Posts made by billslaststand

I'm a retired guy with a lot of time to 'tear and compare' [any old smokers will remember that cigarette cliche]. After my first shot at 23 I concluded it was a C/F. 'How could they DO this to me?' Prompted both by those of You far more experienced than I am, AND a desire to sleuth it out and do my Geezerly Damnest to understand what the heck was going on, I determined to really attack...in the Fall. Well, here at Bill's Last Stand I'm caught up on acreage management so last week I attacked it. I guess the only way you can know you are at the top of the curve is when the First Derivative is 'zero'... OR things are worse either going forward or falling back! For me, I'm there, using 12.17 as my Primary Browser and Chrome for 'those' THREE [of mine] pages that need 'Open with'.

I've used Opera for a decade-plus...and whilst I guess I can appreciate that the Norski's HAD to 'improve or perish', I'm darn sorry it was necessary to loose those 'little' things that made Opera...OPERA. Try as I have, I cannot, CANNOT, make Chrome, Safari, nor The Fox do them.

I'll continue to snoop this forum and a couple others, hoping to see where 23.x 'corrected' my little things. Until then I guess I'll just live here, at the top of MY curve, wish you all huge success's... and fade away. Aloha, Ciao, AMF............

Only idea I have is to remember 'KISS'...[Keep It Simple Stupid]. NO PERSONAL MESSAGE, TIM... JUST THE ACRONYM!!!

I've no love for version 23, but I have to admit it downloads perfectly for me, and installed my favorite YOU TUBE Downloader...which I use often to 'capture' the MP4 of some good music. I'm using version 23 to augment 12.17 and now as my You Tube MP4 downloader.

Maybe your various Malware Prevention Scheme(s) are your culprit. Here I run my browsers and E-Mail client in a sandbox..."Sandboxie" to be specific. I don't even have other prevention jazz installed.

My 'idea'......

Ahhhhhhhhhh.......[should have read your August 10 more closely]

Like you, I/We are slaves to a LOT of existing bookmarks that we actually use. As previously posted, for US the Bookmark Manager [and a couple Cookie Control Tweaks] are the reason we left FireFox several years ago. That said, there ARE a small group of URLs that when opened in Opera, SOME part just doesn't work right. I've created a Bookmark Sub-Folder for those, so that when I open one in Opera 12.17, as soon as the main page snaps open, I automatically do the 'Open With...' to continue. I've been using Chrome for that, although Firefox...for that matter [spit] I.E. would let me finish my business. After being reminded that Opera 23.0 is [I guess] totally separate from 12.17...I have been using IT for the 'Open With...' URLs in the 'problem' subfolder. Seems to work fine, and since my Sandboxie [VM] forces "opera.exe"... either version opens in the sandbox. While I am certainly not happy with 23.0 AS IT STANDS ALONE, at least running it as Secondary lets me 'keep an iron in the fire' and my nose in the air to sniff when the Sons of Norway make 23.x to my liking.

You might try it this way. Unless you like tearing your eyeballs from their sockets watching a bunch of bookmarks scroll by... OR, it is possible F/F has altered THEIR 'manager? I don't know that [nor care to find out]

Good Luck

B

Thanks, once again. I was afraid you'd say that. I had hoped there was a stone I had not looked under!

Nope. Not going to get into the Add-On/Extension chase. [Did some of that on my week-end practice run....Bahhh]

Until OPERA comes out with a nice clean 'better version'...there's not enough ski's in Norway to make me switch from 12.17 to 23.0 !

But everybody needs a hobby and the better informed than me can 'play' with 23.0...etc.

Thanks again for being nice...

Bill

Thanks for the reply. From my 'practice run' that feature cleans out ALL local data. There are three cookies I usually keep, and THEN click the 'Delete New Cookies...' box. Nice touch. An arm load of crap caught running around the 'Net, all gone in a flash. But not my "OLD" cookies!

Oh, well.... TNX AGN

Spent a lot of the past weekend on a spare WIN7 computer, trying to get 23.0 usable for us. It's still a struggle with the bookmark issue, but I never found a way to have OPERA 23.0 automatically [non-manually] delete new cookies...when I close it. Maybe I missed that ability?

If THAT is supposed to be 'obsolete'....FUBAR

OH! No complaints nor ill will from here... that's for sure............

It IS a great day. A tad warm but for here at My Last Stand, but the Summer-Folk are no doubt enjoying it.

Well, I'm an old electronics technician and frankly I don't mind chasing and trying anything. Heck, worst thing that can happen is I run my Recovery DVD set....again. My operating problem is across the room. I only run what SHE does so I can answer her questions, etc. IF OPERA doesn't crank out a 'like old times' bookmark Add-On, when snow flies I may well try what you suggest on MY machine. My reference to FireFox was either dirt under my fingernails or a 'leap to conclusion' since I see the latest and greatest F/F uses the same Open Source browser grit that Chrome does; fergive me.

Fun-n-Games, I guess. You must be a 'man of leisure', too...to haunt these Forums and type as much as you do.

Ooops...'Happy Hour' time.....!

Thanks for your effort, Lem. I HAD NOT thought of applying Chrome [or Firefox] extensions to OPERA 23.0. Like when I upgrade to a new Ferrari, I expect it to come with wheels as well as a V-12 engine! All kidding aside, comparing the search, install, learn of Add-Ons...with "Manage Bookmarks"? I admit that while I follow your excellent tutorial, I have NOT done it. I wonder how the managed book-marks are presented 'your' way? One of the super features 'We' love is the 'panel' method that 12.x uses to present the bookmarks. Stable 'panels' are MUCH easier on 'experienced' eyeballs than miles of scrolling...as was FireFox before I found OPERA! It is not unusual for Mrs. Bill to go to her bookmarks, click Gardening folder...click Blueberry sub-folder...click Methods of Mulch subfolder...THEN click 'Open All Folder Items'. Maybe you can see what I'm up against! If your Add-On method will actually accommodate HER need, I may well try it.

Once again, thanks for your time. I'm a lousy typer, so I know it can take time to produce what you have....

B

Well, Lem...from 1305 posts you either know a lot, or certainly have 'experience'. That said, for THIS HOUSE, the Bookmark Manager IS what sets OPERA apart from, say, Firefox. Not too sure who "Most Users" are...but they ain't US.

Cheers-n-Beers

Well Linux, I tried it...Since the Master Book Mark Panels remain in 12.17, we gotta START from there, and as a 'Open With', Chrome seems just as good as OPERA 23.0... or at least I'm more familiar with the settings.

So... it still looks like '12.17' until I hear of Chris's posting coming true...

T'anks, tho............

GREAT news, Chris...I'll be watching for it.

Linux....y'know, I never thought of that !! I will give her a go. I had found/realized 23.0 was totally independent of 12.17.

Thanks....

Bill

My wife and I have been OPERA users for over a decade. Best browser, period. Especially for us, who each have a PC, and a B'Zillion bookmarks! Admittedly, there are occasional URLs OPERA has a problem with; that's what that delightful little [right click > "Open with...{Chrome, here}] is for !!

We understand it is a great idea to cure that occasional problem, but.................at what cost?

Sincerely hope OPERA will somehow blend the traditional, amazing, powerful, OPERA bookmarks manager into version 23.0 and on. It bothers us none that 23.0 looks like Chrome or the newer Firefox; it bothers us a HELLUVA lot that our [blush] hundreds of bookmarks would have to be incorporated into 'Speed Dial' Until then, frozen at 12.17