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Why would you destroy Opera?

  • The reason why inOperate = Chrode is because I firmly believe that the devs were told by Opera that if they make it look like Chrode then some company will buy it for $$$ millions and that the devs will get a big chunk of that pie. Its all about money my friend. I still use to this day Opera 11.52. And I love it!!

    Adding insult to injury, the stupid forum rules say that you cant comment negatively on inOperate because if you do, you might dissuade potential buyers (speculating companies) from buying inOperate.

    I'm going to launch a thread urging all those die-hard Opera loyalists to join forces with me and in unison, voice our concerns in bringing Opera back. If the mods dont like it thats too bad.

  • The reason why inOperate = Chrode is because I firmly believe that the devs were told by Opera that if they make it look like Chrode then some company will buy it for $$$ millions and that the devs will get a big chunk of that pie. Its all about money ...

    Of course, you're free to believe whatever you want... but that doesn't make it reality.

    Adding insult to injury, the stupid forum rules say that you cant comment negatively on inOperate because if you do, you might dissuade potential buyers (speculating companies) from buying inOperate.

    Reference, please. What forum rules anywhere say anything like that?

    I'm going to launch a thread urging all those die-hard Opera loyalists to join forces with me and in unison, voice our concerns in bringing Opera back. If the mods dont like it thats too bad.

    And that will differ from all the other similar threads exactly how?

  • I'm trying to think of another instance where a company has eliminated so many features in a software update.
    I suppose it probably happened with Mac OS 9 going to OS X, but I think it was better explained then that it was a completely new operating system, which was needed for the sake of stability and streamlining.
    While presumably the same rationale could be used for starting from scratch in creating a new version of Opera, Opera is a browser, not an OS. The switch from OS9 to OSX was a huge pain for many users, but they really had no choice if they wanted to use a modern Apple product.

    In the case of browsers, we already have a pretty tough market. Chrome and Firefox are extremely stable with good market share, and IE is a Microsoft product. The only reason people ever used Opera was for its incredibly unique functionality. I'm not sure how Opera ASA thinks they are going to gain market share by making a less-functional browser that is more similar to browsers which most people already use and are content with.

  • It isn't a software update. It's a complete re-write from scratch.

  • Which is why I said in my previous post "starting from scratch in creating a new version of Opera."
    The average person who goes to the website and sees Opera v20 will assume it's an update of previous versions since they have kept the same name and increased the version number above 12. Which engenders all the confusion and hysteria.

  • leushino

    "Opera Presto was bloated"
    what do you mean? it was smaller than v.20 and had more integrated features.

    "18 years is a long time to remain hovering around the 3% mark"
    -stats are disputable. these indicate that blink opera does not have a larger market share than presto. (http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp).

    there are many sources, and its hard to pin down. this article indicates opera is down this year, hovering at 1.23%. i'm not saying they're up or down, just that i doubt they're taking the world by storm. it seems to me you need to maintain a positive projection to pacify shareholders.

    http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2014/03/04/mozilla-firefox_chrome_internet-explorer_browser_market_share_february

    this site indicates its at 1.28% if the old 3% was true of presto, 1.28 percent doesn't sound good.
    http://www.sitepoint.com/browser-trends-january-2014-yearly-review/

    In terms of stock prices, analysts are recommending to buy opera stock. Its stock doubled over the course of 2013. That's a good indication. They are offering more shares for sale in an attempt to get capital to try and expand their market usage. Analysts seem optimistic, but we'll have to wait to see if it congeals. Given the browser usage stats, I think it's still too early to tell.

  • "Opera Presto was bloated"
    what do you mean? it was smaller than v.20 and had more integrated features.

    What doesn't mean that it cant' be considered bloated. At least by some people.

    In fact, when Opera started to add features like e-mail client and others to Opera there were a lot od comments saying "OMG, what are you doing? You are turning Opera into a bloated software". To tell the truth, when Opera released its first build/version that no longer fit on a floppy disk, there were already complains like that.

  • Because Opera has been taken over by secret agents from Microsoft, Mozilla, and Google who are bent on a nefarious conspiracy to drive their competition out of business? Because Opera personnel have a hidden psychological compulsion to destroy their own jobs and the source of their income? Because some key folks at Opera sat down in a board meeting and said, "Hey, it's cold outside today... let's wreck the company!"

    :shocked: It is true.
    It might've been S.A.D. or something - Norway is a very murky country: too little light in winter - they suffered, apathy, depression, berserk syndrome...

  • Why on earth are you replying to a thread last posted to a year ago, quoting a post from eighteen months ago?!
    😃

  • Why on earth are you replying to a thread last posted to a year ago, quoting a post from eighteen months ago?!

    A spam post (already deleted) has bumped the thread and he probably didn't notice the date.

    It's better to have that thread closed as its relevance today is dubious... If anyone still has anything new to add to the subject, any complaints, suggestions, etc, you're very welcome to join other threads or create a new one when appropriate. 😉

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