Opera 25 -- What is the point?

  • I recently updated to Opera 25, but I am finding it a headache with regards to a lot of features that existed in 12 and I am finding something as relevant as managing bookmarks an absolute headache in the new version.

    A lot of the answers presented on this site seem to say "Oh just use it alongside some other browser" but is there any hope of the new Opera actually improving? Especially since a lot of people seem to be voicing their doubts about missing a number of the features that we have come to expect...

    If not, why would I not want to find a different browser which works on all websites (as the old Opera no longer did) and is comfortable and easy to manage with regards to all the features I wish to use? Or, to put it differently, why would I continue using Opera 25 at all given it does not provide me with what I have come to expect ?

  • The devs are adding new features slowly, we will have sync in version 27. If you want another browser, try Firefox which is pretty similar to Presto.

  • ... If you want another browser, try Firefox which is pretty similar to Presto.

    Though users will need a variety of extensions even there (FF) to mimic some of the key native Presto features.

  • I know that Ff 3.6.x was/is layout-customisable (to an extent). I haven't actually tried higher versions.

  • The latest version of Firefox is layout customizable too, Josh.

  • I'm running FF 33.0.2 (latest stable version) and it is very much like Presto with the addition of several extensions. You should find peace with Firefox OR you could simply be patient as sidney advised, and wait for Opera 27.

  • Any prelim release date for this 27 ?

  • Maybe 2 or 3 months because it is developer. @leushino I taught you only use Opera 😛

  • Any prelim release date for this 27 ?

    Most probably not this year. Opera 26 wasn't even release as stable yet and the gap between two stable version numbers is around one and half, two months.

    And there is also the Christmas break.

  • Maybe 2 or 3 months because it is developer. @leushino I taught you only use Opera

    No... I have four browsers on my computer (IE 11, Chrome 38.0.2125.111 [64 bit], FF 33.0.2 and of course Opera 25.0). Why? It's a long story, sidney. My favorite continues to be Opera but I do use the others when the need arises. Some of this is related to family issues as well. Our son is a distinguished software engineer with MS. 😛 So... my wife and I try to appease him by using MS programs (she will ONLY use IE whereas I remain a rebel) and there is no Play Station in this household, if you get my drift. 😄

  • Maybe 2 or 3 months because it is developer. @leushino I taught you only use Opera

    No... I have four browsers on my computer (IE 11, Chrome 38.0.2125.111 [64 bit], FF 33.0.2 and of course Opera 25.0). Why? It's a long story, sidney. My favorite continues to be Opera but I do use the others when the need arises. Some of this is related to family issues as well. Our son is a distinguished software engineer with MS. So... my wife and I try to appease him by using MS programs (she will ONLY use IE whereas I remain a rebel) and there is no Play Station in this household, if you get my drift.

    No Problem kkkkk :cheers: 🙂

  • why would I continue using Opera 25 at all given it does not provide me with what I have come to expect ?

    Sorry to point this out but no-one except Opera own their desktop browser (given to us for free) and we certainly don't have any claim or rights to the features of the previous version. Opera can do whatever they like to their browser so stop assuming they owe you as your comment implies.

  • @cozza: right on, brother. :cheers:

  • If the devs had wanted, they could have stopped the development of Opera; but they didn't. They decided to build a better browser from zero. You are right @cozza :yes:

  • Sorry to point this out but no-one except Opera own their desktop browser (given to us for free) and we certainly don't have any claim or rights to the features of the previous version. Opera can do whatever they like to their browser so stop assuming they owe you as your comment implies.

    But we also don't need to use their browser. Why should we? The current Opera is nothing to get excited about. I can use Chrome/Firefox/IE instead and it's no big difference. The older Opera (<=12) had outstanding features which are missing in the current version. These features were the reason some people preferred Opera. Even simple features/settings from old Opera are missing.

    I tried the current version (25) and it can't even handle a lot of open tabs. I always get memory warnings. It's unusable for me.

  • So don't use it.

  • Opera is getting slower, form data dont work and is a blur and not all websites work, save session to and save to speed dials have disappeared, i dont like the new square speed dials Im switching to chrome - its over with the opera. I only switched to opera since my old machine was slow, been patient long enough but now it seems it going from better to worse.

  • ...this is what happens in open source - everyone dives into become a dev but with no rules or policy people change things here and there and nothing is no longer consistent, im not for FF but they have built themselves a reputation, things are consistent and in line. I once thought chrome was unprofessional but they were still trick or treating but opera should have done better all this time coz chrome got into the game much later than opera

  • But we also don't need to use their browser.

    An therein lies the problem with the Opera Presto 'mourners' - a belief that they NEED it and cannot function without it. All browsers should just be a means to connect with the internet, not a way of life as some seem to make it out to be.

  • So don't use it.

    Did you read his post with understanding?

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