Greetings Programs! I'm from Opera 12.64. Is it even worthwhile to drop by to say hello?
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blackbird71 last edited byOriginally posted by STNG:
... A few comments from the recent interview with Opera Software's representatives (PR subdivision):
"... but there is no expectation that extensive customizability will return as it was before" ...
A fascinating statement that can support a number of different interpretations:
1. Extensive customizability will neither return nor otherwise exist.
2. Extensive customizability will return, but only in part.
3. Extensive customizability will exist, but be significantly different than before.My bet is on #1 or #2. The irony is that what made older versions of Opera so useful to such a wide range of people was its very customizability... any kind of user could bend it to support their particular needs. But just like so many consumer items these days, it's likely Opera will now have "no user serviceable parts inside"... or at least, very few. Welcome to a world of three or four flavors of vanilla... and little else.
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traust last edited by
I wonder how many users are still using 12.6 like myself or just left and started using a different browser like I am planning on doing?
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randomhasard last edited by
Originally posted by traust:
I wonder how many users are still using 12.6 like myself or just left and started using a different browser like I am planning on doing?
Im planning on keeping it for now... and wait for the bookmarks (opera link) and keyboard shortcut. If after opera 20-22 (problems to load some pages like YOUTUBE or DotaCash wtf o_O) it doesn't have it, ill probably drop everything and go to firefox or baidu or chrome (since it look to have exactly the same retarded boring features).
Originally posted by Lupin-III:
We expect to see these features return sometime around version 73, in the year 2025.
:lol:
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funksoulbro last edited by
Originally posted by traust:
I wonder how many users are still using 12.6 like myself or just left and started using a different browser like I am planning on doing?
I have 3 browsers installed at the moment: -
Opera 12.16
Opera "Next"
Firefox 25I'm following the development of Opera to see if it evolves back into something I can use as my default browser, but I'm slowly starting to transition over to Firefox. I added extensions to Firefox 25 to replicate the functionality I need/use in Opera 12.16. In fact, it does some things better than Opera 12.16 does, but obviously it depends on your needs. Opera Next doesn't come close to fulfilling my needs, I know that much.
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bowen192 last edited by
Originally posted by leushino:
Another one for the Ignore file.
Without doubt this seems to be Opera's biggest problem.
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Deleted User last edited by
Originally posted by traust:
I wonder how many users are still using 12.6 like myself or just left and started using a different browser like I am planning on doing?
This is from a small survey of opera users on reddit:
http://i.imgur.com/ykk4ccf.jpg
Most people still use opera 12, quite a few moved to firefox and chrome, and only 13% is using opera chrome.
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Deleted User last edited by
Statistics are an interesting thing. You can make them say pretty much whatever you choose. The truth is, we don't know what most Opera users are doing. If you were to count all of the negative posts in the various threads posted on this forum it would only amount to a few thousand and even that is deceiving since many of those are repeats by the same posters. Opera users worldwide number in the millions and the truth is, we don't know what they are using or thinking. It's simply too early to make predictions.
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Arcanod last edited by
I'm still using 12.16 like many users.
Considering all which has been said, Opera has fallen (which is dreadfully sad). I can't even recommend it to people anymore.
The decision-makers (new ones?) at Opera Software clearly made a terrible and absurd mistake. -
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stiab3 last edited by
My main reason for abandoning firefox all those years ago, was that you needed too many extensions to have what I considered to be basic features. And because each extension is developed independently, when combined with the browsers core functions, they tended to hog too much RAM and processor power.
I don't want to go back to that.
Not for something as basic as being able to delete a specific site's cookies, or setting up a proxy server in opera alone. Or extend the amount of time before a page times out.
I feel like I've gone from an SLR to a point-and-shoot camera.
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Deleted User last edited by
Funny thing about todays point and shoot cameras. They seem to do the job very well, they're far more popular and they're portable.
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Deleted User last edited by
Indeed. Most folks today are perfectly content with mirrorless cameras. My feeling is that Opera has awakened to that simple fact.
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Deleted User last edited by
Indeed. Most folks today are perfectly content with mirrorless cameras. My feeling is that Opera has awakened to that simple fact.
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blackbird71 last edited by
Originally posted by leushino:
Indeed. Most folks today are perfectly content with mirrorless cameras. My feeling is that Opera has awakened to that simple fact.
So why buy brand A compared with brand B? Especially if the price is the same... or even free? It's the marketing and the product distinctives that work together to cause people to choose one over the other in such cases. So, a question can be raised: if rich configurability and unique/meaningful features are neither included nor marketed, why else would anyone prefer the product? As it applies to Opera, are the implementation elements of Blink Opera unique enough in the marketplace to create a demand for it, and are those elements being identified and persistently marketed to potential users - and, moreover, are they truly compelling enough for those users to go to the bother of installing and trying the product over some other brand?
Mirrorless cameras may be all well and good, but a camera maker had better have a bunch of other unique and well-advertised features to differentiate himself in the marketplace from all the other mirrorless cameras, or else he'll be marginalized. Sadly, I've yet to see either the compelling features or the marketing of same by Opera. Sad, because if Opera fails in this, having already alienated much of its geek/power-user base, it will essentially have nowhere to go in the desktop browser arena.
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Deleted User last edited by
Look, he raised the comparison to cameras not I. I simply accommodated him in his imperfect analogy. Opera is not going to reverse its direction. It's too late now. We've heard these same sob stories for months now with the result that... the new browser continues to be developed and the old becomes increasingly incompatible. If you don't like it - tough. That's life so deal with it.
