Sad to be saying goodbye

  • 😞

    I've been using Opera as my main browser for almost 15 years. I just installed the latest version and a lot seemed missing - it's not too different from Firefox or Chrome now. I miss my RSS feed, I miss having control over what I do on the web. I reinstalled version 12 but it wouldn't let me download extensions, such as the essential adblock. So that's it. There's no reason now to stay with Opera. Rather than being ahead of the rest, it's now playing copycat, dumbing down. I've been trying Firefox today, but I miss the slick old Opera interface. Ah well, we had some good times, but times are changing I guess.

    Really, I am sad that an independent browser has departed.

    It seems we are being herded by the googles and facebooks of the world.

    Perhaps it's time to spend less time on the internet.

  • I just installed the AdBlock Extension on 12.16 without any problems.

  • I don't see why so much bitching around when even v11.5x & 11.6x work just fine
    dare I say that still 80% webpages don't use real CSS 3 to which whole v11 has like 85% support

    anything above 12 cannot be considered a browser
    just look at them, they jumping already to version 20 and damn thing sucks beyond anything in history
    you'd be lucky if you run that thing without 1 crash in 1st 20 minutes

  • OK I've just installed adblock in opera 12.16 (portable). Previously when I went to the site it said I was using an old browser and wouldn't let me install.

  • Originally posted by greekonsun:

    I don't see why so much bitching around when even v11.5x & 11.6x work just fine ...

    They work just fine in many cases, but they also contain public-record unpatched security vulnerabilities. That may or may not matter to users, depending on their security protection layers and the places to which they browse. The risk of a version's vulnerabilities being "custom-exploited" via the information in its UA or via Javascript methods grow as the age of the browser version increases. A number of "bad" sites have an entire array of exploits to throw at a browser, depending on which version it identifies itself as. Just something to keep in mind...

  • Firmly back on Opera 12.16 now (still the portable version). But trying out Firefox (I'm sick of google everywhere, so I haven't got Chrome) made me realise how much I like Opera. It's fast to start and responsive, I love having RSS and mail to hand in the browser, it is customisable just enough, and it has the necessary adblocking. It doesn't get in the way of browsing, but allows me to get what I want fast. I guess I'll stick with it until it finally breaks down. 🙂

  • Originally posted by freechess:

    ... But trying out Firefox (I'm sick of google everywhere, so I haven't got Chrome) made me realise how much I like Opera. ...

    There is a thread that extensively discusses alternatives to Old Opera and may be of some interest to you, if you haven't already scanned it: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=14863892

  • Thanks, blackbird71, I hadn't read this. Very interesting.

  • Oh, I forgot to mention, I also like the little notes panel. Simple and effective. Insert note: great for my mobile number! 🙂

    It's the little things! In Firefox, I have to find an extension to do that, and then it'll probably do 100 other things as well which I won't use and will waste my time...

    I love the Opera integrated package!

    Though Seamonkey as a live concern might be useful in the future. I hadn't heard of it before.

  • Originally posted by freechess:

    ... It's the little things! In Firefox, I have to find an extension to do that, and then it'll probably do 100 other things as well which I won't use and will waste my time... I love the Opera integrated package!

    Indeed! I'm honestly not sure Opera today fully understands what they once had - particularly since they've now moved toward out-sourcing so many features to extensions. All too often, extensions end up being overly complex compared with just supplying the basic function for which they really exist (in order for the extension developer to distinguish his product from similar ones). Then there's the whole incompatibility fiasco that too often arises with extensions when the browser version gets bumped and the extensions get broken, simply because the extensions are not coded by the same folks that code the browser (as they are when the functions are native).

    Originally posted by freechess:

    Though Seamonkey as a live concern might be useful in the future. I hadn't heard of it before.

    You may find Seamonkey a little archaic and obtuse appearing, compared to more modern-looking interfaces. It's a fork off Mozilla code whose user interfaces haven't been updated as much as Firefox... which you may consider either a blessing or a fault.

  • After so many years, I'm leaving too (I'll give FF a try).
    It's really frustrating to see how opera managed to change so much to become just a bad copy of chromium. It's appalling how so many good features were discarded, and how obvious the change in the target market has been: like you didn't care at all about old affectionate users.
    I've been using OperaNext as a "sidekick" to opera ever since it came out, as it took chrome place of browsing those websites which opera couldn't handle, but I wouldn't believe the official Opera would stick with that meagre feature set that was implemented in Next.

    I stand by this message as a statement of my own: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=1709012
    I miss all of the features there listed, and more (what about password synchronization, notes synchronization, dot shortcut for inline search.. )

    I'm really sad

  • I have been loyal user of Opera longer than you guys relative newbies, and I don't bitch around. I used opera since version 1.0xx something way before it at introduced tabs. I remember the humbly beginnings about 17 years ago.

    And despite of that I cheer opera's decision and I support it.

    I still think Opera development team is the best and now combining the best tools can produce the best browser.

    Yeh - just fight against the current - the world is moving into one of the directions, and that is nothing really that Opera can do about. They soon realize the revenue from Google searches would disappear with the number of users around the world replacing feature phones running opera mini with smart phones running Android.

    Today it's not about staying miserable by preaching standards if nobody follows them anyways, so what's the point of Opera to follow standards that nobody does?

    I believe Opera has en excellent chance to become defacto default browser on Android devices. I don't like Chromo browser, the interface sucks but Opera brings the classic interface while investing in the future. They are adding a lot of things, there is here and there many things missing, Opera Link, odd download page, extensions, deep configuration tooo limited.

    But I trust Opera team wants to do more than just copy Chrome, there are plenty that already do it.

    By the way - since I used Mac OSX couple of years now, I wasn't able to run Opera without CPU running close to 80%.

    That is completely resolved with new Opera Chrome. There are tens of thousands of Mac users who had issues about the CPU usage in the old Opera.

    As for as Firefox goes - go ahead. Nobody is preventing you to go to Firefox, but you will get what you get. I still see Opera superior to Firefox even with many things now missing.

    Cheers.

  • Originally posted by polocanada:

    As for as Firefox goes - go ahead. Nobody is preventing you to go to Firefox, but you will get what you get. I still see Opera superior to Firefox even with many things now missing.

    Firefox is so horrible: crashes on me constantly!

    I have an Aussie friend who fought and fought to turn me onto Opera instead of me using IE. I finally made the switch and now I can't stand anything else. This was probably around version 8 of Opera. I hated Opera 15 but realize now the developers were still improving on it. I stuck with the latest build of Opera 12 as long as I could until it finally crashed and burned. I wasn't pleased when this happened and couldn't get into using Firefox (hate it) or IE (hate it even more). I finally installed Opera 18 and though I'm still trying to figure a few little things out, I'm finding I'm liking it very much and let it update each time so sitting well with Opera 19. Now I look forward to each improvement.

    Someone mentioned Opera 19 crashing. I've not had a problem. Right now I have more than 30 tabs open and it's running very well. As far as Opera 20 in the works, they [the developers] are merely improving on a great browser.

    BTW, my Aussie friend that originally turned me onto Opera, won't touch it now and there's no moving her! Oh well, her loss.

    I would like to thank Pesala and blackbird71 for all your help in answering my questions as I've transitioned from Opera 12.16 to the latest. You've been wonderful!

  • Man, it sure is refreshing to read the last two posts. Finally we're getting some positive feedback from users who understand that Opera is under development and NOT feature complete ... yet. It's just great to see a positive spin for a change. Thanks, Guys.

  • It's my pleasure leushino! I do use the other browsers simply because I have 3 Pinterest accounts and like to be able to work on them without having to logout of one and into another. But Opera 19 is my primary. The others are total crap IMO. Firefox especially.

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