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    • linuxmint7
      linuxmint7 last edited by

      You could use a USB flash drive/memory stick just for testing Linux and (if you like it) installing it to the computers internal hard drive (as dual boot) then format/wipe/blank the USB flash drive/memory stick, as it would not be needed any more.

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      • joshl
        joshl last edited by

        Linux, to give it a try, shall I have a totally empty drive?
        (It is irrelevant if it'll be a USB or SD, isn't it?)

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        • linuxmint7
          linuxmint7 last edited by

          Yes, it is best if it is empty. Do you have an empty SD card or USB flash drive/memory stick ?.

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          • joshl
            joshl last edited by

            Yes, it is best if it is empty.

            What if it's just bought, for example - should I better format it still? Or will it be not necessary?

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            • linuxmint7
              linuxmint7 last edited by

              Does it have anything on it when you look inside it on the computer ?, I'm asking because a lot of new flash drives come with software on them already, such as 'Back-up' software or 'Encryption' software. If it does have anything on it (such as the above), then yes, it is best to format it first.

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              • joshl
                joshl last edited by

                You are talking about reformatting it, there had better be nothing you can't lose there.

                Steve, what if that disc is more-than-half empty (btw, there's a fair uninterrupted space on the disc - as long as my defragmentation analysis has shown)?
                Is formatting truly necessary? Am I to lose those stored files if I try to put a Linux there as it is now?

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                • joshl
                  joshl last edited by

                  Does it have anything on it when you look inside it on the computer ?,

                  What's wrong with your punctuating skills? 😛
                  No, such new drives are not usually void. I guess I won't lose anything if I lose those... <_<

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                  • linuxmint7
                    linuxmint7 last edited by

                    Does it have anything on it when you look inside it on the computer ?,

                    What's wrong with your punctuating skills?

                    I was putting/typing it in simple terms, so as not to sound confusing.

                    No, nothing of value will be lost if you format the drive.

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                    • joshl
                      joshl last edited by

                      There perhaps is another possibility (people are talking about): what is a virtual box?

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                      • sgunhouse
                        sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                        You know that Windows now uses NTFS, while it used to use something else? You know that Mac systems use something completely different - if you were to take a drive actually formatted for OSX and plug it into Windows you won't be able to read it? Linux uses its own completely different file system. The Linux installer can chop a piece off of an existing partition to reformat for its own use, but Windows had better not have anything in that piece because a low-level reformat can not be undone.

                        While Linux can read a Windows-formatted disk. Linux uses a different set of file properties that Windows just doesn't track. Linux files have an owner and a group, they track when they were created and not just last modified ... stuff like that.

                        Virtualbox is a virtual machine (aka VM), it can allow you to run two different systems at the same time - not merely on the same hardware, but actually both running. I've never really had a use for that.

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                        • joshl
                          joshl last edited by

                          You know that Windows now uses NTFS..?

                          Have no idea. Even don't know what it is... :rolleyes:

                          The Linux installer can chop a piece off of an existing partition to reformat for its own use, but Windows had better not have anything in that piece because a low-level reformat can not be undone.

                          You mean once it's installed, it won't be messing badly with my own private files should I place them into that partition?

                          Linux files have an owner and a group, they track when they were created and not just last modified ... stuff like that.

                          🆙
                          (In my Windows though, I sorta have a "Created" property, too.)

                          Virtualbox is a virtual machine (aka VM), it can allow you to run two different systems at the same time - not merely on the same hardware, but actually both running.

                          Is it that the CPU and such things should be more powerful for that?

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                          • sgunhouse
                            sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                            Is it that the CPU and such things should be more powerful for that?

                            It helps, certainly.

                            You mean once it's installed, it won't be messing badly with my own private files should I place them into that partition?

                            It won't even be using that partition - but the partition will be smaller.

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                            • joshl
                              joshl last edited by

                              It won't even be using that partition - but the partition will be smaller.

                              Would you explain, please?
                              Like Kelly had two partitions. Then came Polly, and... What did Polly do?

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                              • sgunhouse
                                sgunhouse Moderator Volunteer last edited by

                                Polly cut off a piece of the partition (whichever one you told her to) and reformatted it ... actually making several partitions from that piece - a swap file (Linux uses a dedicated partition for a swap file) and one for the Linux OS itself. So Kelly still has two partitions, but one is smaller than it used to be.

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                                • joshl
                                  joshl last edited by

                                  So, Kelly's apples were 200g each. Let's say they were green and red.
                                  He said Polly could use the green one. Polly took that, cut a piece (say, 50g) off and returned that to Kelly. The other 150 green grams Polly used for her own purposes.
                                  Right?

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                                  • joshl
                                    joshl last edited by

                                    Will ANY new OS proceed with formatting certain space?

                                    What's there with the existing partition(s)? Will the new OS consider it/them upon installing and what (if) does it depend on/is it determined by?

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                                    • joshl
                                      joshl last edited by admin

                                      Imagine that!
                                      Just phoned Microsoft* - they said I can't update my XP to anything any more*:doh:*
                                      They said I'm gonna buy anything microscopic&soft for this machine now*:XP:*
                                      Or else - "reserve-recovery". But it'll leave me with a ~4-year-old system status - no SP3, no any-all more or less fresh malware definitions, even I guess there won't be any patches/system updates that I've received during my use of the system...

                                      I guess I'm left with an imminent Linux anyway, so...
                                      A question: can Windows partition a USB-drive?

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                                      • k-art
                                        k-art last edited by

                                        I went to Window 7 Pro x64 so I could run my older programs in XP Mode without the dual-boot hoopla.

                                        I also play with Linux Live CD's, I'm beginning to even question the need for Windows which is a little hard for a freelance graphic/web designer.

                                        I can see down the road (less than 5 years) where most things will be ported to a tablet computer.

                                        Think about a 17-20" tablet for creative's - close your mouth - your drooling ;}

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                                        • linuxmint7
                                          linuxmint7 last edited by

                                          Think about a 17-20" tablet

                                          They already exist since 2013, HP do a 21.5" Android tablet/slate.

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                                          • k-art
                                            k-art last edited by

                                            Well La-di-da... good find!

                                            Thanks for the info 😎

                                            I'm thinking more along the lines of a Windows based tablet, but only time will tell...

                                            It's hard to replace a desktop for tablet when graphic/web design is involved.

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