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    • ruario
      ruario last edited by admin

      This thread is too long and messy. Here is a new post that summarises things. Markdown often provides multiple methods of doing things. To keep things simple I only list one way and its HTML equivalent tag. Plus some notes to avoid common errors.

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      • A Former User
        A Former User last edited by admin

        You can insert horizontal rules with three dashes on a line of their own line:
        ---

        >

        Aha, I just checked it there in that thread.
        What then about the underscores?


        Yes, it looks the same as with the dashes:


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        • A Former User
          A Former User last edited by

          This thread is too long and messy.

          This thread was intended so*:D*

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          • ruario
            ruario last edited by

            This thread was intended so*:D*

            Fair enough

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            • A Former User
              A Former User last edited by

              When you do want to insert a break tag using Markdown, you end a line with two or more spaces, then type return.

              It's not exactly on the forums, but you know, in HTML5 you don't need a slash there:

              :P, it's simpler and it works just fine*:happy:*

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              • ruario
                ruario last edited by

                That quote is from the Markdown syntax guide, written in 17 Dec 2004, when self closing tags were all the rage.

                P.S. I corrected your quote, as you actually left the out.

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                • A Former User
                  A Former User last edited by

                  <abbr> is specifically designed for expanding abbreviations and acronyms. Not for displaying random, unrelated messages on mouseover. 😉

                  Actually, I used <abbr> 1) because I used it on MyOpera and 2) because it's inline - unlike <p>😛
                  In fact, I use not a tag - but a specific attribute (quite universal as it can appear) that can be put wherever you want (providing it's a displayed element).
                  Tooltips are funny and cheerful. The con here against MyOpera is that such elements do not differ from other content, while MyOpera's [abbr] was highlighted somehow - underdotted or like that*:)*

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                  • ruario
                    ruario last edited by

                    That does not change the fact that it is technically wrong. abbr = abbreviation. That is its only purpose, to mark acronyms or abbreviations in your text. The title attribute is there to expand to their meaning. Marking other snippets of text (which are not acronyms or abbreviations) with this tag is incorrect usage. Using the title attribute to expand to something other than the meaning is also incorrect usage.

                    Nobody is going to stop you of course but it is invalid HTML to do what you are doing.

                    Tooltips are funny and cheerful.

                    Or pointless and annoying (when used incorrectly), depending on your viewpoint of course.

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                    • A Former User
                      A Former User last edited by

                      That does not change the fact that it is technically wrong. abbr = abbreviation. That is its only purpose, to mark acronyms or abbreviations in your text. The title attribute is there to expand to their meaning. Marking other snippets of text (which are not acronyms or abbreviations) with this tag is incorrect usage. Using the title attribute to expand to something other than the meaning is also incorrect usage.

                      Using the word "title" for that purpose is technically wrong.:lol:

                      Relax - it works and is no trouble.
                      If YOU personally wish, I could try using the inline quoting tag instead.
                      <hr>

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                      • ruario
                        ruario last edited by

                        Ok, I have no idea what you are trying to say anymore.

                        In any case, you can (and no doubt will) do whatever you like.

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                        • christoph142
                          christoph142 last edited by

                          Ok, I have no idea what you are trying to say anymore.

                          I've been there some time ago, Ruarí, don't worry :drunk:

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                          • linuxmint7
                            linuxmint7 last edited by

                            Ruarí, don't worry

                            You're not the only one. 😃

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                            • A Former User
                              A Former User last edited by

                              ...I could try using the inline quoting tag instead.

                              Well, let me try:

                              <q title="Afternoon, guys!"></q>

                              It works perfectly well with "<q>", Ruario*:happy:*

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                              • A Former User
                                A Former User last edited by

                                Well, I accessed the forums with another Firefox of mine (4.0), and once it seemed I couldn't see a "throughline" made by <hr>.
                                Let me try it out:


                                ⇧That was Markdown, dashes.


                                ⇧That was Markdown, underscores.

                                <hr>

                                ⇧That was <hr>.

                                Well, it seems to work, only that I included that "<hr>" within another HTML element, so that's possibly why.
                                (For Ruario: yes, I tried to "make <abbr>" out of <hr>🙂)

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                                • ruario
                                  ruario last edited by

                                  Why do you always start you --- lines with >, so that they become quoted? You really don't need to do that.

                                  Are you just trying to indent the <hr>? What is this, the early 90's where we use random tags to try and enforce styling?

                                  You realise that will likely look very broken if we change the CSS on these forums again?

                                  I'd use tags for what they intended, rather than trying to hack a style that happens to work right now but could look weird in the future.

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                                  • A Former User
                                    A Former User last edited by

                                    ..., so that they become quoted? You really don't need to do that.

                                    Always?
                                    <abbr title="Where ALWAYS?">Where?</abbr>


                                    You realise that will likely look very broken if we change the CSS on these forums again?

                                    I don't mind you either changing it or not - the thread is about the current formatting now and will always be about the (then) current formatting.
                                    And I doubt you can (will) change it so that proper HTML might stop working*:P*


                                    I'd use tags for what they intended, rather than trying to hack a style that happens to work right now but could look weird in the future.

                                    1. I don't mind that - about some future.
                                    2. I doubt if there'll be much changes: HTML5 is fairly new now; it's rather more possible (or might happen sooner) that these forums' rendering will change...[Oops! Embedding images here stopped working both ways! Both "![](link)" and "![](link)"😕]
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                                    • ruario
                                      ruario last edited by

                                      Always? Where?

                                      Ok, often then

                                      And I doubt you can (will) change it so that proper HTML might stop working

                                      No but quotes might get styled differently. So it will likely always remain readable but could look odd.

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                                      • A Former User
                                        A Former User last edited by

                                        [Oops! Embedding images here stopped working both ways! Both "![](link)" and ...]

                                        O'k, I'm gonna test that - in another thread (another board) a smilie from that same source behaved quite alright!


                                        WORKS!
                                        Why didn't it THEN!??

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                                        • ruario
                                          ruario last edited by

                                          I edited you post for quick check and it worked for me—I have subsequently removed my test edit.

                                          P.S. I see that your smilie's are once again quoted for unknown reasons.

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                                          • A Former User
                                            A Former User last edited by admin

                                            I see that your smilie's are once again quoted for unknown reasons.
                                            >

                                            Look, I don't know why you DON'T KNOW the [obvious] reason. I suggest you try, and this'll be your homework.
                                            (If it's happening because you hold the quoting functionality ONLY literally, then simply try to forget it.)

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