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@jayfreddy
Yea, not using the side bar. I and probably every one else here are referring to the speed dial button that was right next to the URL box. There are currently 8 Yay New icons next to the url bar. All new crap nobody uses, but they removed the one that people DID use, which was the speed dial.

Upgrades are faster better faster better so much faster so much better. Only it seems like every upgrade they take away something that I was using, and replace it with something I dont want to use. I have been using opera since the 90s. Now the same thing I have been doing for the last 20 years is impossible, doesnt work right, or my computer is now somehow too slow. It seemed to work fine before you guys "fixed" it.

This is turning into the plumber coming to fix the pipes. He will make everything so much better. But he actually breaks what was previously working, aint good enough to fix it, and disappears. This upgrade crap is how a bunch of computer guys want to hold onto their jobs forever. They are fixing it and making it so much better. Only it doesnt run as good as it used to, and all the minor cosmetic changes are like bad art work. Painting smiley faces over the Mona Lisa because its old and stupid apparently.

Hey,

My computer just rebooted and an update was installed. The tab horizontal scrollbar is open and now whenever I click on a tab it automatically scrolls away from the current tab I am using all the way back to the very first tab.

I noticed opera developer has been doing this for about a month as well, but now opera beta is doing the same thing. Is there any way to stop this and revert to the old behavior? Perhaps have the tab scrollbar stop wherever the current open tab is? I think that is what it did before the recent update.

Thanks guys, any help is greatly appreciated

If you right click on the horizontal scrollbar, there is a new option there for left edge and right edge. I would bet someone left some code in there that automatically scrolls back to the left edge in certain conditions, and they didnt have enough tabs open to notice it was scrolling away from the tab that was open.

If you open a tab that is not on the current horizontal scrollbar screen (ie you have to scroll to get there), it should not automatically scroll to the first tab (or left edge) it should put the open tab in the middle of the horizontal scrollbar, or the right edge if there are none to the right of it.

I have been using ctrl+~ to try and get it to scroll back to the last tab when it auto jumps to the left edge, but it doesnt always work. Sometimes it is hard to find where the tab is on the scrollbar. Disclaimer I have a lot of tabs open.

It didnt used to do this though. Whatever the behavior was before this was fine. It was working fine in Opera beta, but broken in Opera Developer. Then they updated Opera beta in August and it was broken in both and has been ever since.

@mormani
Ahoy! Thanks for the response I see it is working. I went to settings and it is under start page/show start page button. Cool man they removed the button I did use and replaced it with a bunch of buttons I dont use. I was using alt+home and that worked but it is a bit nicer to have the old button. Really appreciate it!

Now the only problem I am struggling with is with a lot of tabs the tab bar scrolls all the way back to the first tab when I change tabs. This bug has been in opera dev for a while too. I hit ctrl+~ to go back to the last tab, but it doesnt always scroll back to the one I want and I have to manually scroll around to find the tab I am looking for. Wouldnt have been a problem if it didnt auto-scroll back to the first tab. Doh. Somebody else has to have noticed. But things are a lot better than they were for a while there.

@burnout426
Ahoy man thanks for responding so fast. I didnt mention I am using opera next or opera beta instead of opera stable. I just went to the opera next folder and used that one and it worked. The last two custom searches I created a while ago were missing but the rest were there. Thanks for helping man. Also the search bar on the speed dial has returned which I also wanted back.

Quick question though, mouseover isnt working every time for some reason. Its not completely broken but kinda sometimey. Any info about that?

The last minor issue was the speed dial icon next to the address bar is really blurry. This is kind of recent like someone changed the icon. When you open the speed dial in a tab, the speed dial icon on the top of the tab is not blurry like still the same as the original one. Is there a quick kind of fix for this?

Thanks again man. I been using opera for over 20 years now. Still the best. I actually liked it better before they switched to all the chome stuff.

@burnout426
Ahoy burnout!

Aye thanks again man for this post and the other one showing me how to restore from the session file. It was right on time because I was trying another (I better not all cap that for emphasis I might get banned again) tab extension that doesnt seem to work properly.

https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/save-tabs/

This thing started closing down all my tabs while freezing opera every couple seconds. I tried to stop it but every time opera would unfreeze it would close a couple more tabs. I eventually had to ctrl+alt+delete and force close the Opera process. I had recently saved my tab session having read your previous post here

https://forums.opera.com/topic/68959/where-are-opera-tabs-and-tab-groups-stored

One thing to note is that you can not save the current session file while Opera is running. That file is locked somehow and you cant do anything to it. You can only save the previous two session files. One of those files should be an exact copy of the current session so it should be ok. There are normally three there including the current one from what I have seen. I saved away both the Session_ and the Tabs_ files earlier that day.

I restored those files from backup and all the tabs came back but I couldnt see the webpages themselves. It seemed like opera was still partially frozen. I think it was something weird with the previous crash. There was also an opera update waiting. So I launched the update, restarted Opera and then the tabs restored from the backup session. That happened just last night so I can mostly confirm that restoring those session files should work.

So yea go to opera://about and it will give you the path of your opera folder. Go there, then the Default folder, and in the Default folder the Sessions folder. Note that you want the Profile path or the one that says "roaming" in the path, not the one that says "local". On my machine (I use opera next also called opera beta) this path was

C:\Users\ [username] \AppData\Roaming\Opera Software\Opera Next\Default\Sessions

I put the Session_ files and the Tabs_ files in a folder named opera.tab.backup.6.20.2024. I also moved that folder into a separate directory in case something goes wrong with opera and it over-writes the directory somehow. I figure if you backup like that periodically you will not have to worry about catastrophic data loss, only the tabs you opened since the last backup, which sucks but is more reasonable than losing everything. So save the session whenever you are doing something important and that seems like it should save you from catastrophic data loss.

Also I see a couple tools that might be able to read the snss session files. It would be really nice if that file was in plain text so that if I wanted to, for example, go through all of my many tabs and pick and choose which to close with checkboxes I could do so. Doing this through the UI tab interface is slow, clunky, and difficult. I would like a page where I can scroll through a long list of my tabs and see the title of the page, the URL, and an optional screenshot of the webpage itself. And from there I can click a checkbox and close multiple tabs at once instead of one by one. I wouldnt mind that on the speed dial under the news. Most other solutions only give the option to close all tabs or leave them all open which is why there tends to be so many open. There is no reasonable way to directly manage this.

The best solution I have found otherwise is the Easy Tab Manager extension located here.

https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/easy-tab-manager/

It shows the entire list of tabs by name, you can hold control and click on multiple tabs you want to close, and then close maybe 5-10 at once instead of painfully scrolling around and closing them one by one. However if you try to close a lot like 20-50 at a time it might freeze on you and just not close anything.

Yea I think its kind of unreasonable that the official stance on tab management is "just close all those tabs and shut up." While the developers spend a huge amount of time rounding off all the corners, and with the recent update putting emoji's on the top of every tab wtf? Tab islands were a decent idea, but never worked right and scrolled your tab list around automatically making you lose your current tab position. Which is a big problem when you have a lot of tabs open. "Ctrl ~" will go back to the previous tab, but sometimes you need more functionality than this.

Not perfect, but at least now you can avoid catastrophic data loss.

Good luck!