OPERA 23.0 a serious 'step-back' for us

lem729

lem729

I did provide the link to the Chrome Store for extensions, but forgot to include the link to the Opera add-on store, so here it is.

https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/?ref=menu

This link can also be reached by clicking on the Opera Menu, and then on "Get Extensions."

Also Cheers-n-Beers

Burp.

billslaststand

billslaststand

Thanks for your effort, Lem. I HAD NOT thought of applying Chrome [or Firefox] extensions to OPERA 23.0. Like when I upgrade to a new Ferrari, I expect it to come with wheels as well as a V-12 engine! All kidding aside, comparing the search, install, learn of Add-Ons...with "Manage Bookmarks"? I admit that while I follow your excellent tutorial, I have NOT done it. I wonder how the managed book-marks are presented 'your' way? One of the super features 'We' love is the 'panel' method that 12.x uses to present the bookmarks. Stable 'panels' are MUCH easier on 'experienced' eyeballs than miles of scrolling...as was FireFox before I found OPERA! It is not unusual for Mrs. Bill to go to her bookmarks, click Gardening folder...click Blueberry sub-folder...click Methods of Mulch subfolder...THEN click 'Open All Folder Items'. Maybe you can see what I'm up against! If your Add-On method will actually accommodate HER need, I may well try it.

Once again, thanks for your time. I'm a lousy typer, so I know it can take time to produce what you have....

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igelmitdeagle

igelmitdeagle

So the new Opera is like Chrome without proper bookmarks? Nice!

lem729

lem729

So the new Opera is like Chrome without proper bookmarks? Nice!

I guess you can't read. Does Chrome have a speed dial (with folders)? No. Do they have Discover? No. Do they have Stash? No way. Do they have Off Road Mode? Not at all. Do they use Opera bookmarks from the Add-On store. They do not. Now Opera has bookmarks, for sure only you can, if you chose, use a few extensions, to refine and make perfect the experience. Some people are happy without using the extensions. For them, what's there is enough. And with the Speed Dial and Stash (also, huge bookmarking possibilities not present in Chrome), Opera and has more than Chrome. It's a lot better than Chrome, in my view. So put that in your pipe, and smoke it.

lem729

lem729

Thanks for your effort, Lem. I HAD NOT thought of applying Chrome [or Firefox] extensions to OPERA 23.0. Like when I upgrade to a new Ferrari, I expect it to come with wheels as well as a V-12 engine! All kidding aside, comparing the search, install, learn of Add-Ons...with "Manage Bookmarks"? I admit that while I follow your excellent tutorial, I have NOT done it. I wonder how the managed book-marks are presented 'your' way? One of the super features 'We' love is the 'panel' method that 12.x uses to present the bookmarks. Stable 'panels' are MUCH easier on 'experienced' eyeballs than miles of scrolling...as was FireFox before I found OPERA! It is not unusual for Mrs. Bill to go to her bookmarks, click Gardening folder...click Blueberry sub-folder...click Methods of Mulch subfolder...THEN click 'Open All Folder Items'. Maybe you can see what I'm up against! If your Add-On method will actually accommodate HER need, I may well try it.
Once again, thanks for your time. I'm a lousy typer, so I know it can take time to produce what you have....
B

First, I didn't say you can use Firefox extensions. I said either Opera add-ons, or Chrome extensions. Now you refer to panels, you can get panels via extensions too. You just need to do a little work to find the extension. It takes a little . . . Work. Hmmm. It's not terrible. Billslaststand, you appear to want everything in the basic model, that is, the native browser,so you don't have to do any work (dream on!), but the problem is that everyone wants different things. Now the Bookmarks Manager extensions I cited (Chrookmarks for Chrome, or Neater Bookmarks) give you a nice vertical display of your bookmarks, when you click on the extension icon, and they are stable. I use Chrookmarks and like it. And I used the old Opera for a long time before that (almost a decade), and Firefox as a second browser). I have no problem with handling bookmarks with the new Opera, with the suggestions I passed along to you, which I use. Indeed, you'll have no problem easily creating your folders and subfolders. That's going to make handling your b'zillion bookmarks (one hopes very easy for you.

If Opera were able to give everyone what they want, they'd end up with bloatware, not a browser, and it costs the company time and money to produce that too. And it is a free product. Lol. So if you want certain features, let your fingers do the dancing, and go to the extensions pages I referred you to, and add the extension. It's no big deal. It's really, well . . . easy to do. And you can delete the extension a nano second if you don't like it.

Now let me mention one small thing. Opera had to switch browser engine from Opera Presto to Opera Blink. It did so, in order to be able to get a faster browser, and also one that could access sites better than the old browser engine could. This switch of engines was very useful to making the browser -- long-term -- better, but everything had to be re-programmed. Opera is still in the process of re-programming so some features that you like may actually come back in the future. Many may never come back because with available extensions they may no longer be needed. On this extension issue. You ought to take the time to try downloading some, and getting them to work. Once you see how easy it is to do it, it will be liberating.

And have you taken the time to create folders in your speed dial, by dragging one speed dial thumbnail on top of another. If not, then try it, as you will see there's huge potential there also for organizing some of your favorites, and being able to display a lot more in less space, than you ever could with the old speed dial.

Have a great day!

billslaststand

billslaststand

It IS a great day. A tad warm but for here at My Last Stand, but the Summer-Folk are no doubt enjoying it.

Well, I'm an old electronics technician and frankly I don't mind chasing and trying anything. Heck, worst thing that can happen is I run my Recovery DVD set....again. My operating problem is across the room. I only run what SHE does so I can answer her questions, etc. IF OPERA doesn't crank out a 'like old times' bookmark Add-On, when snow flies I may well try what you suggest on MY machine. My reference to FireFox was either dirt under my fingernails or a 'leap to conclusion' since I see the latest and greatest F/F uses the same Open Source browser grit that Chrome does; fergive me.

Fun-n-Games, I guess. You must be a 'man of leisure', too...to haunt these Forums and type as much as you do.

Ooops...'Happy Hour' time.....!

Deleted User

Deleted User

I would describe lem as a treasure trove of help and good-will. Just my two cents.

billslaststand

billslaststand

OH! No complaints nor ill will from here... that's for sure............

pjn0524

pjn0524

The problem I'm having with Opera 23 is that none of my settings stay enabled once I exit the browser. NONE of them. Every time I open Opera, I have to go in and recheck the boxes to download where I want and show the bookmarks bar. EVERY TIME. That sucks. I'm downloading & installing an earlier version right now, in the (faint) hope that this screwup will be fixed. Wish me luck!

lem729

lem729

Thank you, leushino. I appreciate your kind comment.

And pjn0524, that's crazy. I saw someone posting on this elsewhere. It might have been you. Did you check for malware, and viruses. People seem to like the program Malwarebytes. And Adwcleaner. No way does that normally happen with Opera.

Also, there have been issue with CC Cleaner and the Chrome Browser. Since Opera 23 uses the Chromium engine (same as Chrome uses), you need to be aware of it. People complain that Chrome resets itself every time they run cc cleaner, or that the preferences are messed up. Here are a few links. If you google search it, you can find more.

https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/Ufm26MK3Eis
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/m7cRJGhfA10

http://forum.piriform.com/?showtopic=40471

http://forum.piriform.com/?showtopic=40032

http://forum.piriform.com/?showtopic=39065

http://forum.piriform.com/?showtopic=38511

Are you still using CC Cleaner. Maybe you have it on an automatic setting. Do you have the latest update. And you could try another program. I believe I mentioned in the other post of yours SlimCleaner.

If it's not malware/viruses, or CC Cleaner, you may need to copy your profile to a backup, and then do a clean install. See if with the clean install, the problem is there. Maybe there's something corrupt in the profile. You can with the copy of the profile, add your bookmarks, speed dial, stash back to the profile of that clean install, and if everything is okay then, not copy the whole profile back. There's a folder, aptly called "Preferences" in it with your preferences , and maybe that file is a problem, corrupt, whatever . . .

lem729

lem729

I meant to say that in the profile there's a file called "Preferences." It's not a folder.