General Opera One Feedback Topic
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burnout426 Volunteer last edited by
@idgat said in General Opera One Feedback Topic:
And the sloppy programming practice of creating a new version folder for each update
Opera Developer has gotten rid of launcher.exe (if you do a fresh install) and has opera.exe in root of the install folder now so that the path to opera.exe (used for various things) never changes. That's a little improvement at least. Also, in the future, Opera might make it so there's always only one version folder to keep things tidy. Would definitely be nice.
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Rodanne last edited by leocg
@leocg tried Brave on the test site and got these results;
Our tests indicate that you have strong protection against Web tracking.Is Your Browser:
Blocking tracking ads? Yes
Blocking invisible trackers? Yes
Protecting you from fingerprinting? ◕ your browser has a randomized fingerprint -
Rodanne last edited by
@leocg Generally I'm pretty impressed with Opera One on macOS 14.4.1. Its worlds away, as I guess we should expect, from the first time I tried it back in 2017.
Unfortunately it will still need to go a little further with security features as it currently does not block "fingerprinting" as some others like Brave browser does.
In all other respects I'm liking it more and more.
The Aria AI is cool, I was surprised when I highlighted some text in Indonesian to get a popup notification offering to translate to English by Aria amongst other options like "look up" and more.
Basically it's easy to setup and use and easy on the eye.
It's system resource use is fairly low although not as low as some.
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greatgat12 last edited by
I found a few big cons in Opera for me, this was the reason, why I deinstalled it:
- Can't clear browsing data on exit.
- Can't create apps for websites like in edge.
- Browser doesn't close when the last tab is closed, and there is no option for it.
- Lack of customizability. (Like move around objects everywhere and change anything how you like it)
- Too round interface.
What I found good (in comparison to Edge): - Not mandatory synchronization.
- No edge's red dot of doom.
- Flow.
- Free VPN, but it would be good if we had a button for it on the search bar or side bar.
Though your browser is better than edge on android, I didn't find any big cons, so I still stay with opera on my phone.
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illostraight last edited by
I am leaving Opera because it does not save Passwords in Sonoma. Bye Bye.
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Snorlax12 last edited by leocgThis is feedback.
Hello guys! I tried Opera and Opera dev and they are perfect!
(I will give you some of my favorite features Opera/Opera Dev has.)
- VPN
- Aria
- Workspaces (reason: no need for workspace extensions when you have OPERA!)
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quardature last edited by
I have been using opera for nearly 20 years. I like many of its features. One of these is the speed dial feature. It allows me to quickly access news in my area of interest. However, there are also sites that make clickbait news that I do not want to see here. I want to be able to manage these news sources. I want to have an area where I can select news sources. Thank you for your interest.
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vyrgozunqk last edited by
@mushin i've figured it out... It's just the way Opera handles the tabs... If you close opera from the "Close"(X) button -> all tabs are closed.
If you quit opera through Alt+F4 or CMD+Q on Mac, all tabs are stored... I can't understand who thought of that behaviour, it's really weird but it's like that. -
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TheDoubleTap last edited by
The User Experience on this browser has been an absolute catastrophe. This is one of the worst User Experiences ever and I can only imagine it turns people away all the time. I don't know how the Opera Marketing Team has the gall to claim that this is a superior browsing experience to literally any other browser. I'd honestly rather use Safari and, as a developer myself, that's saying a hell of a lot. No, I'll go further, I'd rather use Edge Browser.
To summarise my experience:
- The automatic import from Chrome didn't work. Didn't bring anything over except a handful of Bookmarks (not even all of them).
- Manually importing my passwords through CSV says that it worked, and tells me how many passwords it imported, but then the Password Manager remains empty.
- To get around that I set up LastPass and installed it as an extension but (you'll see this is a theme) any time that I close my browser I have to log in again completely.
- I have the browser set up to remember my last session, but not only does it not do that, it doesn't even keep me logged in. I have to log back in to the browser every time I open it.
- The Sync options will not work, I'm asked to sign in (again) to activate sync but then when I do sign in, nothing happens.
- The Tab Islands are a nice feature but they're trumped completely by Chrome's Tab Groups which allow you to customise the colours and the text in the tab, for actual organisation. Having several randomly-coloured tab islands is not at all useful for finding what you want again later. Even just changing this colour would make it a bit more useful, but of course that's not an option.
- Workspaces would be a feasible alternative but, again, whenever I close the browser, my workspaces vanish.
- I like the built-in player but, again, it forgets me when the browser closes.
- I like the idea of having AI easily accessible from the sidebar and since I pay for ChatGPT I figured I'd use the built-in ChatGPT feature. I think you know where this is going. It doesn't work. The pop-out that opens just crashes.
- I like to be able to hover a tab and see what's on there to quickly find what I'm looking for again. Chrome does this beautifully with a little pop-out tooltip. The Opera version of tab previewing is a massive ugly modal that covers the page you're currently looking at and 9/10 just says "Preview not available"
I could honestly go on but I'll leave it there. This is a shoddy poorly-built excuse for a browser and I'm just aghast at the contrast between how they market it and the actual user experience.
I do know that it's a much better experience on PC, but to just blatantly overlook the experience for everyone on Mac is mind-blowing.How do you all cope using it on Mac? Do you just not use any Quality-of-life browser features at all? Have you all had to hack together workarounds? I'm genuinely curious to know what people love about it, especially on this iOS where support for it is clearly the lowest possible priority.
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damnyou last edited by
Opera has been my browser for many years, but that's going to change. It's just too prone to break down. True, I can usually fix the problems, but why should that be necessary so often?
Face it, Opera is unreliable, and my experience is that it has to be re-installed every few months to keep operating properly.
Opera is pretty, and it's fast, but that last reinstallation did it for me. I'm now going to look for a browser that will function for years without having to be reinstalled.
PS: Oh, yeah, I also want a browser that is recognized everywhere.
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error-user-not-found last edited by
Annoying bugs:
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If I select the address bar and then click on in again, the second click doesn't work. Neither do any of them if I try again and again and again. I have to click somewhere else and to be able to click the address bar again, and after I do that, the process repeat.
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Can't drag files from the download list or download page, and this is really annoying since Chrome can do it perfectly.
Using a desktop i3 10100 computer running Windows 10 64bits, 16Gb RAM.
Regards.
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Denizen976 last edited by leocg@thedoubletap First, thank you for documenting so well. Second, you're a brave person (Using Edge). Third...
I guess I don't really have a third, but I will echo - Opera needs some serious work.Let me tell you about my divorce because of Opera...
I am a bad browser. I will have many, many tabs open. Some will be in Tab Islands. Many of those will be there accidentally. Other, related tabs, will be off on their own, in shark infested waters, I guess.
I will wind up opening additional windows, thinking this will help me organize... i.e.,- email-related tabs wind up at one side of one window... but every link clicked on, winds up in that same window.
- Another window will have tabs to AI image generation, AI chats, AI news, and random links from those tabs.
- Another window will have social media things
- Another window will have other technical, programming, etc.
- Aaand another one will have electronics, etc.
I usually wind up with links spread sporadically across all of them... all windows will have some YT video, the Social Media one will have login tabs for banking or AI chat. The AI one will have tabs for "X", it's all just 'orible.
My memory is full. I mean, really full. Like, 10 pounds of manure in a 4 pound sack, full. 471 tabs across 5 windows? Oh... not counting the Private window.
And periodically, I try to at least inventory. I can't save a window's worth of tabs, like in any regular browser. No. I have to save a windows worth of tabs to a speed dial. That's it's own type of insanity.
"But that's OK, because you can just move speed dials to bookmarks!" Argh. That's total insanity.Although... I did (just) learn that I can open a bookmarks TAB, and, I can export the whole shebang to a file and edit it IN an external text editor, to get my bookmarks from the speed dial tabs.
Insanity.
So, I figure I'll try Workspaces again. Tried 'em before, didn't understand the concept, so, quit. Read a bit on it, "maybe workspaces can be used kind of like profiles!"
Spend hours (sob) setting up workspaces for the organization I was trying to get. I'm thinking, "Hey, I know it's not really documented WHY they are or WHAT they do, but somebody said this worked for them..."
I should have inventoried everything before I started - but I was brave - and besides, I was maybe a hours away from Opera expiring on it's own and being so full of tabs that it takes 20 minutes to reopen.
Set up 5 general workspaces, to generally match what should have been organized in the windows, but hey, I'm not that good.
Spend hours weeding through and sending tab islands to the proper window, and assigning to specific workspaces. Hey, I'm beginning to like the idea!
Wow, got all Social stuff with all email stuff with ... basically, any signin not otherwise aligned.
Got all my AI stuff declared to the AI workspace and in the same window.
Etc., etc.
I'm keeping an eye on my memory... it's inching higher still... the Opera windows freeze for a few seconds in between operations... the outlines haunting me like ghosts. Reproachful ghosts.
Okay, time for the big experiment. Close two windows... memory comes down. Close the media/email one... memory goes down. Close the tech/battery/whatever window. Only AI left open. Cool!
If Workspaces work the way described, I should be able to shut Opera down, bring it back up, and go to any workspace, retrieve all the tabs saved to that workspace, in the last state, log-ins and all, and be merrily on my way using oh... 30% of the memory I was?
Open Opera. Ok. AI tabs. Now. Open a fresh window, and Click another workspace.
Nothing.
Nothing?
nothing!?
A different workspace. A couple of tabs. Correct topics, but only 5 or 7 out of the 60 or so that were assigned to that workspace?!
A different workspace. Nothing.I'm not against grown men showing emotion. I cry when dogs die. I shed a tear for friends who have passed. I sniffle over how much I love my kids.
Opera has caused a grown man to break down in sobs of agony, writhing on the floor, kicking the computer desk, over turning the chair, causing his wife to come running to see what happened.... all she sees is a grown man weeping openly, tearing out great handfuls of his hair.
"Who died?! What great tragedy has befallen us?!!" She's starting to get frantic, tearing up, expecting the worst, ready to rend her garments and join her husband in whatever fresh hell has been visited upon our family! "What is it, husband mine?"
"Opera," I manage to whisper, croaking out the cause of my pain, through cracked lips. "It's... Opera."
She's confused. She's wondering if it's a tragic opera I'm comparing life to.
She is wondering if we're broke, destitute, penniless, if we'll be cast out into the snow next month (We're in May, in the 35th degree latitudes... it'll be hot soon).
"My browser crapped out, I lost all my hard-won tabs. It's gone. It's all gone." (For me, "crapped out" is pretty strong language, in front of my wife.)
She knows beans about my computer. Or my browser. And I should probably delete my history, but anyway.
"What?" She's still concerned, but now she's concerned about if it would be considered justifiable homicide, and, if she can get the blood stains out, could she turn the room into a sewing room or something.
Okay... it turns out I didn't divorced. Only a broken arm and a couple bruises.
But I blame it all on Opera.
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Nikopol1821 last edited by
I have settings for Wallet stuff I dont use, AI stuff I dont want but cant decide what my standard search engine is? Instead I have to type in some code stuff every time that doesnt work for me to use the search engine of my choice? I find this very hard to use and I dont get it, its way easier in all other browsers I used before since they simply give you the option to type in your own standard search engine unlike Opera.
Also the settings for how a new tab should behave are very limited? I can set up what site Opera shows when I start the browser (not even a new window counts I have to quit Opera completely and re-open it) but not what site I want when opening a new tab? I dont want to close the whole browser to have "quick" access to my most visited site and the quick access tiles are nice but really just fancy bookmarks, quicker would be - like in every other browser again - just let me edit what site to show when opening a new tab?I dont know if im missing literally everything in the settings where you can actually edit all these things or are they just not available in Opera which I find hard to believe, such a fancy browser (honestly) but this pretty common basic settings stuff is missing? I really would like to use Opera and hope im just missing something or misunderstand the settings. Would appreciate it if someone could help me.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@nikopol1821 It's been a while that browsers no longer have a "home page" that is loaded every time you open a new tab.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@nikopol1821 Regarding search engines, as known only the pre-defined ones can be set as the default search engine.
It was said that it is for security reasons back on the time it was introduced.
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