Posts made by lodestone

PS:
I don't like Windows 10. With the use of StartIsBack my Windows 8.1 looks and works perfectly. And to stop all the Microsoft spying I use Destroy Windows Spying (DWS).

I also find Opera 12.18 the best. Began utilizing Opera 15 years ago, and have enjoyed it all that time. Including the integrated Mail client.

I've tried the new Opera quite a few times over the years, but find it much less handy. So every time after a few hours using the latest version at that time I deleted it again.

The few occasions a website is not rendered completely well -like a video won't play- in Opera 12.18 I simply click on that web-page so that the panel with a choice to open that site with my Firefox or IE 11 appears, and problem solved. But Opera is my default browser.

I re-installed Opera 12.17 again and removed Opera 30. The reasons are described here:

"Needing an App for Reporting to SpamCop?"
http://forum.firetrust.com/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=16690&p=97592#p97592

PS:
To be precise (for always getting StartPage as Homepage) this is what I also did:

In Opera > Settings > On startup > Check Open a specific page or set of pages > Manage search engines > Set pages > https://startpage.com > OK.

Also, by typing in the name of a site in the top bar of the StartPage page -replacing its URL- I get the website I want right way. I never get to see Speed Dial. Great. That was the only thing that kept me from stepping over to the new Opera browser.

I'm thinking of removing good old 12.17 (which includes its integrated email client, and installing the stand alone Opera Mail...

Thank you.

Shift+ctrl+b shows the bookmark of StartPage now, and then clicking on that opens that page.
That is no more "work" than in Opera 12.17 clicking on the star and then on the address in the list. Just 2 clicks, or in my case, 2 taps on my touchpad.

Thank you.

I followed the instruction given here: https://startpage.com/eng/download-startpage-plugin.html?hmb=1

I filled in "st" (without quotation marks) so all I have to type in the Speed Dial top search bar is st, and I get StartPage in a new tab.

I have the same setup in Opera 12.17.

I noticed that I couldn't copy that long URL for StartPage as given by them. So I copied https://startpage.com/ from the top search bar.

I don't know (yet) how bookmarks works in Opera 30. For example I saved StartPage as a bookmark, and I see 10 instances of it in a small panel when I click on the red heart. But I don't know how to open any of them. The first one is a picture of the StartPage, the other ones next to it are mostly the letters SP in different sizes. None of the open when I click on them.

I just installed Opera 30 (next to 12.17) to try it out. StartPage is set as default: https://startpage.com/

It looks like bookmarks can be saved. But when I open a new tab next to StartPage I get the Speed Dial. Any way to disable that to get a blank page? (As is possible in Opera 12.17 and Firefox.)

Hi!
I'm still utilizing Opera 12.17 without Speed Dial. I have StartPage as default, and otherwise a blank pages, using the search bar on top.

Is it possible to set up Opera 30 like that? (I don't like all those Speed Dial blocks, but that is just a matter of my personal taste.)
And what about bookmarks?

This is an old thread, but I found it and want to say that I tried the new Opera versions since 12.17 and don't like them half as much as Opera 12.17. Yet then I just read that 12.14 is more compatible with websites, so I just replaced 12.17 with 12.14.

I already have IE11 and Firefox, and even with Opera 12.17 it was easy to click on a webpage and choose on the popup Opera gave "Open with" and choose Firefox or IE11, whenever a page would not work wel with Opera 12.17.

Let's see if Opera 12.14 has less issues with web pages, although 12.17 usually worked fine, but not always.

For security, by default I surf in the virtual space -sandbox- of Sandboxie, so I never get bugged.

I don't see any segment for Opera Mail on this forum, so I'll ask it here:

Does Opera Mail -the stand alone version- only notify of new mail when it is minimized on the Taskbar?

I'm asking because that seems to be the case. Which is fine of course... just wondering.

(I see the icon on the Taskbar also when Opera Mail is not minimized, but then I get no notification.)

You are right. I just tested my Internet speed again. This time in 12.17 it was 5.81 and in the 25 it was 5.95.

For some to me unknown reason each browser version connected to a different Oakla host. I guess that also influences it.

I live 4 km from the exchange center -or whatever that is called in English- which means that my ISP cannot deliver the full 20 Mbps I would get if I lived closer to that center. There is no glass-fiber cable in my vicinity yet.

It's fast enough for me. So no problem.

I only intended for my posts to appear in the other thread. No idea why they have appeared here as well...

Thank you.

Opera 25 is a bit faster when doing the speed test you suggested:
Using Oakla:

With 12.16 download speed was 5.88 Mbps.
With 25 it was 6.22 Mbps.

I took the fastest results out of 5 tests of each.

Maybe a good idea to watch HD streams and download large files in 25...

(Although 12.17 is plenty fast enough for me as a simple home user. And I like the shorter time it takes to get to my default home page in that oldie but goodie.)

I'm glad to see so many like Opera 25.

I just ran a speed test with a simple kitchen timer measuring only whole seconds. To see how long from hitting the Opera 12.17 icon on my task bar to my www.startpage.com and the same with Opera 25. The results using Sandboxie and not using it:

Opera 12.17 unsandboxed: 4 seconds. Sandboxed: 6 seconds.

Opera 25 unsandboxed: 8 seconds. Sandboxed: 14 seconds.

Once on my www.startpage.com start page I typed in "google". The page with Google as the top link appeared after 2 seconds in Opera 12.17 and after 1 second in Opera 25.

I repeated each test a few times.

Sandboxie deletes the bookmark blocks in Speed Dial after closing Opera 25. So unless you surf unsandboxed in 25 your Speed Dial bookmarks will not be there the next time.
(Maybe there is a way to set Sandboxie not to delete the Speed Dial bookmarks.)

I'm not sure how that works in Opera 12.17 Speed Dial sandboxed, as I disabled Speed Dial soon after utilizing Opera some 9 years ago. But Sandboxie leaves my bookmarks list (accessible by tapping on the little yellow star) in 12.17 untouched.

Not a difficult decision for me to make between using 12.17 or 25. I'm very grateful to the developers for my favorite browser: Opera 12.17.

Only now did I discover that you can edit your post by clicking -or tapping if you use a touchpad as I do- on the little gray cog wheel on the left...

I'm glad to see so many like Opera 25.

I just ran speed a test with a simple kitchen timer measuring only whole seconds. To see how long from hitting the Opera 12.17 icon on my task bar to my www.startpage.com and the same with Opera 25.
The results using Sandboxie and not using it:

Opera 12.17
unsandboxed: 4 seconds.
Sandboxed: 6 seconds.

Opera 25 unsandboxed: 8 seconds.
Sandboxed: 14 seconds.

Once on my www.startpage.com start page I typed in "google".
The page with Google as the top link appeared after 2 seconds in Opera 12.17 and after 1 second in Opera 25.

I repeated each test a few times.

Sandboxie deletes the bookmark blocks in Speed Dial after closing Opera 25. So unless you surf unsandboxed in 25 your Speed Dial bookmarks will not be there the next time.

I'm not sure how that works in Opera 12.17 Speed Dial sandboxed, as I disabled Speed Dial soon after utilizing Opera some 9 years ago. But Sandboxie leaves my bookmarks list (accessible by tapping on the little yellow star) in 12.17 untouched.

Not a difficult decision for me to make between using 12.17 or 25. I'm very grateful to the developers for my favorite browser: Opera 12.17.

@mistromar,

I was able to import my bookmarks from Opera 12.17 to 25, although they still are in a Imported Bookmarks folder. By clicking on them I get to their respective websites. Once there I can save them as a new bookmark in 25.

Not too much work... ; )

Again, it's only that I've never liked nor used Speed Dial. A nice uncluttered landscape with only the search bar near the top I like much better. (Bing looks great to me although I don't use it much.)

I like the little bookmark star and list that opens when you click on it. I wonder how people quickly find their bookmarks when they have a few dozen of them in Speed Dial... it takes some scrolling down the page and looking around. That's not for me.

Opera 25 did not work with my Sandboxie -it only gave "about:blank" whatever I tried- so I uninstalled 25. But then I checked on the Sandboxie forum, and this issue was noted. Someone there suggested to use the latest Sandboxie version -4.13.7 (Beta)- and after installing that I'm glad to say it works fine with Opera 25.

I have set www.startpage.com as my default start page, and removed the bookmark blocks in Speed Dial -which I see when I open a new tab- because I don't like them. (I had to do that unsandboxed, otherwise they would appear again next time.)

So now I only see the transparent block in Speed Dial with the big + in it... I can live with that. But I've also set Opera to open the www.startpage.com page by typing in the top search bar "st".

So far so good. But I still am not getting how to see my bookmarks unless as those blocks in Speed Dial. That is the only thing I don't like. And only for that reason will I keep enjoying 12.17 and utilizing it instead of 25.

Opera 25 seems slightly faster, but the "bookmarks only on Speed Dial" issue makes me not mind to wait a few seconds longer before I see a website.

Cannot edit my above post, so:

I meant that I deleted Opera "updater" file.

But I'll download 25 from from Opera's site and allow Sandboxie to save it in my Downloads for the install.

If 25 would do anything funny to 12.17 -which I don't expect- a have a system backup + incremental ones -the latest one made recently- on an external drive...