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How Many Bookmarks Do you Have?

  • I would say what F2/"Go to page" does is more searching than autocomplete. When you type a keyword there (or Addressbar URL field), Opera searches in bookmarks data and typed page history. (Might search wider with default setting. But I usually disable "Remember content of visited pages" option as soon as launching a new profile.)

    The search in bookmarks data looks at all the elements in bookmark property:title, address, nickname and description. This means forgetting site/page title or nickname is not a problem (Re @scratchspace's point). Just type the word and see if you have been and bookmarked any pages related to that word. If you have indeed bookmarked those pages in the past, then, it is more likely than not you thought those pages would be useful in future for the particular topic you are searching with that keyword.So it is worthwhile revisiting those pages.

    Re Bookmarks (vs Personal Bar) vs Speeddial debate
    For me they are totally different things and one cannot substitute another. My analogy goes like this:
    Bookmarks are library catalogue entries letting you search and access the entire library collections without actually going to each shelf and taking each book out.
    You have already taken out some books/magazines you regularly use for your thing (entertainment, getting latest fashion/gardening/sport news, homework, trip planning, work or what have you) and piled up on the library desk. This is Personal Bar
    And you already have pulled out several books/magazines from the pile and opened the pages you always look at first. This is Speeddial

    With this analogy number of bookmarks may represent the person's need for book access. Some need to access a large number of books. Others have no such need and only want to read newspapers and a magazine or two.

    Edited for better wording

  • I have F2 bound to new page & go to nickname, not the default go to page. I misread scratchpage's message.

  • Originally posted by scratchspace:

    Frenzie, I'm not sure if I'm following you re: the misreading of my wording, but FWIW, when I referred to the "go to page" box earlier in connection with the autocomplete---or "searching"----feature, I was actually referring to the same thing you were, the "bookmark" version of that box.

    Ah, ok. You're right, in the GUI it's not entitled "go to nickname" but "go to page" and merely says "enter the nickname of a bookmark". I've internalized the difference between go to page and go to nickname, 's all. 🙂

  • I have 672 bookmarks in 21 folders.
    Not a massive number, and there are of course only a few of them that I use regularly, but boy would I miss them if I lost them!
    🙂

  • 14,000+ bookmarks in 2200+ folders. Do I win? :lol:
    http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=14696132

  • Originally posted by dicktater:

    Do I win?

    No, you lose — the winner is the one with fewest bookmarks. 🙂

    However, in theory you could do it with just 13 folders on the Quick Access Bar, each folder having 13 subfolders, each subfolder having 13 further subfolders, and each folder having an average of 10-12 bookmarks.

    As things are it's impractical to organise more than a few bookmarks or folders using the QAB, but if you organise the folders thoroughly before importing them into Opera Next, you might just about manage.

  • Originally posted by Pesala:

    No, you lose

    rather Opera loses because it cannot fit the user's needs.

  • Originally posted by serious:

    Opera loses because it cannot fit the user's needs.

    Losers lose out because they can neither adapt to change, nor be content with an old version.

  • Originally posted by Pesala:

    Losers lose out because they can neither adapt to change, nor be content with an old version.

    Why should you adapt to change to something worse than before? The lack of a proper bookmark manager is ridiculous.
    That philosophy won't hold in a long run.
    What should people do with all their bookmarks? Not those with only 10-50 but those with 500 or more.
    How can they be organized, categorized or be structured in a nice pedagogical manner?

    So the question remains:
    Why do Opera hate the classic bookmark manager so much?
    Is that what you called change for the future?
    Opera 19 Developer is out now but still no bookmark manager on the horizon.

  • Originally posted by Ervin74:

    Why should you adapt to change to something worse than before?

    You don't have to adapt if you don't want to — use the old version, which is what I am doing.

    The best philosophy is to deal with things as they are, not as you want them to be.

    If or when Opera Next is "good enough" or when Opera 12.16 is too out of date, we will all have to adapt to the way things are at that stage.

    Originally posted by Ervin74:

    Opera 19 Developer is out now but still no bookmark manager on the horizon.

    It is definitely on the horizon, as is customisability. I don't see any sign of Notes or Panels on the horizon yet.

  • Speed dial: 96 links, 13 folders
    Stash: 177 links
    QAB: not using
    In Opera 12, when I was moving to O15, there were ~660 bookmarks, mostly rubbish.

  • I've got 169 in 26 folders. In Opera 12.16 I can access any bookmark with 2 clicks, without leaving the page I'm already on. That's the way it should work. More than 50% of the respondents have over 500 bookmarks, which is a silly amount to expect people to have on something called a "SPEED" dial.

  • Originally posted by funksoulbro:

    More than 50% of the respondents have over 500 bookmarks, which is a silly amount to expect people to have on something called a "SPEED" dial.

    Agreed, anything much more than 50 is a silly amount to have on speed dial, but no one has to have all of their bookmarks on speed dial — they can use the Quick Access Bar. With less than 500 bookmarks, anyone could access any bookmarks with 2 clicks without leaving the page. Depending on the length of the folder name (which can be edited) and the width of the monitor, one can fit about 10-20 folders on the QAB, with 20-30 bookmarks in each folder.

  • Originally posted by Pesala:

    Losers lose out because they can neither adapt to change, nor be content with an old version.

    or they just move away to other products who listen to what the users want ...

  • Originally posted by serious:

    or they just move away to other products who listen to what the users want ...

    This forum will be a lot better if the losers leave. The constant whining makes it hard to hear any constructive feedback. Opera really don't need to listen to the losers — they do listen to their users.

  • So the user should sit quietly like a mouse and be thankful for everything? What a load of bull...

  • Originally posted by artmil:

    So the user should sit quietly like a mouse and be thankful for everything?

    Not at all. The users should offer constructive feedback, and accept that not all things that he or she wants are possible, nor even desirable for most users.

  • Originally posted by Pesala:

    desirable for most users

    ... seems to be mostly Opera12, Op15+ does not even show up here: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm

  • Originally posted by Pesala:

    Originally posted by serious:

    or they just move away to other products who listen to what the users want ...

    This forum will be a lot better if the losers leave. The constant whining makes it hard to hear any constructive feedback. Opera really don't need to listen to the losers — they do listen to their users.

    Actually, it would be better if they paid attention to the whining, rather than the handful of fanboys who would praise opera even if had had no toolbars, no buttons, and the only website it could display is www.mylittlepony.com.

    As for the Quick Access Bar, in Opera 18 if you enable it, it tells you to restart Opera for the change to take effect, but when you do it goes back to being disabled. Utterly useless.

  • Originally posted by funksoulbro:

    As for the Quick Access Bar, in Opera 18 if you enable it, it tells you to restart Opera for the change to take effect, but when you do it goes back to being disabled. Utterly useless.

    This is a case in point. You're just whining, not trying to resolve the issue. The QAB is working in 17, 18, and 19. Search the forum to learn how to enable it — it is disabled by default now.

    The fanboys are also not worth listening to either, but those repeatedly whining on the blogs for bookmarks or a Linux version, or those posting flame-bait on these forums about the imminent demise of Opera, etc., should be banned — no questions asked.

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