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    • ruario
      ruario last edited by

      Leushino's post seems completely on topic to me. He is testing Markdown and tried one HTML tag. Using * is not a massive problem because if support was dropped most posts would still make perfect sense, without the emphasis provided by italics.

      More risky, would be to use tables for layout (as I actually did in the initial post) or changing <font color="red">text</font> <font color="blue">colour</font> to indicate certain things. If these possibilities disappear your posting could potentially cease to make sense in the future.

      These are the kinds of things to keep in mind if you choose to use additional HTML tags. If you know your posting will still work without them, then it doesn't really matter if you use them. On the flip side, perhaps you don't even need them in that case. πŸ˜‰

      I risked using tables above because I am willing to maintain and update my posting if it breaks, since I intend it as a guide, rather than just a comment I later forget about.

      P.S. @leushino You forgot to close your * tag with * (once you were done with italicising text). It actually looked OK this time but could mess things up in some scenarios. I have added it for you now as a quick edit.

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      • ruario
        ruario last edited by

        HTML analogies are given for the reference.

        Actually the ones that correspond directly to Markdown should be safe, so if you could use them directly if you prefer. Not sure why you would though. It takes much longer to write out all the tags.

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        • ruario
          ruario last edited by

          @joshl It is funny to see you tell Leushino he should only be using Markdown in this thread when you are abusing the <abbr> tag to do things it is not intended for in one of the posts in this same thread.

          <abbr> is specifically designed for expanding abbreviations and acronyms. Not for displaying random, unrelated messages on mouseover. πŸ˜‰

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          • A Former User
            A Former User last edited by admin

            Tell us about "calling Elvis" and using hash as it has output in this comment - are they part of this Markdown?
            I already approached testing them in my thread, but it remained unclear about certain functionality.

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            • ruario
              ruario last edited by

              Calling Elvis???

              You mean the fact that when he typed "#1" it generated a search link. Honestly I am not sure what that is about but I expect the poster did not intend it, so I have escaped it for him.

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              • ruario
                ruario last edited by

                Ok, I had a look, hashtag search links (making a search link by putting # in front) is a feature of the forum software we use.

                It is <em style='font-style: italic'>definitely not</em> Markdown but can be escaped the same way, by putting a \ in front of the #.

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                • A Former User
                  A Former User last edited by

                  Have you ever heard of Reddit? I would guess so, given they have 174 million users. Their comment box also uses Markdown and only includes a simple link to formatting help. Is it chaos? Yes! But not because of the formatting!

                  I have heard of Reddit, but I've never used it.
                  If they use Markdown then I guess it must be OK of course, but I still prefer traditional forum formatting controls I'm afraid!
                  How to achieve the desired formatting is much more obvious with those, to me at least.
                  πŸ™‚

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                  • ruario
                    ruario last edited by

                    Ok, looks like we got to the bottom of the broken emphasis thing. I'm not going to promise it will be fixed shortly because fixes are rolled out in batches but hopefully it won't take too long. I'll explain in more detail when it is fixed. Its kinda silly. πŸ˜‰

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                    • A Former User
                      A Former User last edited by

                      Whose silly?

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                      • ruario
                        ruario last edited by

                        Whose silly?

                        It, not who is silly. In this case it meaning, "the mistake that caused the problem with missing emphasis".

                        Or to put that another way, perhaps I should have written:

                        The mistake that caused the problem (with missing emphasis), is silly.

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                        • A Former User
                          A Former User last edited by

                          Whose silly?

                          It, not who is silly. In this case it meaning,...

                          No, you didn't write that - you wrote "its silly", so my simple question stays valid. (And yes, if I wanted to write "who's" - I would have done exactly that. The question is - why would I have (wanted to)?)

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                          • ruario
                            ruario last edited by

                            It's meaning "it is" and yes I should have written an apostrophe. Are you purposely trying to misunderstand me? It feels like it.

                            so my simple question stays valid

                            Ok, I now think you meant to say "What's silly?".

                            In any case, I specifically said:

                            I'll explain in more detail when it is fixed.

                            That has not happened yet, so what exactly do you want?

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                            • A Former User
                              A Former User last edited by

                              Ok, I now think you meant to say "What's silly?".

                              Nope.

                              ...I should have written an apostrophe. Are you purposely trying to misunderstand me? It feels like it.

                              They are "different words" in English. I do not purposely try to misunderstand - I try to understand what is literally written <q title="You're one IN CHARGE here, so you're not a simple user who can be let go on unnoticed, officer.">(I try not to let myself "understand" people's deviations - especially with native Brits and people in charge - by which allowing them to notice those themselves; nothing personal)</q>.

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                              • blackbird71
                                blackbird71 last edited by

                                This seems to apply here:

                                β€œ I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant” - Alan Greenspan, Chairman, US Federal Reserve (1987-2006)

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                                • A Former User
                                  A Former User last edited by

                                  [Modded out as it is not helpful to the discussion. Use your own thread and stop cross posting]

                                  <!--

                                  @ruario

                                  Four spaces ("sub"lines) within a list don't seem to make any difference to the output.

                                  This is entirely as expected since Markdown and (HTML for that matter) cuts all whitespace (spaces, tabs and line breaks) down to a single space, unless marked up otherwise.

                                  I meant what?
                                  You said earlier about using such "4 spaced lines" to show codes in this Markdown, right?
                                  Then I went to another 'forum' with a similar markup (media.info) and tried to show some input there. You know what? Only the "four-spaced line" worked with some.

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                                  • ruario
                                    ruario last edited by

                                    Ok, emphasis works now and we have changed the help page to have instructions like those I wrote above. We also link them from the note below the comments input field. Hope that helps everyone.

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                                    • ruario
                                      ruario last edited by

                                      The emphasis thing was just a stupid <abbr title="Cascading Style Sheets">CSS<abbr> typo. Previously I thought (assumed) it was down to the software we use for converting Markdown to HTML. However, I was viewing the source code of a page on the forums where I tried to use it and saw that <em> tags were actually present.

                                      Basically we had <em> set to font-style:inherit. Of course, within comments on the forum <em>'s parent will almost always be a <p> tag or something else with font-style:normal, rather than font-style:italic as you would expect for <em>. Thus, no Italics.

                                      Ah well, fixed now!

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                                      • ruario
                                        ruario last edited by

                                        It will be interesting to see how many posts suddenly get emphasis, that was there all along but never displayed until now. πŸ˜‰

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                                        • Deleted User
                                          Deleted User last edited by

                                          @ruario Emoticons menu don't show up when editing a post, check that please.

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                                          • ruario
                                            ruario last edited by

                                            They do for me @sidneyneto

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