Bing as Default Search Engine in Opera 26
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blackbird71 last edited byI believe they dropped Bing because it was doing browser sniffing.
Most sites/services browser-sniff to some extent - that's how they usually tailor a page display to fit a browser brand/version's unique behavior. It's only when a site does something unacceptable with the sniffing that it would matter.
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A Former User last edited by
I believe they dropped Bing because it was doing browser sniffing.
Heh, definitely not. It wasn't even near a major issue.
My hypothesis: the Bing search engine inclusion deal Opera Software had with Microsoft just expired and MS decided to not renew or pay the value Opera was asking for it. Opera then replaced it with DuckDuckGo either because they made a deal with them or by "philanthropy".
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maggard last edited by
Adding my name to the list of Opera users wishing to set Bing as the default search engine. Thank you.
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giannivm last edited by
Bing pays you to use it, given, only a little bit at a time, but it still adds up to a little bit after a while rather than nothing with other browsers. Sorry Opera, let me know when you're not gonna hassle my ability to get those points and I'll be back on board. Love the browser otherwise, but this is a dealbreaker for many who like free money.
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senenf last edited by
Dear Opera,
You have two more days to return me Bing as my default browser or you will be removed...
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kakikaka1e last edited by
Can you please add Bing back as default search! I am moving back to Firefox if you guys don't. Duckduckgo doesn't make any sense.
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christoph142 last edited by
You have two more days to return me Bing as my default browser or you will be removed...
It's weekend. You can uninstall it right now then.
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blackbird71 last edited by
You have two more days to return me Bing as my default browser or you will be removed...
It's weekend. You can uninstall it right now then.
Ahh... but that would eliminate all the "countdown" drama.
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lem729 last edited by
I prefer DuckDuckGo as a default (am happy that Opera has done that), but I do like Bing also, as a backup. It's not my number 1 choice, but it is useful, and I prefer it to Google. Not quite sure why the either/or approach (DuckDuckGo or Bing). Anyway, I added Bing as another search engine, that you can access by typing the letter in front/ in my case, a "b."
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des111168 last edited by
I don't know why they did this, but they need to fix it, stat. Put the Bing stuff back. I shouldn't have to customize my browser to have the options that used to be built in. I want Bing back in the default list, now. This was a dumb thing to do. Fix it, Opera.
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kakikaka1e last edited by
This is beyond ridiculous. Users shouldn’t have to tamper with configuration files (default_partner_content.json) file to get back Bing.
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runewake last edited by
I will be leaving as well (User since Opera 10) if Bing is not restored. Every change since 12 has can hardly be called a correct one and the degradation of the final feature I came to Opera for is unacceptable. You have taken my speed dial, my search customization, my mail, my irc and series of other features.
You have until Friday night to remedy this (patch downloaded to my PC). That should be ample time to both develop and test the return of a search engine.
I will no longer recommend Opera as a result of this, no matter the resolution of this. Such poor product management deserves anger.
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blackbird71 last edited by
Hmm. How many more single-post posters will issue their several-day ultimatums to Opera? There comes a point when they look like the same individual registering under different names, using the very same m.o. - all trying to create the appearance of a 'negative' user tidal wave. Tip to that poster: I've read posts critical of Blink Opera for a very long time now... and none of them previously have gone to the absurd lengths of issuing couple-day ultimatums to Opera. Excuse me, but your pattern of immaturity is showing...
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christoph142 last edited by
they look like the same individual registering under different names
Given that they do have IPs belonging to different countries this user is either very conscious about doing so or dropping Bing just hits another group of casual users that wouldn't feel the need to post here before.
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kiuro last edited by
I don't know if the ultimatum posters are the same individual, but I'd like to add my vote for fixing this ASAP. Such browser behavior is very annoying; no warning that my own default was changed and no way to fix it (at least let me select one of the 'Other search engines' as default; still annoying but at least there's an easy UI fix). Having to type that extra letter when I search with Bing now isn't much effort, but it constantly reminds me of this problem.
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runewake last edited by
Definitely not the same people, just a lot of people that are coming from the shadows. Poor product management tends to do this. I actually had an account years ago, it got deleted for reasons I do not recall.
To address the personal attack by blackbird (I hope you understand the irony of your immaturity comment!): This is due to the fact that 1) this is a feature that already existed. 2) this fix is trivial. 3) Opera should know better than this. The omnibar is a huge feature to have destroyed overnight and should be top of their PO's list. If it is not than our needs and intentions for browsers are not the same (not even close) and they are no longer worth the trouble.
It is the metaphorical removal of the start button.
the Bing search engine inclusion deal Opera Software had with Microsoft just expired and MS decided to not renew or pay the value Opera was asking for it. Opera then replaced it with DuckDuckGo either because they made a deal with them or by "philanthropy".
I doubt this considering that it is still included as the search for "define *".
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windlibra last edited by
the Bing search engine inclusion deal Opera Software had with Microsoft just expired and MS decided to not renew or pay the value Opera was asking for it. Opera then replaced it with DuckDuckGo either because they made a deal with them or by "philanthropy".
I doubt this considering that it is still included as the search for "define *".
I believe it's too lazy for developers to remove the code at that moment.
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blackbird71 last edited by
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To address the personal attack by blackbird (I hope you understand the irony of your immaturity comment!): This is due to the fact that 1) this is a feature that already existed. 2) this fix is trivial. 3) Opera should know better than this. The omnibar is a huge feature to have destroyed overnight and should be top of their PO's list. If it is not than our needs and intentions for browsers are not the same (not even close) and they are no longer worth the trouble. ...The immaturity lies in coming to a forum and loudly threatening to dump a software program if its designers don't reverse some change you dislike, within a day or a week or whatever of your complaint. If you don't like a piece of software, say so politely, give your reasons, and just do whatever you feel you have to... without all the immature drama of threats, ultimatums and deadlines.
For the record, I still use Opera 12.14 instead of 12.17 precisely because Opera, for reasons it deems adequate, "locked" the default search engine list on Presto browsers starting with 12.15. I came to the MyOpera forum and here on several occasions and stated my reasons for opposing that change (in large measure because I prefer StartPage, which is not in the default list). Opera elected to stick with its decision... so I simply made my choice to stick with 12.14.
Something similar happened when Opera elected to replace the Presto family with Blink versions. Those who inhabit this forum for any length of time know well my objections to the Blink versions to date, because I've attempted to politely state them on several occasions over the past many months. While I recognize Blink Opera is still evolving, it hasn't yet met some of my critical needs, so I chose FireFox as my primary browser for now. I still come here to help Opera users to the degree I can, considering it a form of "payback" to all those who've helped me in Opera's forums for many years. And if Opera eventually includes some key features I need, I will have no problem in returning to it in its Blink form. My point is that there is no need for posting drama and ultimatums. Opera is a free browser... and there are at least a dozen other free browsers "out there"... politely voice your concerns, make whatever choices/changes you need to, and simply get on with your life.
