Site (chase bank) specific user agent

bbildman

bbildman

"Anyway these companies are taking this security thing too far, and its based on popularity >"

to a point, maybe, but old Opera (which I LOVE) at this point has not been updated for a LONG time, and that means security protocols, and other stuff. O12 is a dying breed, and one day we will all have to migrate to other browsers. I have SO many problems with graphics, videos, reading comments on news pages that will not display etc etc that I have been forced to move to O29, as often as not when using O12, and I get to a page that does not display correctly (or like this Chase thingee) I have to do an right click and "Open With New Opera" to see that page (I have both versions on my laptop).

yes, sad but true.

davehawley

davehawley

That's the first time I've ever heard of someone saying that they won't support Internet Explorer!
:cheers:
You could try the user agent spoofing trick I detailed here.
You never know, it might work for this site too!

Still in mourning for Opera 12.........

laingman

laingman

"Anyway these companies are taking this security thing too far, and its based on popularity >"
to a point, maybe, but old Opera (which I LOVE) at this point has not been updated for a LONG time, and that means security protocols, and other stuff. O12 is a dying breed, and one day we will all have to migrate to other browsers. I have SO many problems with graphics, videos, reading comments on news pages that will not display etc etc that I have been forced to move to O29, as often as not when using O12, and I get to a page that does not display correctly (or like this Chase thingee) I have to do an right click and "Open With New Opera" to see that page (I have both versions on my laptop).
yes, sad but true.

I wouldn't mind opening opening some sites in new opera. Do you mind sharing the command you use to edit the right click menu? Do you have to keep changing it for each new version of opera, or you just stick with one. My real preference would be to be able to open new opera in a tab, but I have not seen any thing like that.

laingman

laingman

That's the first time I've ever heard of someone saying that they won't support Internet Explorer!

You could try the user agent spoofing trick I detailed here.
You never know, it might work for this site too!

I will certainly try that spoof trick and report back. But the funny thing is they so concerned about the keeping out the bad guys, they lock out their own customers. I told them I would change banks before I switch to another browser

davehawley

davehawley

I wouldn't mind opening opening some sites in new opera. Do you mind sharing the command you use to edit the right click menu? Do you have to keep changing it for each new version of opera, or you just stick with one. My real preference would be to be able to open new opera in a tab, but I have not seen any thing like that.

The right click menu should display all the browsers that you have installed on the system.
It picks that information up from a registry entry.

Still in mourning for Opera 12.........

bbildman

bbildman

Dave,

"You could try the user agent spoofing trick I detailed here.
You never know, it might work for this site too!"

I actually have that spoof in my override.ini file for O12.17 and it does no god insofar as logging on to the Chase site.

Re IE, you know that IE is not longer going to be updated, nor distributed with Windows into the future, they are discontinuing it.

"Following several months of rumors, Microsoft officially revealed Project Spartan — their new web browser — during the Windows 10 announcement on January 21, 2015. Spartan is the reason the Internet Explorer team went quiet during the past fifteen months after IE11 was released."

bbildman

bbildman

"I wouldn't mind opening opening some sites in new opera. Do you mind sharing the command you use to edit the right click menu? Do you have to keep changing it for each new version of opera, or you just stick with one. My real preference would be to be able to open new opera in a tab, but I have not seen any thing like that."

If you simply install O29 while O12 is still installed, then the right click
"Open With" in Opera 12 will automatically display IE and (New) Opera as possible browsers to open in.

davehawley

davehawley

I actually have that spoof in my override.ini file for O12.17 and it does no god insofar as logging on to the Chase site.
Re IE, you know that IE is not longer going to be updated, nor distributed with Windows into the future, they are discontinuing it.
"Following several months of rumors, Microsoft officially revealed Project Spartan — their new web browser — during the Windows 10 announcement on January 21, 2015. Spartan is the reason the Internet Explorer team went quiet during the past fifteen months after IE11 was released."

That's a shame, but it was only a long shot!
I was aware that IE was not going to be included with Windows 10, although I will be interested to see whether "Project Spartan" is going to be a lot different.
I don't like the implication of the name they've chosen, it implies that it's going to be pretty "bare bones"!

IMO despite its imminent demise it's still far too early for any site to even be considering dropping support for IE, and I'm amazed to hear that anyone has!

Still in mourning for Opera 12.........

laingman

laingman

Can't we just change the browser id to the same as new opera is using: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/43.0.2351.3 Safari/537.36 OPR/30.0.1835.5 (Edition developer)

Compare that to this: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64) Presto/2.12.388 Version/12.17

bbildman

bbildman

Can't we just change the browser id to the same as new opera is using: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/43.0.2351.3 Safari/537.36 OPR/30.0.1835.5 (Edition developer)

Ok, laing, I will try that, but first, school me on how to implement and I will report back as to whether it works or not.

Thanks

I am still using O12.17, supplemented by O29 (S L O W L Y I am using it more and more as I learn all the tricks - like I did originally with O12), there are just too many things I like about 12.17 (especially the opera mail inclusion and the drop down search box that allows keywords to search on a specific site)

laingman

laingman

Can't we just change the browser id to the same as new opera is using: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/43.0.2351.3 Safari/537.36 OPR/30.0.1835.5 (Edition developer)

Ok, laing, I will try that, but first, school me on how to implement and I will report back as to whether it works or not.
Thanks
I am still using O12.17, supplemented by O29 (S L O W L Y I am using it more and more as I learn all the tricks - like I did originally with O12), there are just too many things I like about 12.17 (especially the opera mail inclusion and the drop down search box that allows keywords to search on a specific site)

I just copied form new opera id and pasted into custom user agent field in the old one. Maybe it will help for some sites

bbildman

bbildman

Thanks, but please you "copied the New opera ID" (where is that?), where did you copy it from....and how did you paste it into a "custom user agent field" (where is that?)...I have no idea exactly what you are describing...details please (no disrespect intended)

bbildman

bbildman

I installed the extension "User Agent Changer" to Opera 12.17, and tried using these IDs (from O29 "About" page)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/42.0.2311.90 Safari/537.36 OPR/29.0.1795.47

Chrome/42.0.2311.90 Safari/537.36 OPR/29.0.1795.47

Neither work on the Chase bank page for logins.

laingman

laingman

Well I am trying to figure out why Chase works on one computer and not the other. Only difference is one is one is windows 8 and the other is 8.1. Both are 32 bit version of opera

laingman

laingman

I installed the extension "User Agent Changer" to Opera 12.17, and tried using these IDs (from O29 "About" page)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/42.0.2311.90 Safari/537.36 OPR/29.0.1795.47
Chrome/42.0.2311.90 Safari/537.36 OPR/29.0.1795.47
Neither work on the Chase bank page for logins.

I am curious. Is this a new computer you are using? Did Chase use to work and stopped working?

bbildman

bbildman

I installed the extension "User Agent Changer" to Opera 12.17, and tried using these IDs (from O29 "About" page)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/42.0.2311.90 Safari/537.36 OPR/29.0.1795.47
Chrome/42.0.2311.90 Safari/537.36 OPR/29.0.1795.47
Neither work on the Chase bank page for logins.

I am curious. Is this a new computer you are using? Did Chase use to work and stopped working?

Laing, no this is NOT a new computer; and Chase was working perfectly until 2 days ago, then I got the circular login (send auth. code, enter code, back to loging page and over again). I ALSO got this using O29, but once I entered the code, it allow me entrance to my baking page, not so with O12.17.Chase works perfectly with O29 and IE.

laingman

laingman

I have a solution which is good enough, way better than leaving my beloved old opera to open in another browser. I tried the Kproxy method but kproxy does not work on some sites. I will post this in any relevant thread that has to do with incomparability/security issues.

Reguires installation of neptune: http://www.meadco.com/Neptune/About. I edited my right click menu to run a script so that I am now able to open all the sites with error 40 and even the Chase bank site in Internet Explorer Issues: Normally something about error running script and the url does not display in the address bar, just about blank. And I can't figure out how to bookmark page or use auto login (have to enter password manually). I got this script from one of the old button creator sites.

Here is the script:

Item, View in IE=Go to page, "javascript:(function(){if(location.protocol.match(/^(javascript|about|opera):$/i))return;var l=location.href;var t=(document.getElementsByTagName('title')[0]?document.getElementsByTagName('title')[0].text:l).replace(/</g,'<').replace(/>/g,'>');var w=window.open('','_blank');w.document.documentElement.innerHTML=''+t+' - using Internet Explorer renderingbody{margin:0;padding:0;overflow:hidden;}embed{border:none;}'})();",,"View in IE",View

athlonite

athlonite

Stop using an old outdated browser.. Your bank is only trying to protect you and itself from fraud by only supporting the latest security protocols available, O12.17 does not meet the minimum security requirements of your bank

laingman

laingman

Stop using an old outdated browser.. Your bank is only trying to protect you and itself from fraud by only supporting the latest security protocols available, O12.17 does not meet the minimum security requirements of your bank

Oh please, I said I don't like any of the new or supported browsers.

lando242

lando242

Then you will have to live with it. You can't drive around in a '53 Studebaker and then complain that it doesn't have air bags. Opera 12 hasn't seen a major update in something like 3 years. From a security perspective that ancient.