone again, but if I want to use Opera I simply have to. The other solution would be to run Firefox, they have working extensions.

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                                • leocg
                                  leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                  Or why is it that I find google ads on every site I visit?

                                  Because google.com is white-listed so ads from Google will not be blocked?

                                  Are you telling me all these sites are whitelisted?

                                  No, but they may contain ads from white-listed pages/domains.

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                                  • A Former User
                                    A Former User last edited by

                                    Nice quoting.

                                    Anyway, for everyone sick and tired of ads coming through in Opera for Android, just switch to Opera mini. I've never tried it before but apparently all ads get blocked with it, including the annoying google ads.

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                                    • A Former User
                                      A Former User last edited by

                                      The simple thing would be to allow extensions from opera desktop to be used on opers mobile. Then we could use 3rd party adblock. They're both chrome-based, so not sure why desktop allows extensions/addons/whatever, and opera mobile does not

                                      I agree. There is a browser for android called yandex browser that is chromium based and allows extensions to be installed. They even use the opera extensions site as their extensions web store, although you can also install extensions from the chrome web store as well. Why opera doesn't do it as well is beyond me.

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                                      • A Former User
                                        A Former User last edited by

                                        It would be great to add custom filters for Opera adblock

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                                        • dieaug
                                          dieaug last edited by

                                          Same problem here. Google Ads on all sites I visit.

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                                          • skemeropera
                                            skemeropera last edited by

                                            how do I disable adblock temporarily. I need to access some site with no adblock on my browser..

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