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Which was the best version of Opera?

  • I've been using Firefox but it has been crashing my computer lately so I'm in the market for a new browser again. Is anyone still using Opera 12.16, and where would I go to download it? Which of the other browsers mentioned above have good bookmark sidebars, like Firefox has, and Opera used to have?

  • The latest Presto version is now 12.17, and it's available here -
    http://www.opera.com/download/guide/?ver=12.17
    🙂

  • Hey, thanks! 12.17? Did they update it?

  • It's good to have good old real Opera back again!

  • Well... I'm glad you're happy with 12.17. It "is" updated in terms of having had security patches made. It will not be "updated" in terms of further development. How long Opera will continue to provide security patches remains uncertain and be aware that many sites will no longer play nicely with Opera 12. It is what it is: a dated browser that can still function, albeit not like it once could. And of course, things will only get worse as time passes.

  • Leushino, don't be forgetting that Opera and "Opera" are different browsers. Yes, just that.
    The same name is abomination.

  • Chropera is entirely different browser. Not just technically, but ideologically. I won't call it the worst or the best from the Chromoium-based category, but it's just nothing to do with the "real" Opera.

  • The real Opera is the one that is being developed, the other is just past that some does not want to forget.

  • So long as THE FIRST browser exists, the "new Opera" is an impostor, Sidney.

  • Yes, the "new" Opera is an imposter, a usurper, lock it up! Get rid of it!

  • Well... that's not going to happen, so wake up and smell the coffee. You and a few hundred others can whine all you like but that will not change a thing. Opera Presto is dead in terms of no longer being developed nor will it be. If you want to use it be my guest. Understand that as I said earlier, you are going to run into sites that will not render properly and this will happen on an increasing NOT decreasing basis. If you want to engage in juvenile name-calling (i.e. Chopera) then understand that you will be perceived as spoiled children calling names on a school playground and as such you will be dismissed. If you have special features you miss, post them "respectfully" in the Suggestion Box where developers will see them and consider them. Posting nasty comments like naughty children will not win you any friends among the developer community.

  • @leushino
    For Christs sake, just bring side panel (preferably accessible via extensions API), and users will make new Opera into old one. Bookmarks, Vertical arrangement of tabs, Notes and so on. Slimjet browser has already a sidepanel with bookmarks, so Opera devs YOU should WAKE UP or your browser will die in few years! Your browser can do nothing more than any other Chromium (blink based) browser

  • whine

    💤

    If you want to engage in juvenile name-calling...

    Well, there is Opera - and there is Opera. Who's juvenile here?

  • I just came across this article:

    "Time to move on: Final patch for Opera 12 due by mid-2014

    Summary: Opera appears to have made up its mind on the question of updates for Opera 12: the last will come by mid-2014, along with an automatic update that will push millions over to the new browser.

    http://www.zdnet.com/time-to-move-on-final-patch-for-opera-12-due-by-mid-2014-7000023427/

  • The old Opera is the imposter because the new Opera is the main.

  • VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERY logical statement.

  • whine

    If you want to engage in juvenile name-calling...

    Well, there is Opera - and there is Opera. Who's juvenile here?

    Do you EVER post anything in a mature, reasonable fashion or is that beyond your comprehension. Grow up.

  • I just came across this article:
    "Time to move on: Final patch for Opera 12 due by mid-2014
    Summary: Opera appears to have made up its mind on the question of updates for Opera 12: the last will come by mid-2014, along with an automatic update that will push millions over to the new browser.
    http://www.zdnet.com/time-to-move-on-final-patch-for-opera-12-due-by-mid-2014-7000023427/

    I've been patiently trying to get that message across now for a long time. Evidently a few still insist that Opera will somehow reverse all engines and head back into oblivion with an updated Presto. It's not going to happen. Presto is effectively dead in the water and what remains while still functional will soon be dead so isn't it time to learn to adapt and move with the times?

  • so isn't it time to learn to adapt and move with the times?

    Maybe not if the current times tend to dumb down things

    In your case it is clear that adaptation is going well

  • Evidently a few still insist that Opera will somehow reverse all engines and head back into oblivion with an updated
    Presto. It's not going to happen.

    Maybe some, who knows, just dreams and hopes...
    What we want is those few features that are gone in new Opera. And we are not few, we are in thousands.

    isn't it time to learn to adapt and move with the times?

    No.
    People will use Opera 12 till nothing will display in it. Look, there are still people using Firefox 3, why would you even think that everyone will move to something that is really buggy, unpolished and overall inferior in features?

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