Opera 16 Beta for Android

  • Dear All,

    We have released an update for Opera Beta for Android.

    The change log for this update is:
    - Chromium upgrade to version 29
    - Compression method change in Off-road mode (this is the one that we would like to test as much as possible, so we have enabled it for you)
    - Improvements in download manager
    - Improved NFC communication
    - Various stability and performance fixes

    The update is available now in Google Play. All users are recommended to update.
    A huge thanks to all of you for your feedback and bug reports. Please keep an eye out for our next release!

  • still high battery drain, and very frequently "oops cat" screens.

  • No webfonts displayed on "www.html5test.com".

  • Can't access these forums while in Off-road mode, so had to turn it off already. That is to say, the cookie set by the secure login isn't passed to the forums, so you get the non-logged-in version and can't post.

  • Please opt in for Google Play Store Beta Testers program. That will be very useful.

  • Originally posted by therealankit:

    Please opt in for Google Play Store Beta Testers program. That will be very useful.

    Not really. Why would it?
    You'd only have the choice of keeping the beta or the final while currently anyone can install the beta side by side to test hassle-free.

  • Do you consider making some changes to Discover, e.g. making feed sources user selectable? Only then I would call it a feature, now it's more of an ad-spewing thing. It's okay if there is some default content there if it is removable. I feel that selecting country and categories just isn't enough - I don't want any of the stuff that's currently there. If it could be something like Flipboard, Google Currents, Vu, it would be awesome. Same goes for the desktop version, by the way, although it's more prone to customization by extensions altering Speed Dial and so on.
    By the way, it would be nice to have some bookmarks (yeah, I'm serious) in the way that imported ones from O12 Mobile are displayed. It should be possible to make them utilize folder structure, be arranged alphabetically or by date of creation.

  • After some time of use, the phone need to be restarted. (Or is there any way to rescue?) Here describes the symptoms. Touching the home button: no response. Touching the old app list button: the list shows up, but I can't switch to another app. Exiting Opera: the home screen does not show up, there is only the wallpaper. Inside Opera before exit: I can still do some operations, like switch tabs.

    My phone is Alcatel OneTouch 992D. When this happened, Opera was not in off-road mode.

  • I think it's killing the pages in the background more often, I had to watch them all reload just a moment ago and even lost typed text in a comment field. I wasn't switching to other apps at all.

    My phone got really hot also. 😢

  • Hi:

    Default enabling of Off Road Mode prevents certain web sites from updating. Androidpolice.com remained stuck on Friday, September 13th and would not update on several devices, Galaxy S3, Nexus 7 2012 & 2013, until I turned off Off Road Mode.

  • There is still no Opera Link.
    Very disapointed with Opera on Android!

  • Still no Link on desktop versions either, but they are working on it. May be available in 18 on desktop.

  • Troubles with new off-road mode.
    All sites doesn't load in off-road mode (Connection to X was interrupted message) except which are using https protocol.
    In Opera mini all works well

    Bugreport created - ANDEX-7970

  • I never have used it but I got the idea to try out the opera 16 I had my phone. OH.............. MY............ GOD
    Are you kidding me? It was so horribly bad it was just useless. Either it didn't work at all or to open or start something took like forever. It was so useless I thought it was dead or broken or frozen but it wasn't, it's just THAT bad.. and while it's busy being way dysfunctional, it also was jerky & jumpy. I think somebody poisoned it or something. It was so bad that when I was done I didn't even want to test the other 2 opera mobiles on my phone (the white 0 beta & classic). It was like depressing. Outside of that it was just fine. It took 5-10 min for a page to load & work unstabily. You would have to work pretty hard to make something like this work this poorly, so take a break. You guys deserve it! Whew

  • You should try Classic. Sounds like you have limited memory, and Classic is better with that. Though you did leave out Mini.

  • Originally posted by Nowurtalkin:

    Either it didn't work at all or to open or start something took like forever.

    Are you sure you tested the same Opera browser I have? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.browser

    Apparently you and me have the same hardware (HTC EVO V 4G in the sig = EVO 3D) so it's not a case of very limited memory (unless we're talking about available internal storage free space).
    The new Opera is not that bad, you say it like JS or page rendering was running slow or something (or maybe tab switching, it's not that smooth). If it wasn't a third-party app interfering it must have been your network. Or maybe something was up with Off-road servers or you're trying to access heavy desktop sites?

    Chromium-based browsers are really heavier than Opera Classic or Firefox right now, but they run JS/DOM faster and are more compatible with real world sites.

    BTW you posted about the final version in the topic of the beta.

  • Originally posted by sgunhouse:

    You should try Classic. Sounds like you have limited memory, and Classic is better with that. Though you did leave out Mini.[/quote

    Originally posted by sgunhouse:

    You should try Classic. Sounds like you have limited memory, and Classic is better with that. Though you did leave out Mini.[/quote

    Originally posted by sgunhouse:

    You should try Classic. Sounds like you have limited memory, and Classic is better with that. Though you did leave out Mini.

    Well, like I said, I've never too much used any of the browsers other than mini, because I've never seen any of them work as good as mini overall (even w/all the issues I've had w/mini).

    So recently I remember getting an update or something about 16 & yest I got the notion to test it out. I was a little confused about which is which, when it came time for me to choose which was the right one relating to the recent (last couple days) update or release. I already know that classic is the old 12 I think, so that left 2 & I chose one & looked at the detail & saw v16 so I figured that must be the one? In the back of my mind I was thinking the other one was like 15 or 14. I'm lost... there's too many versions avail at same time. Hang on & I'll check to make sure there ain't two 16's, so you know which one for sure I referred to...

    ... ok, it sure is confusing. I guess I technically made my post in wrong forum. They are both 16 w/nearly identical v numbers but one is beta (this forum?) & the one I tested, and reported on w/my post looks like it is not beta. I originally planned to make a current test on all 3 non minis, but the 16 was so horrible that after test, I didn't even wanna get anymore aggro w/the others, so I stopped the testing for now, esp since I was assuming that the one I was testing was supposed to be the latest, greatest, bestest opera ever & my phone isn't exactly a slouch, and I've seen lots of problems w/these android, non mini, non classic browsers, over the last near year since I had the phone & had installed all the versions to try out... So I was largely disappointed.

    As to your mention of me "leaving mini out", I don't know why you say that as 1) this is opera not mini thread & 2) I was here to specifically report on my test of the appropriate browser for this thread (except it looks like I made a mistake & mixed up which one was which, re: this thread.

    As to memory issue you surmised, can you elaborate. My phone info is on siggy & it's not too shabby on memory (I think internal is about 1 gig (?) but how much free do I need? Is that ram or different? I do have a lot of the internal memory used (maybe 70-75% used) but wait... lemme go check to see if I have it on the SD card (but cache & ram or whatever would still be internal regardless, no?

    ...ok, I checked & it's on card but I don't really know how it's all parsed out. It's like 61mb but only 7.6 on card? so it does sound like it still depends largely on the phone memory. I noted there was 30mb in cache. I don't how/why so much as I only used it to do that test. Anyway, I cleared the cache & I'll try again but I don't think it's that.

  • Originally posted by rafaelluik:

    Originally posted by Nowurtalkin:

    Either it didn't work at all or to open or start something took like forever.

    Are you sure you tested the same Opera browser I have? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.browser

    Apparently you and me have the same hardware (HTC EVO V 4G in the sig = EVO 3D) so it's not a case of very limited memory (unless we're talking about available internal storage free space).
    The new Opera is not that bad, you say it like JS or page rendering was running slow or something (or maybe tab switching, it's not that smooth). If it wasn't a third-party app interfering it must have been your network. Or maybe something was up with Off-road servers or you're trying to access heavy desktop sites?

    Chromium-based browsers are really heavier than Opera Classic or Firefox right now, but they run JS/DOM faster and are more compatible with real world sites.

    BTW you posted about the final version in the topic of the beta.

    Not sure why you provided the playstore page link, with asking me if I had same browser as you because nowhere on that pg does it make any reference (not that I could see anyway..) to what version it is, but upon further read of your post, yes, It must be same one because I see you noted I was in wrong beta forum, so it's opera 16 & according to linked pg, it was just updated (as I had noted) thus we apparently have same phone & same opera browser.

    As to how bad it was, I was too aggravated to go to in depth w/the report (oh, by the way, I just remembered...the comments at the bottom of pg you linked, weren't weren't to great either, nor have many of the past comments I've seen b4 update) but as far as what I did say, there was no exaggeration & I tried be at least slightly specific. Nothing worked. Nothing had any sort of response to speak of. I tried loading 1 or 2 sites, nothing too awful intensive I didn't think & I remember having to wait near 5 minutes just to see a pg look rendered, but another several min after that, before any interaction or scrolling was working & when it finally was alive it was jerky & unstable. I also tried to play a video from can site & it took about 10 min b4 it would start & when it did it would play for 2 seconds & buffer (or whatever it was doing) for a minute. It was about impossible to use that or anything. And I know I don't have to tell you that it's not very many days b4 the vm throttle kicks in, but ya know what, it doesn't really matter all that much, if at all, in terms of 3g, cause sprint 3g is the worst around & so when they throttle you back, I don't even notice a difference & most video is pretty playable even at 250k. No problem w/native opening & playing idea or w/uc browser.

    Phone acting up alot lately. Real quirky page views even on mini & tons of lost connections & throwing errors & getting black pg freeze-dried requiring force stop on mini (but never anywhere else) so I don't know. Oh yeah, and the single column on Opera 16 also is way not anchored properly. It flies all over the place. All I know is I find the opera browsers on this phone to be very undesirable so far, but between mini, native & uc, I can git er done (albeit w/some problems in mini). I think I've got to find some way to clear out more memory internal perhaps.

    Thx

  • My phone has 1 GB of internal memory (data storage) to store stuff, yours apparently has 4 GB because EVO V 4G is the CDMA version. Take a look at Settings -> Apps -> Downloaded tab to know how much is being used. The newest Opera stores the cache in the internal storage so if you have almost no space left it may cause problems, so you might want to move some apps or other personal files to the SD Card to give it space to breath.

    797 MB from the 1 GB of RAM can be used by apps (the rest is taken by the OS/GPU), you can see how much is being used in the tab "Running", the cached processes are simply occupying the rest of the "free" RAM displayed at the bottom of the screen and don't interfere in the performance.

    Single column mode isn't available in Opera 16, but there's a setting to enable text wrap.

    I don't have the same experience that's why I wanted to confirm we had the same Opera. So maybe you're out of internal storage space, or your mobile connection is really bad, or an app is interfering like an anti-virus or a battery saver app.

  • Originally posted by rafaelluik:

    My phone has 1 GB of internal memory (data storage) to store stuff, yours apparently has 4 GB because EVO V 4G is the CDMA version. Take a look at Settings -> Apps -> Downloaded tab to know how much is being used. The newest Opera stores the cache in the internal storage so if you have almost no space left it may cause problems, so you might want to move some apps or other personal files to the SD Card to give it space to breath.

    797 MB from the 1 GB of RAM can be used by apps (the rest is taken by the OS/GPU), you can see how much is being used in the tab "Running", the cached processes are simply occupying the rest of the "free" RAM displayed at the bottom of the screen and don't interfere in the performance.

    Single column mode isn't available in Opera 16, but there's a setting to enable text wrap.

    I don't have the same experience that's why I wanted to confirm we had the same Opera. So maybe you're out of internal storage space, or your mobile connection is really bad, or an app is interfering like an anti-virus or a battery saver app.

    Hang on... I didn't read your whole post yet just part about phone at top. Maybe i misunderstood you. I thought you had originally said you had same phone? My phone is vm ONLY. Even if you meant " = EVO 3D, they're not same phone. Same, but seriously upgraded was mine. The 3D I believe he 2.3 or something like that, o/s, while mine has 4.03 & there were some other significant upgrades as well. The internal deal is confusing when you read others blogs report on specs. I think it has a 4gig internal card (I have a 32 gig external, while 1 gig of ram I think. I'm at approx 70 to 75% there so around 250 my free currently. So if your not coma then 4get what I was saying about the throttling, as you prolly don't have that issue in place. Anyway I'll go back & read rest of your post.

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