Posts made by tomskii9918

Not sure but I think it is kind of working now. I just leave it as is, it is the best I can get it.
So thanks a lot everbody ,
Thomas

I guess the accounts for which the mails are only stored on my PC need some more attention?

I think I was a bit to quick claiming everything is wotking.
I fetched some more mails but I still have a from April 2016 till some where in 2013?
Maybe there are more accounts I need to reopen and fetch?
Thanks
Thomas

Hey burnout426 it seems that everything is working out fine here.
Some minor issues with the layout of older mails but I will start importing the other accounts first before worrying about the layout.

Thanks a lot so far
Thomas

And yet some more I tried - logging.
I did add the lines to the accounts.ini as described in the link mentioned above.
Hover it turned out that no .log file was created. Its probably me making mistakes, but it seems to be pretty straight forward. And I can't spot the possible mistake!

And another piece of information if I send a mail from another mail account to myself, the mail arrives at the computer in in received box at the most recent position. Strange is the fact that the focus of the focus bar (navigation bar) is moved to the oldest mail. So I receive the mail but I see the oldest mail instead of the current mail that arrived.

I just recognized another thing some of the mails that should be in the sent folder are put in the received folder, and as a result of that i think the From field is changed to recipient field (my Full name). This is only the case for some mails and only at a random basis. Just now 4 mails are received wrong is the received box but should have gone to the sent box. And also some older mails show the same behavior at random.

Sorry should have checked better before. I had another look and now I found that the test mail is not making it around because it is sitting in the outbox, and is not leaving the computer.

Hey it seems to work burnout426. But a bit strange.
When I cam back from hospital I tried first all setting as they where.
Type:
IMAP incoming server name: imap.ziggo.nl port: 993 TLS: checked username: my email address password: my password
outgoing server name: smtp.ziggo.nl port: 465 TLS: checked username: my email address password: your password
These are the settings you suggested a bit further up. The only thing I did today was to re-enter the password for incoming and outgoing server. Still nothing happened. When I had another look at the kdhtm@ziggo.nl section at the bottom left part of the screen I saw the first option read kdhtm@ziggo.nl and I tried it. This triggered that the mails from the server where downloaded. Mails go back to about the same point they do on the server (checked with webmail). Just at this moment a mail was fetched (autoamtically) without any interaction upfront. When I now send a test mail (adressed to myselfe) from Opera Mail on my computer nothing happens and I cant see the mail any more on my computer or on webmail. Therefore I tried what happens when I send a test mail (to myselfe) from the webmail account. And in that case the mail is received automatically from opera mail on my computer. ??

Thanks for the tips burnout426, I'm currently in hospital as soon as I'm out again I will try your suggestion.

Seems I made some steps - not sure if it is progress.
I went to the section that says kdhtm@ziggo.nl with the spinning circle, did a right click and selected Properties (Account Properties). Here I selected the Servers tab and it turned out the port numbers where set incorrectly (different from what i entered when I created the account??), therefore I did set incoming and outgoing servers to the port numbers given by burnout426. I pressed OK and the spinning circle became a yellow exclamation mark. But apart from that nothing happend.
While I was still in the server tab of the account properties I saw a drop down menu with different Authentication methods selected was Auto - but I'm not sure what the correct authentication method is.
In summary I did something, something seemed to have moved - but I have not the impression that IMAP mails have been retrieved from the ziggo server.

OK I trying to do my best to describe what the current situation looks like:
scanners (avast) are off line and opera mail seems to be busy with connecting to the ziggo server. However one welcome-mail has already been fetched from somewhere (probably during setup from the computer).
At the bottom it says connecting.
And somewhat higher there is a section saying kdhtm@ziggo.nl there a circle is spinning.
When I right click on that section there is a properties option tab and there I can set multiple settings associated with the account. A quick look I took indicated that a couple of settings are incorrect here. i.e. port settings.
Strange thing is thta everything was set correctly when I created this IMAP account.
Do you think I should just update the settings in the properties section? There is also a section for IMAP folders I have not checked what is behind that selection, and there is another selection for Read kdhtm@ziggo.nl again I did not try that selection. The log I did not try - as far as I understood I would need to activate that first. I think I have other issues at hand that require focus first.
And I hope you can figure out what is going on here without the log.

OK burnout426 not sure it is working.
I created an IMAP account with all the settings you did mention above.
When Opera starts I have one mail: "Dear Opera Mail User" seems to be a sort of general welcome message.

For the rest Opera is trying to connect with the server (I suppose) but does't get there.

Hello burnout426 I'm back from my parents - had to say them goodbye and that worked out pretty good.
On the family machine I have reinstalled Opera as to your directions and also adjusted the settings files.
So everything should be correctly installed and set up.

In the meanwhile I checked something again and found that there seem to be 4 different mail accounts.
One for smtp.ziggo.nl, another for mail.ziggo.nl, another for imap.ziggo.nl and the last pop.ziggo.nl
They all have the same account (user) name and same password.

I mention this here before I start importing as I'm not sure if the above described import process is aware of this or needs to be made aware of this, or if I have to import all these apart?

And more practical when I start Opera Mail first screens says "New Account Wizard" with options to select what kind of account you would like to create: Email, Newsgroup, Import Mail. I guess I select Import mail and then next.

When I do so I get another screen to select a program: Import generic mbox file, Import from Opera, Import from Opera 5/6, Import from Eudora, Import from Netscape 6/7, Import from Thunderbird, Import from Outlook Express.

I just did read everything above careful again and realized that I am wrong already. What I have to do in the first screen that Opera pops up is to select (to create) Email. And do this for all accounts. My question now is just do I do this for pop and imap or also for mail (how is that done) and smtp (how is that done)? After these accounts have been reestablished I would import the old mail for the computer and the new mail from the server right?

Please be patient with me it is not just that I want to be careful but it seems that the drugs I´m getting do not help being clear, fast and logic at the moment. I have a feeling that this mail stuff is getting me to my limits at the moment. I tend to check and double check everything just to make sure I´m not talking any incoherent stuff the same goes for doing stupid things.
Thanks a lot

Best burnout426,
thanks for your additional help - its greatly appreciated.
Currently I'm visiting my parents - but I will try Monday on my home computer.
I will let you know how it was working out.
Regards,
Thomas

Best burnout426 thanks a lot again for your extensive help - I appreciate it much.
I have a view points that I need to clarify.

For the first part new installation of Opera I'm clear - I guess I do not do an install before that new installation?

When it gets to mail accounts -I'm not so sure anymore. I know it seems as if I had 7 accounts or so but that is not correct. It was probably the case that I always only had two active accounts (one IMAP and one POP). The rest are probably redundant accounts from previous versions and upgrades? But I understand I have to import them as well or at least the mails associated with them.
And here my problem starts how is that working out in detail - I'm not sure? Sorry but that is my slowness again. ANd before I do anything that prevents later repair I rather ask twice.
Have a good day

In J:\OperaMail1_0\All User Mail\mail is another accounts.ini with:
Opera Preferences version 2.1
; Do not edit this file while Opera is running
; This file is stored in UTF-8 encoding

[Accounts]
Version=9
Headers=Subject,Date,From,Organization,To,Cc,Bcc,Reply-To,Newsgroups,Followup-To,Resent-Date,Resent-From,Resent-To,Resent-Cc,Resent-Bcc,Resent-Reply-To,User-Agent,X-Mailer,Also-Control,Approved,Archive,Article-Names,Article-Updates,Comments,Complaints-To,Content-Disposition,Content-Transfer-Encoding,Content-Type,Control,Distribution,Encrypted,Expires,In-Reply-To,Injector-Info,Keywords,Lines,List-Id,List-Post,Mailing-List,Mail-Copies-To,Message-ID,MIME-Version,Posted-And-Mailed,Received,References,Resent-Message-ID,Resent-Sender,Return-path,See-Also,Sender,Status,Summary,Supersedes,X-Face,X-Priority,Xref,X-Mailing-List
Added 11.60 Upgrade Mail=1
Account1=5
Default Mail Account=5
Account2=6
Next Available Id=8
Count=3
Account3=7

[Account5]
Incoming Protocol=POP
Outgoing Protocol=SMTP
Charset=iso-8859-15
Personalization
Xface
Temporary=0
Category=
Incoming Port=995
Outgoing Port=587
Secure Connection In=1
Secure Connection Out=1
Secure Authentication=0
Incoming Authentication Method=31
Outgoing Authentication Method=2
Incoming Timeout=60
Outgoing Timeout=90
Remove From Server Delay Enabled=0
Remove From Server Delay=604800
Remove From Server Only If Marked As Read=1
Remove From Server Only If Complete Message=1
Initial Poll Delay=5
Poll Interval=300
Max Download Size=0
Purge Age=-1
Purge Size=-1
Download Bodies=1
Download Attachments=1
Leave On Server=1
Server Has Spam Filter=0
IMAP BODYSTRUCTURE support=1
IMAP IDLE support=1
Permanent Delete=1
Queue Outgoing=0
Send Queued After Check=0
Mark Read If Seen=0
Sound Enabled=1
Manual Check Enabled=1
Add Contact When Sending=1
Show Warning For Empty Subject=1
Account Name=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
Incoming Servername=pop.ziggo.nl
Incoming Username=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
Outgoing Servername=smtp.ziggo.nl
Outgoing Username=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
Force Charset=0
Allow 8Bit Headers=0
Allow 8Bit Transfer=0
Allow Incoming QuotedString QP=1
Prefer HTML Composing=1
Real Name=Mikosch - den Hollander
Email=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
Replyto=
Organization=Home Office
Signature File={Resources}All User Mail/mail/signature5.txt
Sound File=C:\Windows\Media\Characters\Windows Print complete.wav
Reply=On %:Date:, %f wrote:
Followup
Forward=\n\n------- Forwarded message -------\nFrom: %:From:\nTo: %:To:\nCc: %:Cc:\nSubject: %:Subject:\nDate: %:Date:\n
Linelength=76
Remove Signature On Reply=1
Max QuoteDepth On Reply=-1
Max QuoteDepth On QuickReply=2
Auto CC=
Auto BCC=
Signature is HTML=0
Low bandwidth mode=0
Fetch Max Lines=100
Fetch Only Text=0
Default Direction=0
Default Store=2

[Account6]
Incoming Protocol=IMAP
Outgoing Protocol=SMTP
Charset=iso-8859-15
Personalization
Xface
Temporary=0
Category=
Incoming Port=993
Outgoing Port=587
Secure Connection In=1
Secure Connection Out=1
Secure Authentication=0
Incoming Authentication Method=31
Outgoing Authentication Method=31
Incoming Timeout=60
Outgoing Timeout=90
Remove From Server Delay Enabled=0
Remove From Server Delay=604800
Remove From Server Only If Marked As Read=0
Remove From Server Only If Complete Message=1
Initial Poll Delay=5
Poll Interval=300
Max Download Size=0
Purge Age=-1
Purge Size=-1
Download Bodies=0
Download Attachments=1
Leave On Server=0
Server Has Spam Filter=1
IMAP BODYSTRUCTURE support=1
IMAP IDLE support=1
Permanent Delete=1
Queue Outgoing=0
Send Queued After Check=0
Mark Read If Seen=1
Sound Enabled=1
Manual Check Enabled=1
Add Contact When Sending=1
Show Warning For Empty Subject=1
Account Name=kdhtm@ziggo.nl (2)
Incoming Servername=imap.ziggo.nl
Incoming Username=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
Outgoing Servername=smtp.ziggo.nl
Outgoing Username=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
Force Charset=0
Allow 8Bit Headers=0
Allow 8Bit Transfer=0
Allow Incoming QuotedString QP=1
Prefer HTML Composing=4
Real Name=Mikosch - den Hollander
Email=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
Replyto=
Organization=Home Office
Signature File={Resources}All User Mail/mail/signature6.txt
Sound File=
Reply=On %:Date:, %f wrote:
Followup
Forward=\n\n------- Forwarded message -------\nFrom: %:From:\nTo: %:To:\nCc: %:Cc:\nSubject: %:Subject:\nDate: %:Date:\n
Linelength=76
Remove Signature On Reply=1
Max QuoteDepth On Reply=-1
Max QuoteDepth On QuickReply=2
Auto CC=
Auto BCC=
Signature is HTML=0
Low bandwidth mode=0
Fetch Max Lines=100
Fetch Only Text=1
Default Direction=0
Default Store=2

[Account7]
Incoming Protocol=RSS
Outgoing Protocol
Charset=iso-8859-15
Personalization
Xface
Temporary=0
Category
Incoming Port=0
Outgoing Port=0
Secure Connection In=0
Secure Connection Out=0
Secure Authentication=0
Incoming Authentication Method=0
Outgoing Authentication Method=0
Incoming Timeout=0
Outgoing Timeout=0
Remove From Server Delay Enabled=0
Remove From Server Delay=604800
Remove From Server Only If Marked As Read=0
Remove From Server Only If Complete Message=1
Initial Poll Delay=5
Poll Interval=300
Max Download Size=0
Purge Age=-1
Purge Size=-1
Download Bodies=0
Download Attachments=0
Leave On Server=1
Server Has Spam Filter=0
IMAP BODYSTRUCTURE support=1
IMAP IDLE support=1
Permanent Delete=1
Queue Outgoing=0
Send Queued After Check=0
Mark Read If Seen=0
Sound Enabled=0
Manual Check Enabled=1
Add Contact When Sending=1
Show Warning For Empty Subject=1
Account Name=RSS
Incoming Servername
Incoming Username
Outgoing Servername
Outgoing Username
Force Charset=0
Allow 8Bit Headers=0
Allow 8Bit Transfer=0
Allow Incoming QuotedString QP=1
Prefer HTML Composing=4
Real Name
Email
Replyto
Organization
Signature File={Resources}All User Mail/mail/signature7.txt
Sound File
Reply
Followup
Forward
Linelength=76
Remove Signature On Reply=1
Max QuoteDepth On Reply=-1
Max QuoteDepth On QuickReply=2
Auto CC
Auto BCC
Signature is HTML=0
Low bandwidth mode=0
Fetch Max Lines=100
Fetch Only Text=0
Default Direction=0
Default Store=2

Maybe this helps figuring out what to do
Thomas

Hello all:
I found a accounts.ini file on J:\OperaMail1_0 it is from 09.04.2016 which shoul dbe from before the accident. It looks like this:
Opera Preferences version 2.1
; Do not edit this file while Opera is running
; This file is stored in UTF-8 encoding

[Accounts]
Version=9
Added 11.60 Upgrade Mail=1
Headers=Subject,Date,From,Organization,To,Cc,Bcc,Reply-To,Newsgroups,Followup-To,Resent-Date,Resent-From,Resent-To,Resent-Cc,Resent-Bcc,Resent-Reply-To,User-Agent,X-Mailer,Also-Control,Approved,Archive,Article-Names,Article-Updates,Comments,Complaints-To,Content-Disposition,Content-Transfer-Encoding,Content-Type,Control,Distribution,Encrypted,Expires,In-Reply-To,Injector-Info,Keywords,Lines,List-Id,List-Post,Mailing-List,Mail-Copies-To,Message-ID,MIME-Version,Posted-And-Mailed,Received,References,Resent-Message-ID,Resent-Sender,Return-path,See-Also,Sender,Status,Summary,Supersedes,X-Face,X-Priority,Xref,X-Mailing-List
Next Available Id=5
Account1=4
Count=1
Default Mail Account=4

[Account4]
Incoming Protocol=POP
Outgoing Protocol=SMTP
Charset=iso-8859-15
Personalization
Xface
Temporary=0
Category=
Incoming Port=110
Outgoing Port=25
Secure Connection In=0
Secure Connection Out=0
Secure Authentication=0
Incoming Authentication Method=31
Outgoing Authentication Method=31
Incoming Timeout=60
Outgoing Timeout=90
Remove From Server Delay Enabled=1
Remove From Server Delay=604800
Remove From Server Only If Marked As Read=0
Remove From Server Only If Complete Message=1
Initial Poll Delay=5
Poll Interval=300
Max Download Size=0
Purge Age=-1
Purge Size=-1
Download Bodies=1
Download Attachments=1
Leave On Server=1
Server Has Spam Filter=0
IMAP BODYSTRUCTURE support=1
IMAP IDLE support=1
Permanent Delete=0
Queue Outgoing=0
Send Queued After Check=0
Mark Read If Seen=0
Sound Enabled=1
Manual Check Enabled=1
Add Contact When Sending=1
Show Warning For Empty Subject=1
Account Name=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
Incoming Servername=pop.ziggo.nl
Incoming Username=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
Outgoing Servername=smtp.ziggo.nl
Outgoing Username=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
Force Charset=0
Allow 8Bit Headers=0
Allow 8Bit Transfer=0
Allow Incoming QuotedString QP=1
Prefer HTML Composing=1
Real Name=Mikosch - den Hollander
Email=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
Replyto=
Organization=Home Office
Signature File=J:\OperaMail\AllUsers\Mail\signature3.txt
Sound File=C:\Windows\Media\Characters\Windows Print complete.wav
Reply=On %:Date:, %f wrote:
Followup
Forward=\n\n------- Forwarded message -------\nFrom: %:From:\nTo: %:To:\nCc: %:Cc:\nSubject: %:Subject:\nDate: %:Date:\n
Linelength=76
Remove Signature On Reply=1
Max QuoteDepth On Reply=-1
Max QuoteDepth On QuickReply=2
Auto CC=
Auto BCC=
Signature is HTML=0
Low bandwidth mode=0
Fetch Max Lines=100
Fetch Only Text=0
Default Direction=0
Default Store=2

I found another accounts.ini in J:\OperaMail\AllUsers\Mail containing this

Opera Preferences version 2.1
; Do not edit this file while Opera is running
; This file is stored in UTF-8 encoding

[Accounts]
Account1=2
Version=9
Added 11.60 Upgrade Mail=1
Headers=Subject,Date,From,Organization,To,Cc,Bcc,Reply-To,Newsgroups,Followup-To,Resent-Date,Resent-From,Resent-To,Resent-Cc,Resent-Bcc,Resent-Reply-To,Also-Control,Approved,Archive,Article-Names,Article-Updates,Comments,Complaints-To,Content-Disposition,Content-Transfer-Encoding,Content-Type,Control,Distribution,Encrypted,Expires,In-Reply-To,Injector-Info,Keywords,Lines,List-Id,List-Post,Mailing-List,Mail-Copies-To,Message-ID,MIME-Version,Posted-And-Mailed,Received,References,Resent-Message-ID,Resent-Sender,Return-path,See-Also,Sender,Status,Summary,Supersedes,User-Agent,X-Face,X-Mailer,Xref,X-Mailing-List,X-Priority
Next Available Id=4
Count=2
Account2=3
Default Mail Account=3

[Account3]
Incoming Protocol=POP
Outgoing Protocol=SMTP
Charset=iso-8859-15
Personalization
Xface
Temporary=0
Category=
Incoming Port=110
Outgoing Port=25
Secure Connection In=0
Secure Connection Out=0
Secure Authentication=0
Incoming Authentication Method=31
Outgoing Authentication Method=31
Incoming Timeout=60
Outgoing Timeout=90
Remove From Server Delay Enabled=1
Remove From Server Delay=604800
Remove From Server Only If Marked As Read=0
Remove From Server Only If Complete Message=1
Initial Poll Delay=5
Poll Interval=300
Max Download Size=0
Purge Age=-1
Purge Size=-1
Download Bodies=1
Download Attachments=1
Leave On Server=1
Server Has Spam Filter=0
IMAP BODYSTRUCTURE support=1
IMAP IDLE support=1
Permanent Delete=0
Queue Outgoing=0
Send Queued After Check=0
Mark Read If Seen=0
Sound Enabled=0
Manual Check Enabled=1
Add Contact When Sending=1
Show Warning For Empty Subject=1
Account Name=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
Incoming Servername=pop.ziggo.nl
Incoming Username=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
Outgoing Servername=smtp.ziggo.nl
Outgoing Username=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
Force Charset=0
Allow 8Bit Headers=0
Allow 8Bit Transfer=0
Allow Incoming QuotedString QP=1
Prefer HTML Composing=1
Real Name=Mikosch - den Hollander
Email=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
Replyto=
Organization=Home Office
Signature File=J:\OperaMail\AllUsers\Mail\signature3.txt
Sound File=
Reply=On %:Date:, %f wrote:
Followup
Forward=\n\n------- Forwarded message -------\nFrom: %:From:\nTo: %:To:\nCc: %:Cc:\nSubject: %:Subject:\nDate: %:Date:\n
Linelength=76
Remove Signature On Reply=1
Max QuoteDepth On Reply=-1
Max QuoteDepth On QuickReply=2
Auto CC=
Auto BCC=
Signature is HTML=0
Low bandwidth mode=0
Fetch Max Lines=100
Fetch Only Text=0
Default Direction=0
Default Store=2

Hello burnout426 you are helping me so much:

Open operaprefs_default.ini with notepad looks like this:
Opera Preferences version 2.1
; Do not edit this file while Opera is running
; This file is stored in UTF-8 encoding

[System]
Opera Product=0

[User Prefs]
Language Files Directory={Resources}locale\en
Language File={Resources}locale\en\en.lng

[Auto Update]
Country Code=NL

and is located at J:\OperaMail1_0.

In the folder where operamail.exe and operaprefs_default.ini are at, is the a folder named "profile"? No there is no folder profile whatsoever in J:\OperaMail1_0.

If I could get opera mail up and running again for POP and IMAP in a multiuser mode it would be great. If I could access (large parts)of the old maildata base in a multiuser setting it would be fantastic. If someone could help me wit setting that up from what is left on my computer would make me very happy.

all of you thanks a lot but I'm a bit slow in this.
burnout426; already figuring out old and new mail accounts and preferences etc. seems difficult.
In About Opera Mail I can see:
Preferences are at root:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\Opera Mail\OperaMail1_0\operaprefs.ini.
If I remember correct this is not a custom location I created when using original opera mail 1.0 but is the standard for a new installation (or start of a session in my case. But I'm not sure about this.
Saved session
C:\Users\Thomas\AppData\Roaming\Opera Mail\OperaMail1_0\sessions\autopera.win
Given the location same thing as in case above.
Mail directory is given as
J:\OperaMail1_0\All User Mail\mail. This seems to be the latest used custom location. But it has no operaprefs.ini but has a operaprefs_default.ini and it has no autopera.win what so ever. I have set file explorer to show all files.
And then we also have the J:\OperaMail\AllUsers\Mail folder I think again a custom folder used for opera mail before opera mail 1.0 - but I'm not sure.
My confusion is where to start etc.
One other question: when you say "edit" you mean just give it a different name? I'm not sure here.
Again thanks a lot don't think I'm not working on it - I do but most days I am 50% of the time in hospital mostly for radiation. I try to do my best but speed is not up to a 100% and the amount of data is also not helping. I get a better idea with all info I getr from you but still I miss some pieces. I will work on it as much as possibe and may some has some more directions concerning the locations recoveries imports etc.
Thanks Thomas