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    • Deleted User
      Deleted User last edited by

      14,000+ bookmarks in 2200+ folders. Do I win? :lol:
      http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=14696132

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      • A Former User
        A Former User last edited by

        Originally posted by dicktater:

        Do I win?

        No, you lose — the winner is the one with fewest bookmarks. 🙂

        However, in theory you could do it with just 13 folders on the Quick Access Bar, each folder having 13 subfolders, each subfolder having 13 further subfolders, and each folder having an average of 10-12 bookmarks.

        As things are it's impractical to organise more than a few bookmarks or folders using the QAB, but if you organise the folders thoroughly before importing them into Opera Next, you might just about manage.

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        • serious
          serious last edited by

          Originally posted by Pesala:

          No, you lose

          rather Opera loses because it cannot fit the user's needs.

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          • A Former User
            A Former User last edited by

            Originally posted by serious:

            Opera loses because it cannot fit the user's needs.

            Losers lose out because they can neither adapt to change, nor be content with an old version.

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            • ervin74
              ervin74 last edited by

              Originally posted by Pesala:

              Losers lose out because they can neither adapt to change, nor be content with an old version.

              Why should you adapt to change to something worse than before? The lack of a proper bookmark manager is ridiculous.
              That philosophy won't hold in a long run.
              What should people do with all their bookmarks? Not those with only 10-50 but those with 500 or more.
              How can they be organized, categorized or be structured in a nice pedagogical manner?

              So the question remains:
              Why do Opera hate the classic bookmark manager so much?
              Is that what you called change for the future?
              Opera 19 Developer is out now but still no bookmark manager on the horizon.

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              • A Former User
                A Former User last edited by

                Originally posted by Ervin74:

                Why should you adapt to change to something worse than before?

                You don't have to adapt if you don't want to — use the old version, which is what I am doing.

                The best philosophy is to deal with things as they are, not as you want them to be.

                If or when Opera Next is "good enough" or when Opera 12.16 is too out of date, we will all have to adapt to the way things are at that stage.

                Originally posted by Ervin74:

                Opera 19 Developer is out now but still no bookmark manager on the horizon.

                It is definitely on the horizon, as is customisability. I don't see any sign of Notes or Panels on the horizon yet.

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                • dvk-ru1
                  dvk-ru1 last edited by

                  Speed dial: 96 links, 13 folders
                  Stash: 177 links
                  QAB: not using
                  In Opera 12, when I was moving to O15, there were ~660 bookmarks, mostly rubbish.

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                  • funksoulbro
                    funksoulbro last edited by

                    I've got 169 in 26 folders. In Opera 12.16 I can access any bookmark with 2 clicks, without leaving the page I'm already on. That's the way it should work. More than 50% of the respondents have over 500 bookmarks, which is a silly amount to expect people to have on something called a "SPEED" dial.

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                    • A Former User
                      A Former User last edited by

                      Originally posted by funksoulbro:

                      More than 50% of the respondents have over 500 bookmarks, which is a silly amount to expect people to have on something called a "SPEED" dial.

                      Agreed, anything much more than 50 is a silly amount to have on speed dial, but no one has to have all of their bookmarks on speed dial — they can use the Quick Access Bar. With less than 500 bookmarks, anyone could access any bookmarks with 2 clicks without leaving the page. Depending on the length of the folder name (which can be edited) and the width of the monitor, one can fit about 10-20 folders on the QAB, with 20-30 bookmarks in each folder.

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                      • serious
                        serious last edited by

                        Originally posted by Pesala:

                        Losers lose out because they can neither adapt to change, nor be content with an old version.

                        or they just move away to other products who listen to what the users want ...

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                        • A Former User
                          A Former User last edited by

                          Originally posted by serious:

                          or they just move away to other products who listen to what the users want ...

                          This forum will be a lot better if the losers leave. The constant whining makes it hard to hear any constructive feedback. Opera really don't need to listen to the losers — they do listen to their users.

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                          • artmil
                            artmil last edited by

                            So the user should sit quietly like a mouse and be thankful for everything? What a load of bull...

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                            • A Former User
                              A Former User last edited by

                              Originally posted by artmil:

                              So the user should sit quietly like a mouse and be thankful for everything?

                              Not at all. The users should offer constructive feedback, and accept that not all things that he or she wants are possible, nor even desirable for most users.

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                              • serious
                                serious last edited by

                                Originally posted by Pesala:

                                desirable for most users

                                ... seems to be mostly Opera12, Op15+ does not even show up here: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm

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                                • funksoulbro
                                  funksoulbro last edited by

                                  Originally posted by Pesala:

                                  Originally posted by serious:

                                  or they just move away to other products who listen to what the users want ...

                                  This forum will be a lot better if the losers leave. The constant whining makes it hard to hear any constructive feedback. Opera really don't need to listen to the losers — they do listen to their users.

                                  Actually, it would be better if they paid attention to the whining, rather than the handful of fanboys who would praise opera even if had had no toolbars, no buttons, and the only website it could display is www.mylittlepony.com.

                                  As for the Quick Access Bar, in Opera 18 if you enable it, it tells you to restart Opera for the change to take effect, but when you do it goes back to being disabled. Utterly useless.

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                                  • A Former User
                                    A Former User last edited by

                                    Originally posted by funksoulbro:

                                    As for the Quick Access Bar, in Opera 18 if you enable it, it tells you to restart Opera for the change to take effect, but when you do it goes back to being disabled. Utterly useless.

                                    This is a case in point. You're just whining, not trying to resolve the issue. The QAB is working in 17, 18, and 19. Search the forum to learn how to enable it — it is disabled by default now.

                                    The fanboys are also not worth listening to either, but those repeatedly whining on the blogs for bookmarks or a Linux version, or those posting flame-bait on these forums about the imminent demise of Opera, etc., should be banned — no questions asked.

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                                    • funksoulbro
                                      funksoulbro last edited by

                                      Originally posted by Pesala:

                                      This is a case in point. You're just whining, not trying to resolve the issue. The QAB is working in 17, 18, and 19. Search the forum to learn how to enable it — it is disabled by default now.

                                      I know how to enable it. Did you even read my post? I said that when you enable it, it tells you to restart Opera, but when you do that it just goes back to being disabled again.

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                                      • A Former User
                                        A Former User last edited by

                                        Originally posted by funksoulbro:

                                        I know how to enable it.

                                        Apparently not. The opera:flags setting tells you to restart, the checkbox in Settings, shows or hides the QAB once the experimental feature has been enabled by restarting Opera.

                                        I have had enough of your antics. Go back to using Opera 12 or Firefox if you don't want to help with testing and improving Opera Next.

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                                        • funksoulbro
                                          funksoulbro last edited by

                                          *SIGH*

                                          Learn how to read and process information, because it does help a lot when it comes to having conversations.

                                          1. I go into opera:flags and enable it. It tells me to restart Opera.
                                          2. I restart Opera and it's still disabled in opera:flags, therefore there is nothing in Settings relating to it.

                                          And every time I try and enable it, it's just a rinse and repeat of the above.

                                          I know you have a reputation on here as being a bit of a tool - I've seen it mentioned on a couple of other sites (Filehippo, for example) - and now I can see how that reputation was earned.

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                                          • frenzie
                                            frenzie last edited by

                                            Originally posted by funksoulbro:

                                            1. I go into opera:flags and enable it. It tells me to restart Opera.
                                            2. I restart Opera and it's still disabled in opera:flags, therefore there is nothing in Settings relating to it.

                                            And every time I try and enable it, it's just a rinse and repeat of the above.

                                            I had that same problem previously, but in the latest 18/19 dev versions it's actually working for me.

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