@ BlackBird71
Yes, I only mentioned it as there are a number of Opera fans of O5 thru O12... and the ex-founder is heading in the direction (some of us) wished Opera had gone.

I especially appreciated how he worded the presentation, "A Browser for our Friends".

As you can see, I don't come here to berate or complain about Opera, nor do I bother participating in the Blog any longer.

So all those Opera defenders about how coding is so hard, and just be patient - and how we only had to wait 18 months+ for any semblance of Bookmarks? Yeah I don't think so.

Although that is a little bit snarky. It comes from a place of sadness, disappointment and frustration at what all of us have lost. The community was gutted, all the Opera 12 (and prior) s Skins are gone. User feedback during this transition has mostly been ignored, unless it aligned with the "new Opera vision".

I recall one user posted (3-6 months prior to the switch to Blink), that Opera was going to switch to Webkit, and everyone thought he was a damned fool. Then the shock of O15, gutted just like the community was (months later). Many of us stuck around, believing that Opera would rise from the ashes. Only to be told time and time again, that few if any O12 features would ever make it back into the new browser. The demand for bookmarks in any way shape or form was rebuffed with "just use speeddial".

I switched to Firefox, some others went to Chrome, and some still primarily use O12.

The King is Dead! Long Live the King!

@ lando242, if you mean Vivaldi
The importer successfully pulled in IE Favorites, and FireFox bookmarks, for me.
I haven't tried Opera Bookmarks, but I don't have any in Opera-Blink, and my 12 years worth of Opera bookmarks are on an inaccessible desktop. It would be pretty easy to convert Opera 12's bookmarks to HTML if need be to import those...but I'll wait and see what extra fields were added to Bookmarks in Vivaldi (from what I've read it should be similiar to Opera 12, with descriptions, tags, etc).

Maybe the Opera Devs will surprise us, and it wont take as long as Bookmarks did.

Unfortunately the Opera Devs haven't surprised us, but Jon von Tetzchner certainly has.

Want to see Bookmarks done right?

Take a look at Jon von Tetzchner's (we know who that is right?) Vivaldi browser (technical preview)

Tetzchner has a 25 member team, half of them ex-opera employees, and they've put forth a better initial release of a Blink/Chromium browser than Opera ASA was able to manage with its 200+ developers.

Oh yeah, Tetzchner's given us tabs that stack, and can be placed on the left/right/top/bottom. A panel. Notes. Built-in email to come.

So all those Opera defenders about how coding is so hard, and just be patient - and how we only had to wait 18 months+ for any semblance of Bookmarks? Yeah I don't think so.

FireFox Nightly x64, and WaterFox x64 are passable (with about a dozen Addons). Although I will say I really like (actually it's awesome) how you can extend and modify the FF interface with normal CSS. e.g. Completely style all the varied Tab-states with CSS.

If Opera-Blink ever gets Vertical Tabs, it will be worth looking at bringing it back into regular usage beyond site-compatibility testing with Opera-Dev.

If Opera-Blink ever gets a Panel and a side(vertical) bar to put excess Extension icons somewhere else beyond the address-bar then it would likely become my primary browser again.

Maybe the Opera Devs will surprise us, and it wont take as long as Bookmarks did.

@leushino
Hardly whining, thanks. Was just pointing out that the "new" speed dial is not "light years" ahead of the old. As it merely has one feature that the prior incarnation does not, and none of the customization options.

@lem729
I gave up on Opera 12 about 5 months ago, primarily due to poor Javascript performance (CPU Usage) and bugs. Unfortunately nothing can really replace it.

Since I've used a different stand-alone eMail client essentially since forever, I've never employed M2 in Opera. But I do have to ask: what's wrong for current users to simply leave things as they are for eMail with 12.xx, even if they eventually cease using the browser section per se? That way, the "missing things" (like mouse gestures) in the Opera Mail stand-alone client would not be missing in the native browser 'original' of the same thing. If Opera Mail will never really be updated, a user simply using 12.16's built-in mail feature would be no worse off... or so it seems to me.

M2 has had quirks and buggy-behaviour (esp. with filtering) for years. When it was split off into a stand-alone app none of those issues got fixed and we all pretty much knew then that no new features would ever be added either.

Even when M2 was included with Opera it was the ugly step-child that rarely got any attention.

I had given up trying to find an M2 replacement, and was back on a combined GMail account for quite a while (at least 6+ months). Recently I tried 4 or 5 different mail clients again and found PostBox (as I noted in the other Opera Mail thread).

Light years ahead would of been if Opera had of used the same file-format for Bookmarks/SpeedDial/Stash, and

1. provided Bookmarks/SpeedDial/Stash VIEWS for your various "shortcuts".

2. Allowed for Multiple Stashes/SpeedDials/Bookmark-Roots.

As is, it's just the Opera12 SpeedDial with sub-folders and no customization options. When you add one feature and remove numerous other features that isn't "light years ahead", it's called a regression.

At least we have crippled Bookmarks now (no context menu, multi-select, tags, shortcuts, descriptions). Of course every time you open a bookmark sub-folder for the first time it defaults to 128x128px "icon" mode -- cuz that's useful.

Access to chrome extensions is hardly a bonus, it's a necessity... without extensions Opera-Blink would be useless. Opera 5 thru 12 on the otherhand...

I switched to PostBox; got two licenses for $13 - installable/useable on any machine you personally use (Mac|Win).
PostBox has conversation-view/threading like Opera-M2/Gmail, and most if-not-all M2 features; it's *actively developed and less buggy/quirky than M2. PostBox appears to be based on FF-core as modified Firefox/Thunderbird extensions can be installed :: Enigmail (PGP), GoogleCalendar, etc.

(*) M2 development is dead, has it even been updated since it's original stand-alone release? The certificate signing is from June 2013, so at least 16 months now.