Posts made by Denizen976

@yahgamer1
I have not found any solution yet. I haven't tested it in the most recent update, but I've been using all of the AI chats in individual tabs, and not using Aria as much.

I also updated to use Opera GX, on the thought that I could transfer over my existing windows and tabs, and be able to limit the amount of RAM that they take up.

I will move this content to a new forum/post... it's a rant on trying to save your session info, and transfer to Opera One GX, because:

• Let's you limit amount of ram taken up,
• Let's you import bookmarks
• Let's you create profiles...

https://forums.opera.com/topic/72245/rant-on-opera-one-opera-one-gx

Grrrr.

I recently tried to migrate from my pervious Opera One to Opera One GX ... Because...

• Let's you limit amount of ram taken up,
  Haven't tested yet
• Let's you import bookmarks
  Not on my computer
• Let's you create profiles...
  Pretty useless and awkward

I have moved the below content to here, because I was clotting up a post on Aria disappearing.

Transferred content:
I also updated to use Opera GX, on the thought that I could transfer over my existing windows and tabs, and be able to limit the amount of RAM that they take up. My results from that:

• I tried the concept of WorkSpaces in the original Opera One - I am less than satisfied. Spent a couple of hours trying to organize all of my tabs across 5 open windows, into themed workspaces in each window, then tried to move from that to each window having a single workspace. I lost workspaces in other windows, they didn't transfer correctly. Workspaces seemed associated with the original window, and when I thought I was cleaning out, moving to other workspaces in other windows, then closing the current window, it lost everything in the subsequent workspaces, and the tabs in that window, because: other windows are open, you've modded your session..

• No luck trying to save/export the many tabs across 5 windows. No way to "save all tabs as bookmarks". The best you can do with "save all tabs as SpeedDial". I don't know what that does for tabs in separate workspaces, but I'm guessing that you have to visit each workspace in each windows, and save all tabs from that workspace into a speeddial.

• There is NO good way to move contents of a speeddial into bookmarks.

• I wound up pushing all tabs from all 5 windows into Speed Dial entries, figuring that was the way to save my window tab content.

• External recovery MAY be possible: I basically have backed up files names "Tabs" and "Sessions", but it's approaching 8 MB of data, and I don't have the patience to go through it.

• I exported all bookmarks, and speed dials, and PW info, etc. From the Bookmark TAB (vs side menu access), it says that I can export bookmarks, as well as Speed Dials, etc.

• Import into Opera GX did not work, on any level. No sessions, no bookmarks, no speeddials... no PWs. Not happy, devs.

• Opera GX is supposed to get you have "Profiles". It almost kinda sorta does, but not in any useful way. You can force separate profiles as separate Opera Links - but there's no way to go to a specific profile, or switch to another profile from w/in GX. You basically have to PIN each "profile" to your (Windows) Start Bar, to be able to access them. Basically, I have 5 pinned "O"'s taking up room on the task bar... There's not enough contrast between the icon colors,. If you hover over the icon, after a few seconds, it will have a pop=up that tells you what you named that "profile", but it's super tiny.

This is substandard design, substandard UI, and a substandard "features list" - as most of what I'm tried has failed, and I've lost work.

@mouldy-cheese Yes, it's needs a freshened LLM behind it.
They should either fix the bias to be balanced/un-biased, or give a switch/setting that let's users turn the liberal temperature down.

@thedoubletap First, thank you for documenting so well. Second, you're a brave person (Using Edge). Third...
I guess I don't really have a third, but I will echo - Opera needs some serious work.

Let me tell you about my divorce because of Opera...

I am a bad browser. I will have many, many tabs open. Some will be in Tab Islands. Many of those will be there accidentally. Other, related tabs, will be off on their own, in shark infested waters, I guess.
I will wind up opening additional windows, thinking this will help me organize... i.e.,

• email-related tabs wind up at one side of one window... but every link clicked on, winds up in that same window.
• Another window will have tabs to AI image generation, AI chats, AI news, and random links from those tabs.
• Another window will have social media things
• Another window will have other technical, programming, etc.
• Aaand another one will have electronics, etc.

I usually wind up with links spread sporadically across all of them... all windows will have some YT video, the Social Media one will have login tabs for banking or AI chat. The AI one will have tabs for "X", it's all just 'orible.

My memory is full. I mean, really full. Like, 10 pounds of manure in a 4 pound sack, full. 471 tabs across 5 windows? Oh... not counting the Private window.

And periodically, I try to at least inventory. I can't save a window's worth of tabs, like in any regular browser. No. I have to save a windows worth of tabs to a speed dial. That's it's own type of insanity.
"But that's OK, because you can just move speed dials to bookmarks!" Argh. That's total insanity.

Although... I did (just) learn that I can open a bookmarks TAB, and, I can export the whole shebang to a file and edit it IN an external text editor, to get my bookmarks from the speed dial tabs.

Insanity.

So, I figure I'll try Workspaces again. Tried 'em before, didn't understand the concept, so, quit. Read a bit on it, "maybe workspaces can be used kind of like profiles!"

Spend hours (sob) setting up workspaces for the organization I was trying to get. I'm thinking, "Hey, I know it's not really documented WHY they are or WHAT they do, but somebody said this worked for them..."

I should have inventoried everything before I started - but I was brave - and besides, I was maybe a hours away from Opera expiring on it's own and being so full of tabs that it takes 20 minutes to reopen.

Set up 5 general workspaces, to generally match what should have been organized in the windows, but hey, I'm not that good.

Spend hours weeding through and sending tab islands to the proper window, and assigning to specific workspaces. Hey, I'm beginning to like the idea!

Wow, got all Social stuff with all email stuff with ... basically, any signin not otherwise aligned.

Got all my AI stuff declared to the AI workspace and in the same window.

Etc., etc.

I'm keeping an eye on my memory... it's inching higher still... the Opera windows freeze for a few seconds in between operations... the outlines haunting me like ghosts. Reproachful ghosts.

Okay, time for the big experiment. Close two windows... memory comes down. Close the media/email one... memory goes down. Close the tech/battery/whatever window. Only AI left open. Cool!

If Workspaces work the way described, I should be able to shut Opera down, bring it back up, and go to any workspace, retrieve all the tabs saved to that workspace, in the last state, log-ins and all, and be merrily on my way using oh... 30% of the memory I was?

Open Opera. Ok. AI tabs. Now. Open a fresh window, and Click another workspace.
Nothing.
Nothing?
nothing!?
A different workspace. A couple of tabs. Correct topics, but only 5 or 7 out of the 60 or so that were assigned to that workspace?!
A different workspace. Nothing.

I'm not against grown men showing emotion. I cry when dogs die. I shed a tear for friends who have passed. I sniffle over how much I love my kids.

Opera has caused a grown man to break down in sobs of agony, writhing on the floor, kicking the computer desk, over turning the chair, causing his wife to come running to see what happened.... all she sees is a grown man weeping openly, tearing out great handfuls of his hair.

"Who died?! What great tragedy has befallen us?!!" She's starting to get frantic, tearing up, expecting the worst, ready to rend her garments and join her husband in whatever fresh hell has been visited upon our family! "What is it, husband mine?"

"Opera," I manage to whisper, croaking out the cause of my pain, through cracked lips. "It's... Opera."

She's confused. She's wondering if it's a tragic opera I'm comparing life to.

She is wondering if we're broke, destitute, penniless, if we'll be cast out into the snow next month (We're in May, in the 35th degree latitudes... it'll be hot soon).

"My browser crapped out, I lost all my hard-won tabs. It's gone. It's all gone." (For me, "crapped out" is pretty strong language, in front of my wife.)

She knows beans about my computer. Or my browser. And I should probably delete my history, but anyway.

"What?" She's still concerned, but now she's concerned about if it would be considered justifiable homicide, and, if she can get the blood stains out, could she turn the room into a sewing room or something.

Okay... it turns out I didn't divorced. Only a broken arm and a couple bruises.

But I blame it all on Opera.

@dutchharry Oooohhh... Ouch!
Devs, you're letting us down!

You can do that. IF I remember, I can do that... but the 99.999% of the other Opera users? Shucks.
Then, again, probably only a few percent bother with Aria, and a percentage of those care about saving convos, and a percentage of those would understand how to do it, and well, only you, @DutchHarry, will repeatedly remember how and do it.

@leocg I finally got back to you:

Opera One(version: 106.0.4998.41)
Update stream:Stable
System:Windows 10 64-bit
Chromium version:120.0.6099.217

There is an update to .52, but I don't know what's in the change log.
Opera just died and I restarted it, and it didn't apply the update, so when I shut down tonight, I'll do a force-update.

And, it happens randomly - always starts with Aria, and at some point, it just disappears, whether I've used it or not.

The last time it disappeared, I discovered the "Aria Command Line" option in the window menu. I thought "maybe that will bring back the sidebar item..."
It totally tanked Opera! It would be funny, but I think I lost an email I was composing - although Gmail was supposed to be handling the draft backups.

@leocg Right.
But I turn it on, and make use of Aria, and use other tabs, and at some point, it gets turned off (not by me) and the sidebar option disappears.

That's the thing... it disappears, and the option is off.

Aria is disappearing randomly.

Checking settings, "Aria In the sidebar" is set to OFF.

Turning it back on, and restarting fixes the problem, and it's fine for a while, but eventually, it disappears again.

The sub-option for Aria remains set.
The two additional options I've set (ChatGPT and ChatSonic" remain set.
"Tixxer in the side bar" remains set.

@tronk1it 42

@youngkingz27 It could be the way that you're crafting your prompts. Some times you have to try re-wording what you're asking, to get better results.

I don't think that their design is good for overall usability. Graphically, it's difficult for some people, and the UI could use some better functionality.

@garysloop But I'll bet that it returns much better answers when you give it better prompts.

(On the phone at least) Try AIDungeon.

@rrsch I don't have a Mac, but on Windows Opera, there are two mechanisms that can give full screen effect.

One is "maximize window" [ square box, one of the symbols at the upper-righthand corner of the application], which retains all of the frame features, but just takes up the whole monitor for the main application window.

F11 (which I have only done accidentally, as I'm a clutter nerd) gets rid of everything but applicable scroll bars.

I don't know if Macs even have "F" keys... for us, it's a separate row of function keys above the regular number keys on the keyboard.

@rrsch I may not be on the right path, but, have you tried F11?

It's probably not the ultimate solution, but, for me it throws Opera into full screen mode, which also obliterates the frame elements, including URL bar, bookmarks, etc. I retain the scroll bar.

The tabs disappear, but if I use CTRL-Page Up / CTRL-Page Down, I can cycle across tabs adjacently.

F11 again returns from that mode.

@blindrock Yes, the "current issue" is "solved".
What hasn't been solved is:
Where was this initiated?
Why was it initiated?

Maybe I'm just not seeing the underlying problem? But I think it's pretty straightfoward:
"When searching for something directly from the address bar, ..."
If the user types in Bing.com, and Opera redirects to ysrcunow that is a serious breach of trust.
The user does not appreciate receiving the wrong domain name.

My solution wouldn't be a problem with certificates, because it would just be in the hosts file. But, my solution wouldn't work, because (AFAIK), you can't ricochet host name to host name in the hosts file, just host name to IP.

While they say it's fixed, the larger questions still loom.

@leocg General Feedback, this is Corporal Punishment!

I need to report bad graphic design!

This is for the Opera Devs or the management of the Opera Devs:
Can you guys get some graphics designers on staff? You need their help badly. Heck, we need their help, goodly.

Seriously: How are we supposed to read this? I can't even see it:

Multiple have complained about the UI for usability., but now it's not even readable by some of us. Give us a break, please. Please pay attention to the design elements.

Hey! This is just text! What happens if we use the mouse to select the text? Will that give us nice contrast, making it readible? Erm... no.

@kintala Are you using any extensions?
If so, try disabling them all, and re-enabling one at a time, two at a time, etc..

Also, check other settings (javascript, etc.) and test turning on/off:
And test from Private window, with/without VPN, Ad blocker, tracker blocker, etc.

Lastly, if nothing else works, you can try something weird like right-clicking on the YT page where the comments SHOULD show up, and looking at "inspect element".

That's getting a bit into the weeds, but it might give some clues later on.

@myswtest I haven't mucked about in hosts in a long, long while...
After reading your post, my first thought was "why not just use Hosts to redirect yscunow to Bing - but then I wondered if that would set up a loop... "Bing.com -> yscunow -> bing.com -> Yscunow -> No_i_said_bing.com!! -> Yeah_but_yscunow!..." [plus, you'd have to have an IP for Bing, and that's probably not going to be a simple static IP...]

I'm concerned as to where, exactly, the substitution is being done.

If they (Opera) are snatching your URL request and replacing it, that's really not kosher., and I would be really pissed off at this behaviour.

If it's being done through some config/JSON files, at least that would be something we could look at, and maybe figure out and play Hobb with - only slightly better than it all being done behind the curtain.

Both are considered borderline evil, in my book.

@eaer Ahhhh Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!

Why?

Do some testing...
All sites? A particular site? Sites in specific country or from specific country?
Try with and without VPN, just as an experiment.
Also, try it in Private mode.

And, just because we're being exhaustive,
Try accessing with and without : Ad blocking; with and without : Tracker blocking, with and without Javascript.

Not sure, but I would think that the best way would be:
Private Window, with VPN, with Ad blocking, with Tracker blocking

No. Really. Why?
[I xn'rt figure out the (&)(&H smileys in this editor!]

@kotobormot Not sure exactly what the context is of what you're trying to do.

Aria seems a bit limited in reaching out to web pages, although I have good results with it referencing web pages as supplemental to questions I ask.

There are lots of other extensions/plugins for Chrome / Opera that can probably help with that.

There are some other AI engines that will extract / summarize content from web pages / PDFs. A lot of engines claim to let you "talk to a pdf".

Do perform testing tho', as, while Opera claims to run Chrome extensions, there may be some settings that need to be tweaked to get the best performance. One of my favorite extensions, Harpa, interacts pretty easily with web pages, and can use multiple engines on the backend, as well as let you "program" workflow and tasks within it.

I ran into some problems on one of the pages I was trying to work with, and wound up retiring to Chrome for a week while I tried to figure things out, and, joining the Discord server for HARPA, where I learned about needing to adjust settings and whatnot.

Harpa can use ChatGPT 3.5, OpenAI API key (to get other ChatGPT models) Bard, and Claude,

There are a number of baked in workflows that can be called directly from the Harpa interface, and you can tweak/create your own, if you have additional workflows you are trying to achieve.