Opera no longer notifies when NEW versiion is available ???

  • I have 2 QUESTIONS before I give details >>>>> I amusing Win XP and Opera 12.16 >>>>>>

    1) I read some posts before posting this message and one person posted this = Opera 18 Bookmars/Toolbar/Quick Access Bar Gone?
    I assume the QUICK ACCESS BAR is the bunch of icons at the top of my Opera screen and which is separate from BOOKMARKS.I give one click to go to a site. True that this has been removed ??

    2) In the past, Opera would pop up messages about a NEW version is available..........I no longer get them.........every time I clicked on HELP and CHECK FOR UPDATES = I got a message saying I am using the LATEST version of Opera..........see the rest below >>>>>>

    I am running Win XP with Opera 12.16.
    In the past, Opera would always alert me to a NEWER version is available.
    I have made NO changes to any settings in Opera over all the previous versions I've used.
    When there was a newer version, I just clicked INSTALL and Opera did its thing.

    When I click on About Opera, I get this information >>>>>>

    Version information
    Version 12.16
    Build 1860
    Platform Win32
    System Windows XP

    Browser identification
    Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1) Presto/2.12.388 Version/12.16

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    However when I click on CHECK FOR UPDATES - Opera says I am using the LATEST version already.

    Yet, when I go to FILE HIPPO ( download site ), I find all these NEWER versions of Opera >>>>

    Opera 18.0.1284.63
    Released: 09 Dec 2013 (3 weeks ago)
    Technical Details | Change Log
    Opera 18.0.1284.49
    Released: 19 Nov 2013 (6 weeks ago)
    Technical Details | Change Log
    Opera 17.0.1241.53
    Released: 23 Oct 2013 (2 months ago)
    Technical Details | Change Log
    Opera 17.0.1241.45
    Released: 09 Oct 2013 (2 months ago)
    Technical Details | Change Log
    Opera 16.0.1196.80
    Released: 25 Sep 2013 (3 months ago)
    Technical Details | Change Log
    Opera 16.0.1196.73
    Released: 05 Sep 2013 (3 months ago)
    Technical Details | Change Log
    Opera 16.0.1196.62
    Released: 27 Aug 2013 (4 months ago)
    Technical Details | Change Log
    Opera 15.0.1147.153
    Released: 02 Aug 2013 (5 months ago)
    Technical Details | Change Log
    Opera 15.0.1147.148
    Released: 19 Jul 2013 (5 months ago)
    Technical Details | Change Log
    Opera 15.0.1147.141 Opera 15.0.1147.141
    Released: 11 Jul 2013 (5 months ago)
    Technical Details | Change Log
    Opera 15.0.1147.138
    Released: 10 Jul 2013 (5 months ago)
    Technical Details | Change Log
    Opera 15.00
    Released: 02 Jul 2013 (6 months ago)
    Technical Details | Change Log
    Opera 15.00 Next Beta 1 (Build 1147.18)
    Released: 29 May 2013 (7 months ago)
    Technical Details | Change Log
    Opera 12.16
    Released: 08 Jul 2013 (5 months ago)
    Technical Details | Change Log

    Any idea WHY this is happening without any notification to a NEWER version being available ???

    Thanks in advance.

  • They decided not to autoupdate Opera 12.16 users, because Opera 15+ is basically developed from scratch. They replaced the engine with blink (the engine of Google chrome) and had to discard the old graphical user interface, because it was probably to coupled to the presto-engine. Until now Opera 18 is still missing some features users of Opera 12.16 would like to see and therefore autoupdate for 12.16 users is still disabled. Maybe they change that later, when they think Opera 15+ has done enough progress.

    But you can update to Opera 18 on your own if you want to. This is your decision depending on which features you need.
    http://www.opera.com/computer
    http://www.opera.com/help/computer

    M2 (the Opera mail client) is now a standalone application. The RSS-Reader, which was basically part of M2 is therefore also removed from the Opera Browser. But there is a nice extension, which adds that feature to Opera 15+:
    http://addons.opera.com/extensions/details/rss-detector/
    https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/smart-rss/

    Further the IRC-Client, Bittorrent, Notes and other stuff are removed from Opera 15+, but there are also some new features.

  • Because Opium (Opera 15+) is crap and they (Opera ASA) know it. SCNR

    Opera 12.16 is still latest "real" Opera (and probably won't get any update anymore). If you want to try the Chrome-alike, go ahead and download it from the website (of your choice) and get meaningless updates every few weeks. You might understand the problems some people have with the new version better then.

  • @Mudbug

    1. Opera ASA managed to confuse not only you but every user who isn't a regular of these forums.
    2. The confusion was made on purpose.

    1.
    All Opera versions till/including 12.xx are the same product. All Opera versions from/including 15 upwards are a different product.
    The resemblances between Opera 12.xx and Opera 15 (and upwards) are alike the resemblances between Chrome, Firefox or Internet Explorer. More precisely, none except the fact that all are browsers.

    2.
    Most of the sites that offer software for download have (user) rated their offerings through some stars.
    Opera 12.xx has quite good ratings on such sites.
    Imagine Opera ASA would have given a distinct new name to their new product, starting with version number 1.
    It wouldn't have inherited the favorable user ratings of the old product and would have to start with its own merits.
    Besides, users already using Opera would have been warned that it is a totally new product.
    How many stars would you give Opera 18? Don't need to tell me. My question was only rhetorical to give you an idea.
    With poor ratings (stars) very few people would download a software even for testing.
    On the other hand, as it stands, even good ratings can't be a guaranty for the software you are downloading.

  • Originally posted by Krake:

    On the other hand, as it stands, even good ratings can't be a guaranty for the software you are downloading.

    Very true.

  • Originally posted by Krake:

    ...
    2. The confusion was made on purpose.
    ...
    2. Most of the sites that offer software for download have (user) rated their offerings through some stars.
    Opera 12.xx has quite good ratings on such sites.
    Imagine Opera ASA would have given a distinct new name to their new product, starting with version number 1.
    It wouldn't have inherited the favorable user ratings of the old product and would have to start with its own merits.
    Besides, users already using Opera would have been warned that it is a totally new product.
    How many stars would you give Opera 18? ...

    Do you know all this to be the accurate reason (through Opera or industry sources), or is it a theory/guess?

  • @blackbird71

    Nope. Neither do I have industry sources nor do I know a whistle blower from Opera ASA. So, you can call it Krake's wild guess 🙂
    However, it doesn't need a genius to put some facts together...

  • +1

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