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What differences are there between versions 11.64 and 12.16?

  • While 12.16 seems to be the most preferred, 11.64 is also highly recommended and both are much better than anything post-12.16.

  • 11.64 was the pinnacle of Opera IMHO. It was the most perfected version with the best feature set, including Unite, which was a great idea that would have been big if it had been Google's idea.

    12.x began to remove features, and 15+, well, we all know how those are.

    I switched to 12.x anyway because it would deal with the usual suspects (Facebook, Gmail) better. Now that 12.x is rather slow on those as well, I'm thinking about switching back to 11.64 for my non-Facebook/non-Gmail browsing.

  • Using 12.02, because Opera broke Kernelex, which I use, following that version, I observed one big difference between 11 and 12.

    I use a black background color scheme, which Opera broke in version 10. In Opera 12, I saw a colored text on a black background for feed messages. In version 11, I got unreadable black text on a black background. In 12, I saw no other fixes for the other black background color scheme problems in Opera.

  • Using 12.02, because Opera broke Kernelex, which I use, following that version, I observed one big difference between 11 and 12.

    I use a black background color scheme, which Opera broke in version 10. In Opera 12, I saw a colored text on a black background for feed messages. In version 11, I got unreadable black text on a black background. In 12, I saw no other fixes for the other black background color scheme problems in Opera.

  • You can find some skins fixed for Opera 12.xx at the link if you want to use the latest Presto version.

  • Removed favicons support (in the address bar dropdown list, inspired by hateful Google's Chrome style) was the most annoying functionality loss of the 11.64. At least, 12.x has the option to enable favicons.

  • I forgot to mention another related big difference for me in 12.02 from 11.64. In the compose new mail message screen in 11.64, I got unreadable black text on a black background. In 12.02, the color of the text came from my Windows color scheme, and I could read the text on my black background.

    I tried Mocha_Dark and liked how it blended well blacks, whites, and shades of gray. I ran into the same problem with that skin as with others of Opera hardcoding numerous text colors black, making them unskinable, e.g. the text on the manage bookmarks page, and unreadable on a black background.

    For weeks, I have been trying to move from 9.67, which had no problems with black backgrounds, to a later version of Opera. I have slowly got a system that is usable but frankly sucks. Some frequently used parts, such as bookmarks, require a non black background, I have concluded, and many less frequently used parts, e.g. the cookie manager dialog box, require a change of skin or Windows color scheme whenever needed.

    I have been looking for an alternative bookmark system. So far I haven't had any success.

  • Thanks, especially to Pesala.

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