Limiting the blow of the downgrade to new opera?
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classicgriff last edited by
I just did install opera19 (going from 12.x) and I have a hard time finding out how activate the following things (which I use quite heavily in O12), can someone please tell me how to get the following functionality back again (extensions would be fine if no other option exist) (* denotes things that used a hacky solution in O12).
And yes, I've been using Opera since MDI was a new feature.
How do I enable the following functionalities/features I have gotten used to in opera?
1) Quick Preferences (F12) - I use this extensivly to toggle javascript and plugins quickly (most missed feature)
2) Site preferences - more specifically to disable javascript on sites that hijack the keyboard (google being the main offender here) and enable javascript and plugins on the few sites I use where it actually is useful (have it enabled for exactly two sites in O12, and only one is owned by google, yahoo or microsoft)
3) Showing query information/right hand side of URI at all times - hiding this is akin to removing streetsigns and housenumbers with the motivation that "you can always ask" (third most missed feature), this is information that should be "glanceable"
4) Showing protocol - some sites I use has different data on their http and their https-servers (quite often an ironic spoof on the http)
5) Hiding favicons - rarely have few enough tabs open for them to show anyways
6) Putting the adressbar at the bottom of the browser - I prefer to have metadata here
7) Putting the "info bar" (hoover over information) at the bottom of the browser - more metadata, no dynamic UI
Showing the page title when opera is maximized - opera19 scaled to same size has an annoying habit of rescaling now and then in win79) Showing the menu bar again - Even if it only is "_F_ile"
10) Loading the old keybindings - especially having separate keys for navigating between links and forms, and for that matter using "4" to go to last used tab (second most missed feature (the 4 to go to last used tab))
11) Underscores in menus to indicate hotkeys
12) Not having to hit enter after using a hotkey in a menu - rightclick on link -> "t"
13) Having a new tab open on about:blank - not anything "panel"/quickdial or similar that never is used (btw, what is the point of panels for keyboard-users?)
14) Getting a nice white background instead of an image for opera special pages - if I wanted a background image I wouldn't run opera maximized
15) Showing all settings on a single page (opera:settings) - Being able to use "/" to find an option rather than clicking like a maniac is nice
16) Having both a "open in new tab" and "open in background tab" as options when rightclicking on a url.
17) Having "going to last used tab" under a combination that actually is possible - Ctrl+` is not possible on a swedish (nor finnish) layout since ` is Shift+´ (and no, Ctrl+Shift+´ does not work).
18) Having a good overview of available keybindings in the browser - do not assume internet-access just because it is a browser.
19) Having "special icons" (new tab et al) stack from the right and tabs stack from the left in the tab-bar, also would be nice with a "last closed tabs" icon-here.
20*) Not being forwarded to google when entering an unsupported protocol - akin to how opera now reacts when one types a in the addressbar now would be nice.
21*) Not being forwarded to google when entering an invalid domain
22*) Disable the dropdown when entering data in the url field
23) Showing a progressbar - preferably one that hides the address-bar when in use.
24) Hiding stuff like the "download"-icon (to the right of the adressbar) - this belongs in a menu.
25) Disallow to hide urls (via javascript?) when hoovering - google being main offender here, also as long as you do this all arguments you have for "security" in hiding urls in the address-bar suddenly becomes security-issues instead.
26) Blocking content - used to sanitize away pictues of babies and "celebrities" and many included files (.js, .css)
27) Being able to call other programs or gives sites on certain protocols - mailto, ,
And things I wanted to do already in O12 but never found out how and that still annoys me.
O12.1) Disable Different colours/shades in the url-bar - it just slows down my reading of the uriO12.2) Disable the "badge" at the left of the url inside the url-field
O12.3) Showing what user one is logged in as on ftp-sites (and http-sites for those that use basic auth)
O12.4) Disallowing javascript to hijack the keyboard
O12.5) Specify if https/ftps should be default instead of http/ftp when entering a url without protocol.
This was the things I encountered the first hour that I tried to use or annoyed me.
Oh, and point 17 probably should be considered a bug.
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classicgriff last edited by
And things that this forum ate was (within brackets):
20*) Not being forwarded to google when entering an unsupported protocol - akin to how opera now reacts when one types a [mailto[COLON]] in the addressbar now would be nice.
27) Being able to call other programs or gives sites on certain protocols - mailto, [gopher[COLON,SLASH,SLASH]], [news[COLON,SLASH,SLASH]]
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frenzie last edited by
Originally posted by classicgriff:
And yes, I've been using Opera since MDI was a new feature.
Umm… Opera's had MDI since the beginning. :right: (And MDI definitely predates Opera. :left:)
Carry on.
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classicgriff last edited by
Originally posted by Frenzie:
Originally posted by classicgriff:
And yes, I've been using Opera since MDI was a new feature.
Umm… Opera's had MDI since the beginning. :right: (And MDI definitely predates Opera. :left:)
Carry on.
Yes, I've been using Opera since the 2.x days, still have the floppy for it around somewhere.
And yup, iirc MDI was the main new feature of Windows 2.x (that is however a bit before my time)
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classicgriff last edited by
Originally posted by Frenzie:
I don't know about Windows 2, but MS Works 2.0 (for DOS) had MDI.
Could be argued that MS Works 2.0 didn't have an MDI but rather just was an application with support for showing multiple documents at once. But now we are into the subject of whether MDI is a feature of API or not.
I think we drifted a bit, but into a fun subject
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frenzie last edited by
Originally posted by classicgriff:
Could be argued that MS Works 2.0 didn't have an MDI but rather just was an application with support for showing multiple documents at once. But now we are into the subject of whether MDI is a feature of API or not.
I'm not sure I've seen MDI defined so restrictively before.
Originally posted by classicgriff:
O12.4) Disallowing javascript to hijack the keyboard
See here http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=11542332
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classicgriff last edited by
Originally posted by Frenzie:
Originally posted by classicgriff:
Could be argued that MS Works 2.0 didn't have an MDI but rather just was an application with support for showing multiple documents at once. But now we are into the subject of whether MDI is a feature of API or not.
I'm not sure I've seen MDI defined so restrictively before.
I've ended up in that discussion quite a few times; in part due to that most of my friends are programmers, and in part due to the fact that it is trivial to write a texteditor (with ansi-graphics, for *nix-console and/or DOS) that handles multiple textfiles in less than about 250 lines of code (in either c or pascal).
Originally posted by Frenzie:
Originally posted by classicgriff:
O12.4) Disallowing javascript to hijack the keyboard
See here http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=11542332
Thanks, will try that one the next time I'm at work, however, I noticed it employs userjs, is that even supported in O19? (question due to it being from the *nix-forum, which hasn't a public opera >12.x)
But I will try it on my next O12-installation
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frenzie last edited by
Originally posted by classicgriff:
in part due to the fact that it is trivial to write a texteditor (with ansi-graphics, for *nix-console and/or DOS) that handles multiple textfiles in less than about 250 lines of code (in either c or pascal).
I'm not sure what coding simplicity has to do with it? If you're going to define it restrictively, the Microsoft Design Guidelines seem like the most obvious candidate, not some API they may provide to make things simpler.
But I should probably clarify that in MS Works 2.0 you could drag windows around, minimize them, etc. It wasn't just a flat application with a window list, although I would call that a form of MDI too. (Basically like a tabbed document interface without the tabs.) See a screenshot here. It's been many years, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it followed the Microsoft MDI guidelines.I don't know about Windows 2, but the MS Works 2.0 (for DOS) had MDI.
Originally posted by classicgriff:
I noticed it employs userjs, is that even supported in O19?
Not those parts of Opera UserJS that make it superior to GreaseMonkey, no. So that script won't work on Opera 15+. For GM-compatible UserJS you could install e.g. TamperMonkey.
