Site (chase bank) specific user agent

A Former User

So I have a windows laptop running windows 8 and a tablet with windows 8.1, both with opera 12.17 installed. I can sign into chase with the laptop but not on the tablet. It keeps saying don't recognize my machine and I have to enter verification code they send me. So it will not work with opera on the tablet, just same message over and over, but not problem with Internet Explorer. Any suggestion if its possible to change the user agent to get by this security stuff in opera? Changing Id in site preferences has no effect. Thanks

lando242

lando242

Chase tries to set a cookie so it can recognize you machine. If that cookie is being blocked then you run into that error. That could be the source of your issue.

A Former User

Chase tries to set a cookie so it can recognize you machine. If that cookie is being blocked then you run into that error. That could be the source of your issue.

Well I have not been able to figure it out. Tried changing all kinda cookie settings and browser id settings with no luck.

A Former User

I called Chase and all they would say is they don't support opera and telling me about all that other crap they do support

bbildman

bbildman

I hate to be the bearer of sad tidings, but I got a similar problem with O29, except when I entered the ID code, Chase let me in, and I have been able to login in subsequently.

HOWEVER, with O12.17, I have the exact same issue you do, and no matter what I tried, I went in circles, enter the code, it brings me back to sign in page, and over and over again. I called Chase (because I WAS able to login earlier this week) and they told me going forward they will support Chrome and Firefox, I asked about IE, they said also that IE would not be supported (though I managed to login with IE).

I tried everything, deleted all chase cookies, changed ID as Firefox,IE etc, same result

I believe Opera 12.17 and below is on its last legs, and soon we will not be able to use it for many many functions. I personally am migrating completely over to O29 and beyond (though I much prefer O12.17)

Sad day for old Opera users.

A Former User

I hate to be the bearer of sad tidings, but I got a similar problem with O29, except when I entered the ID code, Chase let me in, and I have been able to login in subsequently.
HOWEVER, with O12.17, I have the exact same issue you do, and no matter what I tried, I went in circles, enter the code, it brings me back to sign in page, and over and over again. I called Chase (because I WAS able to login earlier this week) and they told me going forward they will support Chrome and Firefox, I asked about IE, they said also that IE would not be supported (though I managed to login with IE).
I tried everything, deleted all chase cookies, changed ID as Firefox,IE etc, same result
I believe Opera 12.17 and below is on its last legs, and soon we will not be able to use it for many many functions. I personally am migrating completely over to O29 and beyond (though I much prefer O12.17)
Sad day for old Opera users.

I think some of this is just plain luck as to whether it works or not. It works fine on my laptop afterall. At first they thought I was complaining about explorer, seems like a lot of people having trouble with that too.
I had trouble with turbo tax this year too but I didn't try new opera to see if it worked.

Anyway these companies are taking this security thing too far, and its based on popularity

bbildman

bbildman

"Anyway these companies are taking this security thing too far, and its based on popularity >"

to a point, maybe, but old Opera (which I LOVE) at this point has not been updated for a LONG time, and that means security protocols, and other stuff. O12 is a dying breed, and one day we will all have to migrate to other browsers. I have SO many problems with graphics, videos, reading comments on news pages that will not display etc etc that I have been forced to move to O29, as often as not when using O12, and I get to a page that does not display correctly (or like this Chase thingee) I have to do an right click and "Open With New Opera" to see that page (I have both versions on my laptop).

yes, sad but true.

A Former User

That's the first time I've ever heard of someone saying that they won't support Internet Explorer!
:cheers:
You could try the user agent spoofing trick I detailed here.
You never know, it might work for this site too!

A Former User

"Anyway these companies are taking this security thing too far, and its based on popularity >"
to a point, maybe, but old Opera (which I LOVE) at this point has not been updated for a LONG time, and that means security protocols, and other stuff. O12 is a dying breed, and one day we will all have to migrate to other browsers. I have SO many problems with graphics, videos, reading comments on news pages that will not display etc etc that I have been forced to move to O29, as often as not when using O12, and I get to a page that does not display correctly (or like this Chase thingee) I have to do an right click and "Open With New Opera" to see that page (I have both versions on my laptop).
yes, sad but true.

I wouldn't mind opening opening some sites in new opera. Do you mind sharing the command you use to edit the right click menu? Do you have to keep changing it for each new version of opera, or you just stick with one. My real preference would be to be able to open new opera in a tab, but I have not seen any thing like that.

A Former User

That's the first time I've ever heard of someone saying that they won't support Internet Explorer!

You could try the user agent spoofing trick I detailed here.
You never know, it might work for this site too!

I will certainly try that spoof trick and report back. But the funny thing is they so concerned about the keeping out the bad guys, they lock out their own customers. I told them I would change banks before I switch to another browser

A Former User

I wouldn't mind opening opening some sites in new opera. Do you mind sharing the command you use to edit the right click menu? Do you have to keep changing it for each new version of opera, or you just stick with one. My real preference would be to be able to open new opera in a tab, but I have not seen any thing like that.

The right click menu should display all the browsers that you have installed on the system.
It picks that information up from a registry entry.

bbildman

bbildman

Dave,

"You could try the user agent spoofing trick I detailed here.
You never know, it might work for this site too!"

I actually have that spoof in my override.ini file for O12.17 and it does no god insofar as logging on to the Chase site.

Re IE, you know that IE is not longer going to be updated, nor distributed with Windows into the future, they are discontinuing it.

"Following several months of rumors, Microsoft officially revealed Project Spartan — their new web browser — during the Windows 10 announcement on January 21, 2015. Spartan is the reason the Internet Explorer team went quiet during the past fifteen months after IE11 was released."

bbildman

bbildman

"I wouldn't mind opening opening some sites in new opera. Do you mind sharing the command you use to edit the right click menu? Do you have to keep changing it for each new version of opera, or you just stick with one. My real preference would be to be able to open new opera in a tab, but I have not seen any thing like that."

If you simply install O29 while O12 is still installed, then the right click
"Open With" in Opera 12 will automatically display IE and (New) Opera as possible browsers to open in.

A Former User

I actually have that spoof in my override.ini file for O12.17 and it does no god insofar as logging on to the Chase site.
Re IE, you know that IE is not longer going to be updated, nor distributed with Windows into the future, they are discontinuing it.
"Following several months of rumors, Microsoft officially revealed Project Spartan — their new web browser — during the Windows 10 announcement on January 21, 2015. Spartan is the reason the Internet Explorer team went quiet during the past fifteen months after IE11 was released."

That's a shame, but it was only a long shot!
I was aware that IE was not going to be included with Windows 10, although I will be interested to see whether "Project Spartan" is going to be a lot different.
I don't like the implication of the name they've chosen, it implies that it's going to be pretty "bare bones"!

IMO despite its imminent demise it's still far too early for any site to even be considering dropping support for IE, and I'm amazed to hear that anyone has!

A Former User

Can't we just change the browser id to the same as new opera is using: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/43.0.2351.3 Safari/537.36 OPR/30.0.1835.5 (Edition developer)

Compare that to this: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64) Presto/2.12.388 Version/12.17

bbildman

bbildman

Can't we just change the browser id to the same as new opera is using: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/43.0.2351.3 Safari/537.36 OPR/30.0.1835.5 (Edition developer)

Ok, laing, I will try that, but first, school me on how to implement and I will report back as to whether it works or not.

Thanks

I am still using O12.17, supplemented by O29 (S L O W L Y I am using it more and more as I learn all the tricks - like I did originally with O12), there are just too many things I like about 12.17 (especially the opera mail inclusion and the drop down search box that allows keywords to search on a specific site)

A Former User

Can't we just change the browser id to the same as new opera is using: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/43.0.2351.3 Safari/537.36 OPR/30.0.1835.5 (Edition developer)

Ok, laing, I will try that, but first, school me on how to implement and I will report back as to whether it works or not.
Thanks
I am still using O12.17, supplemented by O29 (S L O W L Y I am using it more and more as I learn all the tricks - like I did originally with O12), there are just too many things I like about 12.17 (especially the opera mail inclusion and the drop down search box that allows keywords to search on a specific site)

I just copied form new opera id and pasted into custom user agent field in the old one. Maybe it will help for some sites

bbildman

bbildman

Thanks, but please you "copied the New opera ID" (where is that?), where did you copy it from....and how did you paste it into a "custom user agent field" (where is that?)...I have no idea exactly what you are describing...details please (no disrespect intended)

bbildman

bbildman

I installed the extension "User Agent Changer" to Opera 12.17, and tried using these IDs (from O29 "About" page)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/42.0.2311.90 Safari/537.36 OPR/29.0.1795.47

Chrome/42.0.2311.90 Safari/537.36 OPR/29.0.1795.47

Neither work on the Chase bank page for logins.

A Former User

Well I am trying to figure out why Chase works on one computer and not the other. Only difference is one is one is windows 8 and the other is 8.1. Both are 32 bit version of opera