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    • ruario
      ruario last edited by admin

      I had a look at a random thread. As I have mod access I can look at what they wrote and what actually displayed. It is fairly easy to see what the user intended and clearly the display doesn't always come out the way they hoped.

      The most common problems are:

      • Not leaving a blank line, before and after starting a list
      • Putting extra new lines in a list (a single carriage return should be used between each item)
      • Using the wrong characters as bullet points in a list. For example # or 1), rather than * or 1.
      • Not adding an extra a new line after someone is quoted (making the the reply look like part of the quote)
      • Not putting angle brackets '<>' around a URL that includes an underscore

      If we could help people avoid those mistakes, all would be good!

      P.S. I fixed the mistakes I saw in that example thread. Including a few from people who have posted here. 😉

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      • ruario
        ruario last edited by admin

        Maybe I should make an FAQ about formatting. Though I suspect it would not make a big difference.

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        • A Former User
          A Former User last edited by
          • Not adding an extra a new line after someone is quoted (making the the reply look like part of the quote)

          Do you forget the forums had different quoting rendering not so long ago?

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          • ruario
            ruario last edited by

            Do you forget the forums had different quoting rendering not so long ago?

            I think that specific mistake has always wrong since we started these forums.

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            • Deleted User
              Deleted User last edited by

              Maybe this editor is useful here.

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              • A Former User
                A Former User last edited by

                Maybe.
                Though the rendering will be executed here anyway:

                Italics

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                • ruario
                  ruario last edited by admin

                  This thread is too long and messy. Here is a new post that summarises things. Markdown often provides multiple methods of doing things. To keep things simple I only list one way and its HTML equivalent tag. Plus some notes to avoid common errors.

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                  • A Former User
                    A Former User last edited by admin

                    You can insert horizontal rules with three dashes on a line of their own line:
                    ---

                    >

                    Aha, I just checked it there in that thread.
                    What then about the underscores?


                    Yes, it looks the same as with the dashes:


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                    • A Former User
                      A Former User last edited by

                      This thread is too long and messy.

                      This thread was intended so*:D*

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                      • ruario
                        ruario last edited by

                        This thread was intended so*:D*

                        Fair enough

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                        • A Former User
                          A Former User last edited by

                          When you do want to insert a break tag using Markdown, you end a line with two or more spaces, then type return.

                          It's not exactly on the forums, but you know, in HTML5 you don't need a slash there:

                          :P, it's simpler and it works just fine*:happy:*

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                          • ruario
                            ruario last edited by

                            That quote is from the Markdown syntax guide, written in 17 Dec 2004, when self closing tags were all the rage.

                            P.S. I corrected your quote, as you actually left the out.

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                            • A Former User
                              A Former User last edited by

                              <abbr> is specifically designed for expanding abbreviations and acronyms. Not for displaying random, unrelated messages on mouseover. 😉

                              Actually, I used <abbr> 1) because I used it on MyOpera and 2) because it's inline - unlike <p>😛
                              In fact, I use not a tag - but a specific attribute (quite universal as it can appear) that can be put wherever you want (providing it's a displayed element).
                              Tooltips are funny and cheerful. The con here against MyOpera is that such elements do not differ from other content, while MyOpera's [abbr] was highlighted somehow - underdotted or like that*:)*

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                              • ruario
                                ruario last edited by

                                That does not change the fact that it is technically wrong. abbr = abbreviation. That is its only purpose, to mark acronyms or abbreviations in your text. The title attribute is there to expand to their meaning. Marking other snippets of text (which are not acronyms or abbreviations) with this tag is incorrect usage. Using the title attribute to expand to something other than the meaning is also incorrect usage.

                                Nobody is going to stop you of course but it is invalid HTML to do what you are doing.

                                Tooltips are funny and cheerful.

                                Or pointless and annoying (when used incorrectly), depending on your viewpoint of course.

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                                • A Former User
                                  A Former User last edited by

                                  That does not change the fact that it is technically wrong. abbr = abbreviation. That is its only purpose, to mark acronyms or abbreviations in your text. The title attribute is there to expand to their meaning. Marking other snippets of text (which are not acronyms or abbreviations) with this tag is incorrect usage. Using the title attribute to expand to something other than the meaning is also incorrect usage.

                                  Using the word "title" for that purpose is technically wrong.:lol:

                                  Relax - it works and is no trouble.
                                  If YOU personally wish, I could try using the inline quoting tag instead.
                                  <hr>

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                                  • ruario
                                    ruario last edited by

                                    Ok, I have no idea what you are trying to say anymore.

                                    In any case, you can (and no doubt will) do whatever you like.

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                                    • christoph142
                                      christoph142 last edited by

                                      Ok, I have no idea what you are trying to say anymore.

                                      I've been there some time ago, Ruarí, don't worry :drunk:

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                                      • linuxmint7
                                        linuxmint7 last edited by

                                        Ruarí, don't worry

                                        You're not the only one. 😃

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                                        • A Former User
                                          A Former User last edited by

                                          ...I could try using the inline quoting tag instead.

                                          Well, let me try:

                                          <q title="Afternoon, guys!"></q>

                                          It works perfectly well with "<q>", Ruario*:happy:*

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                                          • A Former User
                                            A Former User last edited by

                                            Well, I accessed the forums with another Firefox of mine (4.0), and once it seemed I couldn't see a "throughline" made by <hr>.
                                            Let me try it out:


                                            ⇧That was Markdown, dashes.


                                            ⇧That was Markdown, underscores.

                                            <hr>

                                            ⇧That was <hr>.

                                            Well, it seems to work, only that I included that "<hr>" within another HTML element, so that's possibly why.
                                            (For Ruario: yes, I tried to "make <abbr>" out of <hr>🙂)

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