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Opera 15 is a DISASTER

  • The disadvantages are apparent as many essential features have been lost, at least initially. We all hope that many of these features (i.e. bookmarks) will be returned in a future update of v.15 and it appears that this will be the case. In the meantime,

    Almost every feature have been lost.
    Bookmarks is a very basic(and not unique since it have been implemented in EVERY browser besides O15) function, so it's not decisive factor here.
    I am sure that the new Opera WILL NOT be restored as suite with a highly customizable UI and controls (which are on unmatched level), configurable browser's behavior, real skins support, etc.. Many Opera users won't tolerate this regardless of bookmarks. Because Opera leaving no alternative. New Opera is just an ordinary Chromium-browser + Opera brand + set of basic features.

    remain with Opera 12 which is still receiving security updates.

    ...and it's critical bugs (not security related) won't be be fixed.
    Also, WWW would reject the support of an obsolete Opera.

  • I hate to admit that Opera committed suicide. My default browser for so many years is no more. I have just tried v.16 hoping for a miracle that did not happen, It crashed when I tried to load the v.12 Bookmarks as suggested.
    Gave up... keeping v.12 as a memento only, sadly!

  • :idea:
    Online-Bookmarks
    http://www.frech.ch/online-bookmarks/

    No longer in development but, I have happily used it for a number of years (14,000+ bookmarks in 2200+ folders). I grew weary of too many bookmarks files on too many machines, not to mention Opera's cpu thrashing with large bookmarks files and other such bookmarks BS pawned off on us as new features. :irked: I use a browser's bookmark manager very infrequently, usually only a toolbar for a few of the most oft used links (I despise all speeddials). I just successfully imported two small bookmarks sets (Opera 12.15 (Linux) .adr and Firefox .html) as tests before I do an OS re-installation. A little quirky (must create and/or select target folder before choosing file to import) but, it worked flawlessly!

    All you need to make it work is a LAMP server (easy peasy with XAMPP for Windoze or Mac or Linux). localhost will do if a separate machine isn't an option. With a web server (Apache), PHP (Version 4.3.0 or later) and a MySQL server (at least Version 4.1) your bookmarks can be available in any web browser on any machine on your network ( :yes: , you can also make them available from outside your LAN, too.). Bookmarks can be public, private (user/password) or mixed.

    http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html

  • Originally posted by vabopi:

    I hate to admit that Opera committed suicide. My default browser for so many years is no more. I have just tried v.16 hoping for a miracle that did not happen, It crashed when I tried to load the v.12 Bookmarks as suggested.
    Gave up... keeping v.12 as a memento only, sadly!

    Indeed. Version 16 is slightly better (it has my bookmarks & passwords), but where's the rest of it? It looks like they're trying to emulate Stainless browser (!!!), which itself is a novelty proof of concept browser that has tons of things missing.

    I'm not sure what it is they're trying to achieve. When we see a newer version, we expect it to be an improvement of what's gone before. They've gone too far with making things idiot proof that it's insulting. I'll stick to Opera 12.

  • They're in the process of rewriting the entire browser from the ground up and that's why some of the features are not present. As each new version is presented, features are added. If version 12 suits your needs now, then stick with version 12 and keep an eye on the new browser. Just be aware that version 12 is the last Presto browser in that line.

  • Originally posted by leushino:

    They're in the process of rewriting the entire browser from the ground up and that's why some of the features are not present. As each new version is presented, features are added.....

    So they should name it as being Opera Next or a beta version until it is fully re-written. Naming it v.14 or v.15 is misleading, that thing should never be publicly showed as a final release.

  • But they've chosen to do otherwise so either go along with the new browser or stick with the older version.

  • my experience on Andro-Tablet:

    The BEST Opera mobile is V.12. Labs!!!

    It works stable, minor crashes, Sesson are restored 80%(since month using a old tablet with 2.3.1andro), on Andro 4.1 it is the best User Experence.
    Userfriendly, easy to use, bookmarks are in all devices synchronised: Win 7, Win mobile 6.1, Blackberry, Andro-tablet 4.1

    Suggestions:
    - Session restore Option like in Desktop-version on Win7
    - bookmark file (Export features)
    - default player settings

    Merci Opera!

    Back to the roots

  • Sorry but have installed Opera 12 (now called opera classic), Opera Mini, Opera 16 & Opera Next.

    Opera mini is just plain crap... constant page refresh, poor caching and missing basic css support. Opera classic is crowded and overall a mess. The Blink builds are a huge improvement although still issues in reporting cache volumes to Android system. Currently moving most between FF and new Opera builds although Dolphin still gets fair amount of use...

  • Hmmm. Aren't the last two posts a little off-topic? I thought this forum was "Opera for Windows/Mac/Linux". "Opera for mobiles/devices" is here.

  • Oh, dear. Guilty as charged, scratchspace. I guess I was too upset with what Opera ASA has done with v15 in both the Windows and Android versions.

    Ooops. Maybe I shouldn't have said that. It'll probably set leushino off again. :devil:

    (And yes, I did find a way to get back to Android v12.10. It wasn't hard once I started looking.)

  • Originally posted by Rumpel23:

    Oh, dear. Guilty as charged, scratchspace. I guess I was too upset with what Opera ASA has done with v15 in both the Windows and Android versions.

    Ooops. Maybe I shouldn't have said that. It'll probably set leushino off again. :devil:

    (And yes, I did find a way to get back to Android v12.10. It wasn't hard once I started looking.)

    Indeed. Shift the focus onto me rather than admit to your being a hypocrite. I've big shoulders. BTW... your :devil: smiley is very appropriate under the circumstances. :lol:

  • Wellllll... it was a confession of sorts (sort of a "Yeah I was guilty but look at so-and-so"). :whistle: However, you're quite right. I AM guilty as charged. I'm going to take seriously the injunction regarding - "judge not, lest I be judged" I guess. Okay. Time to push away from the computer and watch some Netflix. There's always tomorrow to be a better person, eh?! 👼

  • I have created this account just to express my extreme anger for you,opera developers!
    No more bookmark menu at all...realy???? -if i wanna access my imense bookmark list i have to create that stupid incredibly long tile thing????
    Wasnt it bad befoe,when i had to open the settings to look for my bookmarks,cose the damn thing didnt alowed me to put a bookmark button on the bar,now i have to scroll a STUPID infinite tile -witch i canot convert to a list,nore zoom out a bit,to find a page...
    PUT A DAMN BOOKMARK BUTTON WITH A LIST THERE!!!
    And if i try to tipe it in the search bar,no sugestions apear,as in firefox...i'm directed at some random popular pages instead!!!

    Ofcourse,i canot select a language at all to...

  • Originally posted by angrycustumer:

    Ofcourse,i canot select a language at all to.

    Your language is unacceptable here.

    Just install any previous version that you prefer.

  • Why i canot put bookmarks in stash instead? -i have to open the pages one at the time,and mark them to have a list in "stash",if i want a list!
    I will use firefox i gues...good job!
    And ofcourse i am talking about opera 17 here,not 15.

  • Took me one hour to open each page and mark it to stash...and is not even in alphabetical order or something...

  • Originally posted by angrycustumer:

    Took me one hour to open each page

    It takes only 5 minutes to install a previous version. Why are you wasting your time? You could use the Quick Access Bar if you must use Opera 17.

  • Originally posted by leushino:

    Originally posted by spartaa:

    ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/

    Good stuff, Spartaa! Not sure why so many believe they are being "forced" to update when the older versions are still available and receiving security updates.

    Because I don't know for you but everything for win7 64bit display very slow, crash if you have 3 tabs on youtube (not playing), crash on facebook, I mean it's just constantly crashing. Get older, newer release, no difference. OTOH Opera "chromium" is stable and fast like opera once was (in my XP, 32 bits day) although indeed retarded in terme of customisation to a point it's embarrassing.

    Opera team really has been delusionnal. Opera's user as, by nature, people demanding with their browser. Making a new version that change the behaviour of many thing for no improvement on the long run use, break the signature speed dial feature (refresh every 30 min... Nah, just kidding) and... I hardly can believe what I am typing... don't handle bookmarks... I mean, what were they thinking ? This is not Opera 15 (or 18). Opera 5, maybe ?

  • Originally posted by Gregopathe:

    I hardly can believe what I am typing... don't handle bookmarks... I mean, what were they thinking ? This is not Opera 15 (or 18). Opera 5, maybe ?

    It handles my bookmarks quite nicely on the QAB. I have folders set up and my bookmarks are nested within. Look, if you don't like Opera 18, use an older version (i.e. v 12.16). Security patches are still being written so you should be perfectly fine. What is your problem?

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