64-bit installer blocked by Goup Policy

Deleted User

Deleted User

Hi - As a result of the Heartbleed bug, I have been encouraged to upgrade from v12.01 to 12.71. Not a bad idea, so I thought I'd upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit while I was there.

Oh yes. W7HPx64 SP1. The 12.01 was 32-bit, and I simply cannot remember why.

So, in Admin, after uninstalling 12.01, I light up the installer (Opera_1217_int_Setup_x64) via the Run in the Start Menu, and it quickly shows me:

{"C:\Users\admin acct\Appdata\Local\Temp\7ZipSfx.000\Opera.exe" /install"

This program is blocked by group policy. For more information, contact your..."}

The same result from right-clicking the installer and choosing "Run as Administrator".

Please, WTF? Is there soemthing I need to know? Because no other installer has ever done this to me, and I have quite a little collection of 64-bit software.

help?

Gordon.

burnout426

burnout426 Volunteer

As a result of the Heartbleed bug

It just affected the installer/auto-updater. If you weren't going to upgrade (had auto-update turned off), you didn't need to upgrade (except to fix the other vulnerabilities that 12.01 had).

so I thought I'd upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit

The 64-bit version uses a plug-in wrapper (to support both 64-bit and 32-bit NPAPI plug-ins) that can be buggy. Also, it's missing defaults/public_domains.dat (which causes some sites to break) in the program files folder (that you'll have to get from the 32-bit version).

Also, 12.15, 12.16 and 12.17 have some cookie bugs and some crash bugs. 12.14 (32-bit) works best.

As for the issue, not sure why you're seeing the group policy error. Does the 32-bit version of 12.17 do it too?

Deleted User

Deleted User

Dunno. Haven't tried it. S'pose I'd better. I wonder if the uninstall created a restore point?

Gordon.

burnout426

burnout426 Volunteer

I wonder if the uninstall created a restore point?

I don't think it does, but never checked.

You could try extracting the files from the installer and passing /install to opera.exe to see what it does.

Deleted User

Deleted User

Ummm. 12.17 32-bit has the same problem, but I think it may be my end, as the 12.01 32-bit also does it.

And no, system restore didn't take any notice of the uninstall. Sigh. I suppose I'll just have to do those things myself.

Yah. I can run the installer through PeaZip.

Odd bit is, this is Home Premium, it doesn't have SecPol. I have never played around with Group Policy, it's 'way too complicated.

Gordon.

Deleted User

Deleted User

OK, found the answer. I put a CryptoLocker lockout on C:, specifically "...\AppData\Local\Temp" files. And guess where Opera works from?

I can unzip the installer, and run it successfully, but... I'll give it a go and see if I can get reg entries & etc. This Is NOT Fun.

Gordon.

Deleted User

Deleted User

Well bless my soul!!!!! We don't need an installer!!!! Extract from the exe, drop it into any suitable place, and run it. It's portable!

BTW, FWIW, I noticed a lot of peeps bagging v12 in favour of v20. C****e-Blink is claimed to be soooooo good? I'm typing this on Iron 27, because at the moment it is the browser that displeases me least.

Let me repeat: The browser that displeases me least.

This is not a good position for any browser to be in. I'm a consumer, a customer, a client. Traditionally, I am always right. But now I cannot find a browser (free-, pay-, whatever-ware) that pleases me. Chrome/Iron/Opera/etc have gone minimalist. I have no control. I don't like WebKit, its performance is dismal. Mozilla have adopted closed-source attitudes that would make Microsoft jealous. And the Gecko engine ain't that good any more anyway. IE? IE 4 and 5 were responses to consumer demand, and they were very good indeed. Presto was certainly more than adequate. The K-Meleon Gecko fork was the fastest and most configurable browser I have ever used. Too configurable, maybe. But blindingly fast.

Devs. Lissen up. Oh yeah. I don't like ribbons, I do like menu bars, and I only use 4 of the tools in the bar. My toolbars are really minimalised!

Gordon.

colderwinters

colderwinters

I'm typing this on Iron 27, because at the moment it is the browser that displeases me least.

Let me repeat: The browser that displeases me least.

Iron is up to Version 34 now, it's one of the quickest browsers to upgrade to the latest Chrome version out of all the Chrome variants.

Deleted User

Deleted User

Yes. But 27 is the last Chromium engine. And so far it renders all websites acceptably.

Gordon.

burnout426

burnout426 Volunteer

Glad you found the problem.

Well bless my soul!!!!! We don't need an installer!!!! Extract from the exe, drop it into any suitable place, and run it. It's portable!

The installer might make some necessary registry entries for protocol/file association though. Didn't check though.

colderwinters

colderwinters

I posted that weeks ago that you could unzip the install file and use Opera without installing it although it's not truely portable, it still puts files in the registry and your App Data folder. theres possibly a way to make it portable but I havent messed with it.

linuxmint7

linuxmint7

theres possibly a way to make it portable but I havent messed with it.

It's in the installer, where it has always been since version 11 or 12.

Deleted User

Deleted User

@colderwinters - Sorry I missed your post, but glad to know the unzipped version still accesses AppData and the Registry.

Now we need to get the Devs to install from a non-Local Temp folder. There's no way I'm taking the install lock off that.

But I guess Opera ain't the only one to install from Local\Temp.

Gordon.

colderwinters

colderwinters

I thought during the install process, like as if you were installing to harddrive there was an option to install as portable to a flash drive or something, i think i remember i had that option, not sure though, That would probably be totally portable I'd think

shandra

shandra

Strange - I just upgraded my 12.16 (via the downloaded 64bit installer (ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/1217/int/Opera_1217_int_Setup_x64.exe)) on W7Pro x64 without problems and have recently installed 12.16 on my fathers system (W7HPx64) and that went smooth too. Some differences in the setup of the PCs compared to yours may be that I had the installer on a non system path and the install-type was "USB Install" (truly portable install)) and the target folder on both machine resides not within the restricted os-program files path (in fact on another partition, but that shouldn't matter). But as you are unable to launch the installer (which I haven't encountered so far on any machine I installed Opera on (from W2k/XPHome/Pro over XPx64 to Win7HP/Pro and Server 2008R2 x64(1)) - Have you tried the installer from another location (not from any system path), or from safe-mode yet (As it seem that the USB Option from the installer is what you may like to have)?? Loged in via the build-in Admin Account instead as a member of the Admin Group (should be disabled by default if there is another member of the Admin Group, just google to find the instructions on how to enable the build in Admin for login'into safe mode - should be deactivated afterwards if you don't want to have that account beeing shown on the normal login screen (or switch to the classic logon screen and keep it activated))

(1): different to the other machines, I had put (still portable option choosen) Opera on the Server2k8R2 one inside the program-files folder - but there I created the target folder "Opera" first and made sure that my Account had the ownership and all access rights to that folder and child elements of it.

linuxmint7

linuxmint7

I thought during the install process, like as if you were installing to harddrive there was an option to install as portable to a flash drive or something, i think i remember i had that option, not sure though, That would probably be totally portable I'd think

You're just not seeing it, are you ?, either that, or my posts are invisible.

It's in the installer, as I said before, up there ^^^.

More specifically:

Double click the installer to run it. When the main installer window/dialogue/interface appears, look to the bottom left of said window/dialogue/interface and there should be an 'Options' button. Click said 'Options' button and a different window/dialogue/interface appears.

In this window/dialogue/interface you have four main options:

Language

Install for

Install path

Shortcuts

Choose your language, then change the 'Install for' option to 'Stand alone - USB', then change the 'Install path' option to anywhere you like (USB memory stick, SD card, external hard drive, a folder somewhere on your hard drive), as long as you have write permissions to it, Select the 'Shortcuts' your require (if any), then click 'Accept and install'. Leave it to do it's stuff, then job done.

You now have a fully portable (self contained) version of Opera that can be moved around as you see fit, and can be run on most (Windows) machines too (depending on how they have been setup).

NB: There is just one caveat (AFAIK) with the new (Windows) version of Opera, your passwords (for website logins) are linked to the particular version of Windows you performed the USB setup on, and are not transferred if you run it on or move it to another machine running Windows AFAIK. I've not mucked around with the password side of things in the new version of Opera, so don't really know the fully effects and limitations, as it does not really affect me, as I pretty much know most of my login details, and spend most of my time running Linux anyway.

Deleted User

Deleted User

@shandra - As I wrote up above, I put a CryptoLocker lockout on C:\Users*\AppData, and I forgot about it. Specifically, CryptoPrevent from Foolish IT.

Unfortunately, some app devs use ..\AppData\Local\Temp to run installers, due to its convenient properties, which is why CryptoLocker prefers to run from there. So now I have to figure out how to tell CryptoPrevent to ignore any of these installers when I run them, and I'll only find which they are when they crash and burn.

It would be better if Opera Devs changed the installer to run from the host folder, in my case or E:\Temp. It's not real difficult.

I don't need a portable version of any app, the comment about Opera being portable if unzipped was mostly surprise--I had not imagined this could be done.

Gordon.

burnout426

burnout426 Volunteer

You might try something like:

Launch a command prompt (as admin if you need to).
set temp "path_you_want"
set tmp "same path"
type the command to execute the installer.

If that doesn't work, type set and press enter. Then, look at the variables and try to determine what one the Opera installer is using.