Opera 15 is a DISASTER
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Deleted User last edited by
Originally posted by vabopi:
I hate to admit that Opera committed suicide. My default browser for so many years is no more. I have just tried v.16 hoping for a miracle that did not happen, It crashed when I tried to load the v.12 Bookmarks as suggested.
Gave up... keeping v.12 as a memento only, sadly!Indeed. Version 16 is slightly better (it has my bookmarks & passwords), but where's the rest of it? It looks like they're trying to emulate Stainless browser (!!!), which itself is a novelty proof of concept browser that has tons of things missing.
I'm not sure what it is they're trying to achieve. When we see a newer version, we expect it to be an improvement of what's gone before. They've gone too far with making things idiot proof that it's insulting. I'll stick to Opera 12.
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Deleted User last edited by
They're in the process of rewriting the entire browser from the ground up and that's why some of the features are not present. As each new version is presented, features are added. If version 12 suits your needs now, then stick with version 12 and keep an eye on the new browser. Just be aware that version 12 is the last Presto browser in that line.
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vabopi last edited by
Originally posted by leushino:
They're in the process of rewriting the entire browser from the ground up and that's why some of the features are not present. As each new version is presented, features are added.....
So they should name it as being Opera Next or a beta version until it is fully re-written. Naming it v.14 or v.15 is misleading, that thing should never be publicly showed as a final release.
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Deleted User last edited by
But they've chosen to do otherwise so either go along with the new browser or stick with the older version.
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kamialll last edited by
my experience on Andro-Tablet:
The BEST Opera mobile is V.12. Labs!!!
It works stable, minor crashes, Sesson are restored 80%(since month using a old tablet with 2.3.1andro), on Andro 4.1 it is the best User Experence.
Userfriendly, easy to use, bookmarks are in all devices synchronised: Win 7, Win mobile 6.1, Blackberry, Andro-tablet 4.1Suggestions:
- Session restore Option like in Desktop-version on Win7
- bookmark file (Export features)
- default player settingsMerci Opera!
Back to the roots
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elrice last edited by
Sorry but have installed Opera 12 (now called opera classic), Opera Mini, Opera 16 & Opera Next.
Opera mini is just plain crap... constant page refresh, poor caching and missing basic css support. Opera classic is crowded and overall a mess. The Blink builds are a huge improvement although still issues in reporting cache volumes to Android system. Currently moving most between FF and new Opera builds although Dolphin still gets fair amount of use...
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rumpel23 last edited by
Oh, dear. Guilty as charged, scratchspace. I guess I was too upset with what Opera ASA has done with v15 in both the Windows and Android versions.
Ooops. Maybe I shouldn't have said that. It'll probably set leushino off again. :devil:
(And yes, I did find a way to get back to Android v12.10. It wasn't hard once I started looking.)
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Deleted User last edited by
Originally posted by Rumpel23:
Oh, dear. Guilty as charged, scratchspace. I guess I was too upset with what Opera ASA has done with v15 in both the Windows and Android versions.
Ooops. Maybe I shouldn't have said that. It'll probably set leushino off again. :devil:
(And yes, I did find a way to get back to Android v12.10. It wasn't hard once I started looking.)
Indeed. Shift the focus onto me rather than admit to your being a hypocrite. I've big shoulders. BTW... your :devil: smiley is very appropriate under the circumstances. :lol:
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Deleted User last edited by
Wellllll... it was a confession of sorts (sort of a "Yeah I was guilty but look at so-and-so"). :whistle: However, you're quite right. I AM guilty as charged. I'm going to take seriously the injunction regarding - "judge not, lest I be judged" I guess. Okay. Time to push away from the computer and watch some Netflix. There's always tomorrow to be a better person, eh?!
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angrycustumer last edited by
I have created this account just to express my extreme anger for you,opera developers!
No more bookmark menu at all...realy???? -if i wanna access my imense bookmark list i have to create that stupid incredibly long tile thing????
Wasnt it bad befoe,when i had to open the settings to look for my bookmarks,cose the damn thing didnt alowed me to put a bookmark button on the bar,now i have to scroll a STUPID infinite tile -witch i canot convert to a list,nore zoom out a bit,to find a page...
PUT A DAMN BOOKMARK BUTTON WITH A LIST THERE!!!
And if i try to tipe it in the search bar,no sugestions apear,as in firefox...i'm directed at some random popular pages instead!!!Ofcourse,i canot select a language at all to...
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A Former User last edited by
Originally posted by angrycustumer:
Ofcourse,i canot select a language at all to.
Your language is unacceptable here.
Just install any previous version that you prefer.
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angrycustumer last edited by
Why i canot put bookmarks in stash instead? -i have to open the pages one at the time,and mark them to have a list in "stash",if i want a list!
I will use firefox i gues...good job!
And ofcourse i am talking about opera 17 here,not 15. -
angrycustumer last edited by
Took me one hour to open each page and mark it to stash...and is not even in alphabetical order or something...
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A Former User last edited by
Originally posted by angrycustumer:
Took me one hour to open each page
It takes only 5 minutes to install a previous version. Why are you wasting your time? You could use the Quick Access Bar if you must use Opera 17.
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gregopathe last edited by
Originally posted by leushino:
Originally posted by spartaa:
Good stuff, Spartaa! Not sure why so many believe they are being "forced" to update when the older versions are still available and receiving security updates.
Because I don't know for you but everything for win7 64bit display very slow, crash if you have 3 tabs on youtube (not playing), crash on facebook, I mean it's just constantly crashing. Get older, newer release, no difference. OTOH Opera "chromium" is stable and fast like opera once was (in my XP, 32 bits day) although indeed retarded in terme of customisation to a point it's embarrassing.
Opera team really has been delusionnal. Opera's user as, by nature, people demanding with their browser. Making a new version that change the behaviour of many thing for no improvement on the long run use, break the signature speed dial feature (refresh every 30 min... Nah, just kidding) and... I hardly can believe what I am typing... don't handle bookmarks... I mean, what were they thinking ? This is not Opera 15 (or 18). Opera 5, maybe ?
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Deleted User last edited by
Originally posted by Gregopathe:
I hardly can believe what I am typing... don't handle bookmarks... I mean, what were they thinking ? This is not Opera 15 (or 18). Opera 5, maybe ?
It handles my bookmarks quite nicely on the QAB. I have folders set up and my bookmarks are nested within. Look, if you don't like Opera 18, use an older version (i.e. v 12.16). Security patches are still being written so you should be perfectly fine. What is your problem?
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kamialll last edited by
Opera-team! Please ask your developer from the early 2008 for the basic idea of mobile browsing and than create something for USERS.
You are analysing a large amount of user data without taking in consideration of 'WHO is using' and 'HOW they are using'.
And this is the result in new Opera mobile.
Please ask a professional Designer what are the easy moves with the hand, tactile sense, and many other..., before ending in tendovaginitis.I don't prefer answers like: "...you can use lower versions" or "... than use Firefox or Chrom"...
This are answers of people which are 'cooking only their own soup ' .Thanks for your understanding!
(I'am using Opera mobile since V. 8 on Win mobile)
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Deleted User last edited by
Originally posted by kamialll:
You are analysing a large amount of user data without taking in consideration of 'WHO is using' and 'HOW they are using'.
How do YOU know the methods by which Opera is analyzing its user base data? Do you work for Opera and therefore have information that the rest of us don't OR are you simply having a nice little rant this morning?
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vabopi last edited by
Since v 12.16 that I keep Opera as a secondary browser, and time to time I give a try to the current version. Next day I move it to the trash bin. Several years of intense Opera usage until v 12, led me to have feelings about it... well, had. The 1st disappointment came before that when I bought a then brand new WP7 phone and discovered that Opera had no plans to support a WP version. Before that I had Symbian with the appropriate Opera version that synced perfectly with my desktop Opera browser.
Nowadays, consistent with the "smart" advice above - love it or leave it - I no longer use Opera.
However, as I am curious, I would like to see credible stats with data of Opera users numbers and satisfaction over time.
