Posts made by lancealot

@l33t4opera I wonder why this is not being done by default by Opera since they said they will continue to support V2 extensions. Secondly, how long before this run time option is removed completely and will not work?

@pilis00 said in Opera will always help you block ads natively:

Mozilla posted an article one month ago in which they again confirm they'll keep MV2 addons

It is for this reason that if Opera changes its mind about the continual support of MV2 (or at least the most popular MV2 extensions such as uBO) and dumps it, I will be moving to Firefox. We don't have much longer to go to find out how Opera will truly handle things when Chromium ends MV2 completely after June 2025.

@LayLayL : I guess we will have to wait and see in the coming days and weeks when they have time to talk with the selected extension developers what level of Manifest V2 will be supported beyond the June 2025 cut off date in Opera based on your assessment. You are correct in clarifying that the only thing mentioned in the post specifically that will work beyond the June 2025 cutoff date is their own native ad blocking. It did also say in the post that Manifest v2 will continue to work until they decide the best path forward, so I have to assume that decision will need to be made well before the June 2025 cut off date.

This is not negate the fact that Opera is the only Chromium based browser besides Chrome with a add-on store which would make it possible to distribute add-ons that support some form of Manifest V2 beyond the June 2025 cut off date. If I am incorrect about this, please feel free to correct me.

At this point Firefox has only said they have "no plans to deprecate MV2 and will continue to support MV2 extensions for the foreseeable future", and that if down the road they change their mind they would give at least 12 months notice to developers. So it sounds like Firefox has a wait and see approach also, but it sounds like it will extend well past the June 2025 Chromium cut off date. Firefox does have its own add-on store so it does have the ability to continue to support Manifest V2 in the same way Opera could if they decide to do so. I don't think Firefox is the only real alternative when it comes to the Manifest deprecation until Opera makes themselves more clear as to what level of Manifest V2 they plan on supporting beyond June 2025 in their browser and add-on store.

With that said, I do think Firefox is a great alternative if you're looking for a browser engine other then Chromium, and you want something that is Open Source based. Firefox mobile is also nice if you require the same plug-ins that work on the desktop to run on the mobile version, but at the cost of performance. In many users experience (including my own) they choose a Chromium based browser because of better performance and security, and choose a Chrome based alternative like Opera due to the great included features.

@healingcross316: Actually I see the opposite, when they update Chromium in a Opera release it is not always the latest Chromium version, which means they are backporting the security fixes into a older version which they had more time to test. They have said before themselves they backport fixes, and mention such instances from time to time (https://blogs.opera.com/security/2024/08/update-your-browser-security-fixes-for-latest-chrome-zero-day-cve-2024-7971/). It takes time for the upstream fixes to make it into all the Chromium based browsers, even for a big company like Microsoft and their Edge browser (I read their changelogs so I see the lag). If your really worried about being open to exploitation then you probably shouldn't be on the Internet since I can tell you no software is 100% secure, and there are always exploitations waiting to be discovered. The point is Opera does roll out security fixes as soon as possible based on needing to test for reliability, it is not like they are ignoring them completely as your insinuating.

@daria19: Great post about how Opera handles the Chromium updates. I always find it interesting how quickly users criticize Opera for not being on the latest Chromium version, without realizing it takes work on your end in ensure it doesn't totally break things by rolling it out too quickly. I know based on previous posts on this same topic that Opera will also prioritize pushing Chromium updates out as quickly as possible when major security issues are involved. I applaud the work you and Opera are doing considering how complex web browser are.

@max1c: In addtion to #use-angle, I also set #ignore-gpu-blocklist to enabled.

@max1c: Have you tried setting opera://flags/#use-angle to "D3D9". I found I have less display issues when I set it to that.

The most welcome news and feature from this update has to be that Opera R2 will continue supporting Manifest V2 extensions beyond the June 2025 cut off date. That is great news!!!

Bravo, well done, this is very big news that more Chromium users hopefully learn about. This makes Opera the only Chromium based browser that is committed and has the means to support Manifest V2 beyond the June 2025 cutoff. The reason it has the means is because Opera is the only Chromium browser besides Chrome that has its own addons store (https://addons.opera.com/en/) to continue to deliver Manifest v2 in an easy manner. This is another feature (among the many) that sets Opera apart from the rest of the Chromium browsers, and makes it the real alternative to Chrome.

@sicu220 said:

I can't close the tabs. The X button is not there.

I was having that issue myself with version 114.0.5282.21, but seems to have been fixed in 114.0.5282.86. So make sure you have at least version 114.0.5282.86 installed.

One work around I found when the issue exists is to mouse off the tab and mouse back over the tab again and the X would appear if it was missing the original time I mouse over the tab.

@derhimmelssheriff I agree, I am getting close to dropping Opera myself because the relentless bugs in each release is getting to be too much. The weird thing is I also use the Android Opera version and never have any issues, but the desktop Opera is a mess. I really wish they would concentrate on the bugs before releasing any new features. Will have to see how long my patience will last with these ongoing release bugs before I move to another web browser. You will have to update how Vivaldi is once you have more time to use it.

@derhimmelssheriff Yes, Windows 10.

Dragging a tab to a new Window crashes the whole browser in Opera 108.0.5067.20. Didn't happen in 107.

It is hard for me to recommend using Opera for desktop and mobile if sync is important to your experience. Sync is not reliable and buggy. For example a major bug with the tab sync has been around for over 2 years and is well known yet never gets fixed: https://forums.opera.com/topic/66966/compilation-devices-appear-multiplicated-in-opened-tabs-page

If Opera is serious about wanting users to use their browser on multiple devices and it be seamless, they need to work on improving and fixing the bugs with the sync.

@leocg: I only had 1 extension installed, and I disabled it and it made no difference. I am experiencing the same issue which didn't exist until I upgraded to Opera 105. Seems to be a display issue with making how it interacts with the GPU. I filed a bug report but probably going to need to downgrade to Opers 104 because it is usable in its current state. I upgraded to fix two of the bugs I was experiencing 104, and now I got 105 it is completely broken. This seems to happen just about every major version update now in days. Not sure how much longer I can use Opera if this continues.

@havokdan2: I am having the same exact issue. Major issue making the browser basically unusable so I hope there is a fix for this very soon.

When using any software you have to build a trust in it, and I trust Opera for the exact reasons explained in this article. Anyone that has any questions about trusting Opera or scared by the "Opera is owned by a Chinese company" smear campaign, should read this post before believing in any of the negativity being spread.

I additionally get tired of the commenters in various forums on the Internet that shoot back with the Opera being Chinese, so it must be bad. I agree with @leocg that you develop a trust with a software to feel comfortable using it. The reason why I trust Opera:

1. They have clearly outlined their stance when it comes to security and privacy in the links @leocg has provided.

2. Opera is still headquartered in Norway and therefore under European laws which are quite strict (more so then the US even) when it comes to privacy.

3. Opera is listed on the US Nasdaq stock exchange (ticker OPRA), and has actually done quite well over the last year even with the recent stock drop.

So my question is why wouldn't you trust the company when they clearly outline their privacy terms, they are under European laws, and lastly wouldn't want to tarnish their image which would directly hurt their stock price?

Those reasons alone are why I trust Opera and have used it for years. Users also have to remember they are a business and have to make money, so having things like Google being the default search engine, or adding features that feed their ad income is understandable, as long as those features can be disabled by the user instead of forced, which in most instances you can turn off in the Opera settings or advanced flags area if you would like.

So I am a happy Opera user, but I do hope they take the time to fix the bugs that get introduced in the newer versions, rather then rushing more new features before prior bugs are fixed. That would be my only complaint I have, but then again I understand why they have to keep the new features coming to stay relevant.

@leocg This issue has several forum posts, bug reports, and listed as a known issue for at least 1+ years. When is this known issue going to be fixed? If it is known by Opera developers, why are they not fixing such a major bug with an important functionality of Opera. I understand it takes time to get fixes in place and try to practice patience, but 1+ years seems like a long time for such a major issue.

This bug has been brought up in the forums in multiple places, and I have personally filed a bug report about this ongoing issue. This issue has existed for at least 1+ years I know of. This is a serious bug that makes the tab activity section unusable. I really hope this gets fixed at some point since it seems to be a known issue that never gets fixed for some reason.