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  • Forget my last post formating has been lost.
    I try again in chunks.

  • Perfect davehawley. I had a good look at the files in my opera file system.
    I found that I have the following file system structure:

    In my mail folder modified
    signature7.txt 10.04.2016
    signature6.txt 10.04.2016
    signature5.txt 10.04.2016
    signature2.txt 28.10.2010
    recovery.log 09.05.2012
    opr7848.tmp 10.01.2015
    opr96D8.tmp 20.01.2016
    oneopr2AF9.tmp 15.06.2014
    omailbase.dat 11.04.2016
    index.ini 11.04.2016
    incoming6.txt 11.04.2016
    imp.dat 10.04.2016

  • again not good but we are getting there: Perfect davehawley. I had a good look at the files in my opera file system. I found that I have the following file system structure: In my mail folder signature7.txt modified 10.04.2016; signature6.txt modified 10.04.2016; signature5.txt modified 10.04.2016 ; signature2.txt modified 28.10.2010; recovery.log modified 09.05.2012 ; opr7848.tmp modified 10.01.2015 ; opr7848.tmp modified 10.01.2015 ; opr96D8.tmp modified 0.01.2016 ; oneopr2AF9.tmp modified 15.06.2014 ; omailbase.dat modified 11.04.2016 ; index.ini modified 11.04.2016 ; incoming6.txt modified 11.04.2016 imp.dat modified 10.04.2016;

  • Further: In my Store Folder are folder account2 with sub-folders 2000-2013 obviously year folders, with month sub-folders and folder account3 with sub-folder 2013 and month sub-folders with sub-folders for day's folder account4 with sub-folder 2013-2016; folder account5 with sub-folder 2016 ; folder account6 with sub-folder 2013-2016 ; folder draft ; ultimately in the day folders little xx.mbs files exist sometimes, sometime a view and some times quiet a lot, the size also varies from a view KB to say 200 KB (but all together this most be a lot of data. However the content of the xx.mbs files does not really look like email text etc. With the info I have from burnout426 and davehawley I'm not sure I know what to do now.

    So many possible xx.mbs files and a strange file system.It looks as if my mail organized itselfe by the day it was in use.
    The accounts I'm not sure at least some may be from the upgrade from integrated opera mail to opera mail 1.0. But it may also be that I added more with upgrade to Win10? I am definitely not able to determine the order in which he accounts have been created for the recovery/recreation process (burnout426). I'm not sure what to do with the large amount of xx.mbs files and the file system used store these files. I also tried Recuva and that could restore even more xx.mbs files
    and other file types

  • The contents of the .mbs files should be identifiable as being e-mail messages.
    They are in plain text.
    The fact that you have a lot of them and they are in folders which go back to 200 would seem to indicate that your mail database is probably still intact, you just can't access it.
    Did you try the import that burnout426 suggested?
    Did Recuva find any accounts.ini or index.ini files from before the problem occurred?
    🙂

  • Where does Mail say your mail directory is? If Mail is just pointing to the wrong location, then we should be able to edit operaprefs.ini to change it to the right location. Only edit files while the program is closed though.

  • If you renamed operaprefs.ini as I suggested, it'll remove your custom mail folder location. While Opera is closed, under the [Mail] section (add it if it isn't there), add the line:

    Mail Root Directory=path to "mail" folder
    

    Then it'll use your custom mail folder location. Before you start Opera, you can then move the good mail folder to that spot so that Opera will use it (moving the old one out of the way first.).

    I only suggested renaming operaprefs.ini for the purpose of making Opera use the default location of the mail folder. Didn't know you had a custom location.

  • As far as the forum goes, it supports Markdown. You can see the link at the bottom of the page if you like ... or for formatted text add 4 spaces at the start of each line. Some versions also support tables using the vertical bar character, but I've never tested it here.

  • https://www.reddit.com/r/operabrowser/wiki/m2tips/mail_folder_structure should help you understand what each file/folder is for in the mail folder. You don't have to worry about incomingN.txt or anything like that.

    Also, after fixing the mail folder location in operaprefs.ini, you can try the whole import process again if you want. Just rename the "mail" folder again (but to "mailold2" for example) and import from the original "mailold" folder per my directions.

  • all of you thanks a lot but I'm a bit slow in this.
    burnout426; already figuring out old and new mail accounts and preferences etc. seems difficult.
    In About Opera Mail I can see:
    Preferences are at root:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\Opera Mail\OperaMail1_0\operaprefs.ini.
    If I remember correct this is not a custom location I created when using original opera mail 1.0 but is the standard for a new installation (or start of a session in my case. But I'm not sure about this.
    Saved session
    C:\Users\Thomas\AppData\Roaming\Opera Mail\OperaMail1_0\sessions\autopera.win
    Given the location same thing as in case above.
    Mail directory is given as
    J:\OperaMail1_0\All User Mail\mail. This seems to be the latest used custom location. But it has no operaprefs.ini but has a operaprefs_default.ini and it has no autopera.win what so ever. I have set file explorer to show all files.
    And then we also have the J:\OperaMail\AllUsers\Mail folder I think again a custom folder used for opera mail before opera mail 1.0 - but I'm not sure.
    My confusion is where to start etc.
    One other question: when you say "edit" you mean just give it a different name? I'm not sure here.
    Again thanks a lot don't think I'm not working on it - I do but most days I am 50% of the time in hospital mostly for radiation. I try to do my best but speed is not up to a 100% and the amount of data is also not helping. I get a better idea with all info I getr from you but still I miss some pieces. I will work on it as much as possibe and may some has some more directions concerning the locations recoveries imports etc.
    Thanks Thomas

  • (There's a simple way at the bottom if you don't want to try the following things)

    Mail directory is given as
    J:\OperaMail10\All User Mail\mail. This seems to be the latest used custom location. But it has no operaprefs.ini but has a operaprefsdefault.ini

    operaprefs_default.ini is a file that sits next to operamail.exe. operaprefs_default.ini isn't something you normally mess with. operaprefs.ini is.

    I need to know a few things for to make sure how you have things set up:

    • Open operaprefs_default.ini with notepad.

    Is there a "[System]" section?

    If so, is there a "Multi User=" line?

    If so, is it set to 0 or 1?

    • Where is operamail.exe and operaprefs_default.ini?

    Are they in "J:\OperaMail10" or "J:\OperaMail10\All User Mail"?

    • In the folder where operamail.exe and operaprefs_default.ini are at, is the a folder named "profile"?

    I'm trying to determine whether you have what's called a standalone installation of Opera Mail at "J:\OperaMail10" or if you did a normal installation to "J:\OperaMail10" where operamail uses the local and roaming appdata folders on the root drive (as opposed to the "profile" folder next to operamail.exe) where you then changed the mail folder location to "J:\OperaMail10\All Users Mail\mail" in "root:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\Opera Mail\OperaMail10\operaprefs.ini.

    Was also wondering if your intention was to have all of Opera Mail on the J drive or just the mail folder or just the mail folder and other profile files.

    When I mention "rename" for a file or folder, I mean to right-click on the folder, choose "rename" and type the new name. It can also be done by pressing F2 on a folder or file and typing the new name.

    When I mention "edit" for editing a file, I mean to open the file in a text editor like notepad for example. Right-click -> open with -> notepad for example.

    What I would do is this:

    • Goto http://www.opera.com/computer/mail and download the Opera Mail installer.

    • Launch it.

    • Click "options".

    • Set "install path" to "root:\Program Files (x86)\Opera Mail".

    • Set "install for" to "All users".

    • Check "Make Opera default" if given the option.

    • Install.

    • Open Opera Mail.

    • Close Opera Mail.

    • Goto "root:\Users\your_user_name\AppData\Roaming\Opera Mail\Opera Mail" and open operaprefs.ini with a text editor.

    • Under [Mail] (add the section if it's not there) add the line:

      Mail Root Directory=J:\Opera Mail\mail

    and save.

    • Then, launch Opera Mail (right-click on the Opera Mail shortcut, goto properties and make sure the path to Opera Mail is "root:\Program Files (x86)\Opera Mail\operamail.exe" first) and create your accounts and import like mentioned here. You'll just need to import from the mail folder you had before all of this.

    That will install Opera Mail properly where the program files and profile are on the root driver, but the mail files are in "J:\Opera Mail\mail". (Contacts.adr and wand.dat will still be on root at "root:\Users\your_user_name\AppData\Roaming\Opera Mail\Opera Mail".

    Or, skip all that and do this simple way:

    If you want all of Opera Mail on the J drive, just launch the installer, click "options", set "install path" to "J:\Opera Mail", set "install for" to "Standalone Installation" and install. Once Opera Mail starts up, set up your accounts and import as mentioned in here.

    Then, create a shortcut to "J:\Opera Mail\operamail.exe" and put it on your desktop. Then, all of Opera Mail will be on your J drive and everything will be restored.

  • Hello burnout426 you are helping me so much:

    Open operaprefs_default.ini with notepad looks like this:
    Opera Preferences version 2.1
    ; Do not edit this file while Opera is running
    ; This file is stored in UTF-8 encoding

    [System]
    Opera Product=0

    [User Prefs]
    Language Files Directory={Resources}locale\en
    Language File={Resources}locale\en\en.lng

    [Auto Update]
    Country Code=NL

    and is located at J:\OperaMail1_0.

    In the folder where operamail.exe and operaprefs_default.ini are at, is the a folder named "profile"? No there is no folder profile whatsoever in J:\OperaMail1_0.

    If I could get opera mail up and running again for POP and IMAP in a multiuser mode it would be great. If I could access (large parts)of the old maildata base in a multiuser setting it would be fantastic. If someone could help me wit setting that up from what is left on my computer would make me very happy.

  • Hello all:
    I found a accounts.ini file on J:\OperaMail1_0 it is from 09.04.2016 which shoul dbe from before the accident. It looks like this:
    Opera Preferences version 2.1
    ; Do not edit this file while Opera is running
    ; This file is stored in UTF-8 encoding

    [Accounts]
    Version=9
    Added 11.60 Upgrade Mail=1
    Headers=Subject,Date,From,Organization,To,Cc,Bcc,Reply-To,Newsgroups,Followup-To,Resent-Date,Resent-From,Resent-To,Resent-Cc,Resent-Bcc,Resent-Reply-To,User-Agent,X-Mailer,Also-Control,Approved,Archive,Article-Names,Article-Updates,Comments,Complaints-To,Content-Disposition,Content-Transfer-Encoding,Content-Type,Control,Distribution,Encrypted,Expires,In-Reply-To,Injector-Info,Keywords,Lines,List-Id,List-Post,Mailing-List,Mail-Copies-To,Message-ID,MIME-Version,Posted-And-Mailed,Received,References,Resent-Message-ID,Resent-Sender,Return-path,See-Also,Sender,Status,Summary,Supersedes,X-Face,X-Priority,Xref,X-Mailing-List
    Next Available Id=5
    Account1=4
    Count=1
    Default Mail Account=4

    [Account4]
    Incoming Protocol=POP
    Outgoing Protocol=SMTP
    Charset=iso-8859-15
    Personalization
    Xface
    Temporary=0
    Category=
    Incoming Port=110
    Outgoing Port=25
    Secure Connection In=0
    Secure Connection Out=0
    Secure Authentication=0
    Incoming Authentication Method=31
    Outgoing Authentication Method=31
    Incoming Timeout=60
    Outgoing Timeout=90
    Remove From Server Delay Enabled=1
    Remove From Server Delay=604800
    Remove From Server Only If Marked As Read=0
    Remove From Server Only If Complete Message=1
    Initial Poll Delay=5
    Poll Interval=300
    Max Download Size=0
    Purge Age=-1
    Purge Size=-1
    Download Bodies=1
    Download Attachments=1
    Leave On Server=1
    Server Has Spam Filter=0
    IMAP BODYSTRUCTURE support=1
    IMAP IDLE support=1
    Permanent Delete=0
    Queue Outgoing=0
    Send Queued After Check=0
    Mark Read If Seen=0
    Sound Enabled=1
    Manual Check Enabled=1
    Add Contact When Sending=1
    Show Warning For Empty Subject=1
    Account Name=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
    Incoming Servername=pop.ziggo.nl
    Incoming Username=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
    Outgoing Servername=smtp.ziggo.nl
    Outgoing Username=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
    Force Charset=0
    Allow 8Bit Headers=0
    Allow 8Bit Transfer=0
    Allow Incoming QuotedString QP=1
    Prefer HTML Composing=1
    Real Name=Mikosch - den Hollander
    Email=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
    Replyto=
    Organization=Home Office
    Signature File=J:\OperaMail\AllUsers\Mail\signature3.txt
    Sound File=C:\Windows\Media\Characters\Windows Print complete.wav
    Reply=On %:Date:, %f wrote:
    Followup
    Forward=\n\n------- Forwarded message -------\nFrom: %:From:\nTo: %:To:\nCc: %:Cc:\nSubject: %:Subject:\nDate: %:Date:\n
    Linelength=76
    Remove Signature On Reply=1
    Max QuoteDepth On Reply=-1
    Max QuoteDepth On QuickReply=2
    Auto CC=
    Auto BCC=
    Signature is HTML=0
    Low bandwidth mode=0
    Fetch Max Lines=100
    Fetch Only Text=0
    Default Direction=0
    Default Store=2

    I found another accounts.ini in J:\OperaMail\AllUsers\Mail containing this

    Opera Preferences version 2.1
    ; Do not edit this file while Opera is running
    ; This file is stored in UTF-8 encoding

    [Accounts]
    Account1=2
    Version=9
    Added 11.60 Upgrade Mail=1
    Headers=Subject,Date,From,Organization,To,Cc,Bcc,Reply-To,Newsgroups,Followup-To,Resent-Date,Resent-From,Resent-To,Resent-Cc,Resent-Bcc,Resent-Reply-To,Also-Control,Approved,Archive,Article-Names,Article-Updates,Comments,Complaints-To,Content-Disposition,Content-Transfer-Encoding,Content-Type,Control,Distribution,Encrypted,Expires,In-Reply-To,Injector-Info,Keywords,Lines,List-Id,List-Post,Mailing-List,Mail-Copies-To,Message-ID,MIME-Version,Posted-And-Mailed,Received,References,Resent-Message-ID,Resent-Sender,Return-path,See-Also,Sender,Status,Summary,Supersedes,User-Agent,X-Face,X-Mailer,Xref,X-Mailing-List,X-Priority
    Next Available Id=4
    Count=2
    Account2=3
    Default Mail Account=3

    [Account3]
    Incoming Protocol=POP
    Outgoing Protocol=SMTP
    Charset=iso-8859-15
    Personalization
    Xface
    Temporary=0
    Category=
    Incoming Port=110
    Outgoing Port=25
    Secure Connection In=0
    Secure Connection Out=0
    Secure Authentication=0
    Incoming Authentication Method=31
    Outgoing Authentication Method=31
    Incoming Timeout=60
    Outgoing Timeout=90
    Remove From Server Delay Enabled=1
    Remove From Server Delay=604800
    Remove From Server Only If Marked As Read=0
    Remove From Server Only If Complete Message=1
    Initial Poll Delay=5
    Poll Interval=300
    Max Download Size=0
    Purge Age=-1
    Purge Size=-1
    Download Bodies=1
    Download Attachments=1
    Leave On Server=1
    Server Has Spam Filter=0
    IMAP BODYSTRUCTURE support=1
    IMAP IDLE support=1
    Permanent Delete=0
    Queue Outgoing=0
    Send Queued After Check=0
    Mark Read If Seen=0
    Sound Enabled=0
    Manual Check Enabled=1
    Add Contact When Sending=1
    Show Warning For Empty Subject=1
    Account Name=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
    Incoming Servername=pop.ziggo.nl
    Incoming Username=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
    Outgoing Servername=smtp.ziggo.nl
    Outgoing Username=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
    Force Charset=0
    Allow 8Bit Headers=0
    Allow 8Bit Transfer=0
    Allow Incoming QuotedString QP=1
    Prefer HTML Composing=1
    Real Name=Mikosch - den Hollander
    Email=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
    Replyto=
    Organization=Home Office
    Signature File=J:\OperaMail\AllUsers\Mail\signature3.txt
    Sound File=
    Reply=On %:Date:, %f wrote:
    Followup
    Forward=\n\n------- Forwarded message -------\nFrom: %:From:\nTo: %:To:\nCc: %:Cc:\nSubject: %:Subject:\nDate: %:Date:\n
    Linelength=76
    Remove Signature On Reply=1
    Max QuoteDepth On Reply=-1
    Max QuoteDepth On QuickReply=2
    Auto CC=
    Auto BCC=
    Signature is HTML=0
    Low bandwidth mode=0
    Fetch Max Lines=100
    Fetch Only Text=0
    Default Direction=0
    Default Store=2

  • In J:\OperaMail1_0\All User Mail\mail is another accounts.ini with:
    Opera Preferences version 2.1
    ; Do not edit this file while Opera is running
    ; This file is stored in UTF-8 encoding

    [Accounts]
    Version=9
    Headers=Subject,Date,From,Organization,To,Cc,Bcc,Reply-To,Newsgroups,Followup-To,Resent-Date,Resent-From,Resent-To,Resent-Cc,Resent-Bcc,Resent-Reply-To,User-Agent,X-Mailer,Also-Control,Approved,Archive,Article-Names,Article-Updates,Comments,Complaints-To,Content-Disposition,Content-Transfer-Encoding,Content-Type,Control,Distribution,Encrypted,Expires,In-Reply-To,Injector-Info,Keywords,Lines,List-Id,List-Post,Mailing-List,Mail-Copies-To,Message-ID,MIME-Version,Posted-And-Mailed,Received,References,Resent-Message-ID,Resent-Sender,Return-path,See-Also,Sender,Status,Summary,Supersedes,X-Face,X-Priority,Xref,X-Mailing-List
    Added 11.60 Upgrade Mail=1
    Account1=5
    Default Mail Account=5
    Account2=6
    Next Available Id=8
    Count=3
    Account3=7

    [Account5]
    Incoming Protocol=POP
    Outgoing Protocol=SMTP
    Charset=iso-8859-15
    Personalization
    Xface
    Temporary=0
    Category=
    Incoming Port=995
    Outgoing Port=587
    Secure Connection In=1
    Secure Connection Out=1
    Secure Authentication=0
    Incoming Authentication Method=31
    Outgoing Authentication Method=2
    Incoming Timeout=60
    Outgoing Timeout=90
    Remove From Server Delay Enabled=0
    Remove From Server Delay=604800
    Remove From Server Only If Marked As Read=1
    Remove From Server Only If Complete Message=1
    Initial Poll Delay=5
    Poll Interval=300
    Max Download Size=0
    Purge Age=-1
    Purge Size=-1
    Download Bodies=1
    Download Attachments=1
    Leave On Server=1
    Server Has Spam Filter=0
    IMAP BODYSTRUCTURE support=1
    IMAP IDLE support=1
    Permanent Delete=1
    Queue Outgoing=0
    Send Queued After Check=0
    Mark Read If Seen=0
    Sound Enabled=1
    Manual Check Enabled=1
    Add Contact When Sending=1
    Show Warning For Empty Subject=1
    Account Name=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
    Incoming Servername=pop.ziggo.nl
    Incoming Username=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
    Outgoing Servername=smtp.ziggo.nl
    Outgoing Username=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
    Force Charset=0
    Allow 8Bit Headers=0
    Allow 8Bit Transfer=0
    Allow Incoming QuotedString QP=1
    Prefer HTML Composing=1
    Real Name=Mikosch - den Hollander
    Email=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
    Replyto=
    Organization=Home Office
    Signature File={Resources}All User Mail/mail/signature5.txt
    Sound File=C:\Windows\Media\Characters\Windows Print complete.wav
    Reply=On %:Date:, %f wrote:
    Followup
    Forward=\n\n------- Forwarded message -------\nFrom: %:From:\nTo: %:To:\nCc: %:Cc:\nSubject: %:Subject:\nDate: %:Date:\n
    Linelength=76
    Remove Signature On Reply=1
    Max QuoteDepth On Reply=-1
    Max QuoteDepth On QuickReply=2
    Auto CC=
    Auto BCC=
    Signature is HTML=0
    Low bandwidth mode=0
    Fetch Max Lines=100
    Fetch Only Text=0
    Default Direction=0
    Default Store=2

    [Account6]
    Incoming Protocol=IMAP
    Outgoing Protocol=SMTP
    Charset=iso-8859-15
    Personalization
    Xface
    Temporary=0
    Category=
    Incoming Port=993
    Outgoing Port=587
    Secure Connection In=1
    Secure Connection Out=1
    Secure Authentication=0
    Incoming Authentication Method=31
    Outgoing Authentication Method=31
    Incoming Timeout=60
    Outgoing Timeout=90
    Remove From Server Delay Enabled=0
    Remove From Server Delay=604800
    Remove From Server Only If Marked As Read=0
    Remove From Server Only If Complete Message=1
    Initial Poll Delay=5
    Poll Interval=300
    Max Download Size=0
    Purge Age=-1
    Purge Size=-1
    Download Bodies=0
    Download Attachments=1
    Leave On Server=0
    Server Has Spam Filter=1
    IMAP BODYSTRUCTURE support=1
    IMAP IDLE support=1
    Permanent Delete=1
    Queue Outgoing=0
    Send Queued After Check=0
    Mark Read If Seen=1
    Sound Enabled=1
    Manual Check Enabled=1
    Add Contact When Sending=1
    Show Warning For Empty Subject=1
    Account Name=kdhtm@ziggo.nl (2)
    Incoming Servername=imap.ziggo.nl
    Incoming Username=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
    Outgoing Servername=smtp.ziggo.nl
    Outgoing Username=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
    Force Charset=0
    Allow 8Bit Headers=0
    Allow 8Bit Transfer=0
    Allow Incoming QuotedString QP=1
    Prefer HTML Composing=4
    Real Name=Mikosch - den Hollander
    Email=kdhtm@ziggo.nl
    Replyto=
    Organization=Home Office
    Signature File={Resources}All User Mail/mail/signature6.txt
    Sound File=
    Reply=On %:Date:, %f wrote:
    Followup
    Forward=\n\n------- Forwarded message -------\nFrom: %:From:\nTo: %:To:\nCc: %:Cc:\nSubject: %:Subject:\nDate: %:Date:\n
    Linelength=76
    Remove Signature On Reply=1
    Max QuoteDepth On Reply=-1
    Max QuoteDepth On QuickReply=2
    Auto CC=
    Auto BCC=
    Signature is HTML=0
    Low bandwidth mode=0
    Fetch Max Lines=100
    Fetch Only Text=1
    Default Direction=0
    Default Store=2

    [Account7]
    Incoming Protocol=RSS
    Outgoing Protocol
    Charset=iso-8859-15
    Personalization
    Xface
    Temporary=0
    Category
    Incoming Port=0
    Outgoing Port=0
    Secure Connection In=0
    Secure Connection Out=0
    Secure Authentication=0
    Incoming Authentication Method=0
    Outgoing Authentication Method=0
    Incoming Timeout=0
    Outgoing Timeout=0
    Remove From Server Delay Enabled=0
    Remove From Server Delay=604800
    Remove From Server Only If Marked As Read=0
    Remove From Server Only If Complete Message=1
    Initial Poll Delay=5
    Poll Interval=300
    Max Download Size=0
    Purge Age=-1
    Purge Size=-1
    Download Bodies=0
    Download Attachments=0
    Leave On Server=1
    Server Has Spam Filter=0
    IMAP BODYSTRUCTURE support=1
    IMAP IDLE support=1
    Permanent Delete=1
    Queue Outgoing=0
    Send Queued After Check=0
    Mark Read If Seen=0
    Sound Enabled=0
    Manual Check Enabled=1
    Add Contact When Sending=1
    Show Warning For Empty Subject=1
    Account Name=RSS
    Incoming Servername
    Incoming Username
    Outgoing Servername
    Outgoing Username
    Force Charset=0
    Allow 8Bit Headers=0
    Allow 8Bit Transfer=0
    Allow Incoming QuotedString QP=1
    Prefer HTML Composing=4
    Real Name
    Email
    Replyto
    Organization
    Signature File={Resources}All User Mail/mail/signature7.txt
    Sound File
    Reply
    Followup
    Forward
    Linelength=76
    Remove Signature On Reply=1
    Max QuoteDepth On Reply=-1
    Max QuoteDepth On QuickReply=2
    Auto CC
    Auto BCC
    Signature is HTML=0
    Low bandwidth mode=0
    Fetch Max Lines=100
    Fetch Only Text=0
    Default Direction=0
    Default Store=2

    Maybe this helps figuring out what to do
    Thomas

  • Thanks for the clarification. I see that you do have a multiuser install and that you really just want the mail folder on the J drive.

    Download the Opera Mail installer and launch it.

    Click "options".

    Set "install for" to "All users".

    Set "install path" to "C:\Program Files (x86)\Opera Mail".

    Set "make Opera Mail the default" if given the option.

    Install.

    When Opera Mail starts up, close it.

    Goto "C:\Users\your_user_name\AppData\Roaming\Opera Mail\Opera Mail" and open operaprefs.ini with notepad.

    Add the [Mail] section if it isn't there.

    Under the [Mail] section, add:

    Mail Root Directory=J:\Opera Mail Folder
    

    and save. (literally put "Opera Mail Folder".)

    You can then ignore the "mail" folder in "C:\Users\your_user_name\AppData\Local\Opera Mail\Opera Mail".

    Start Opera Mail (making sure the Opera Mail shortcut is pointing to "C:\Program Files\Opera Mail\operamail.exe).

    Use "Menu -> mail and chat accounts -> add" to add all your acocunts.

    Once you get that far, all you need to do is import messages that are no longer on the server. See the "for each pop account" part in this comment. You'll have to decide what old mail folder has the messages that are no longer on the server. Or, you can just import from all the store folders and delete the imported duplicates. Whatever you need to do. Then, you can import your contacts.

    Once you have everything down, you can delete (or move to a backup just for good measure) all the OperaMail10 folders (the one on the J drive and the one's in the Roaming and Local AppData folders).

    Then, Opera Mail should be installed correctly, but with a custom mail folder location.

  • Best burnout426 thanks a lot again for your extensive help - I appreciate it much.
    I have a view points that I need to clarify.

    For the first part new installation of Opera I'm clear - I guess I do not do an install before that new installation?

    When it gets to mail accounts -I'm not so sure anymore. I know it seems as if I had 7 accounts or so but that is not correct. It was probably the case that I always only had two active accounts (one IMAP and one POP). The rest are probably redundant accounts from previous versions and upgrades? But I understand I have to import them as well or at least the mails associated with them.
    And here my problem starts how is that working out in detail - I'm not sure? Sorry but that is my slowness again. ANd before I do anything that prevents later repair I rather ask twice.
    Have a good day

  • I guess I do not do an install before that new installation?

    An uninstall? Correct. You don't need to uninstall anything before you do the new installation.

    When it gets to mail accounts -I'm not so sure anymore. I know it seems as if I had 7 accounts or so but that is not correct. It was probably the case that I always only had two active accounts (one IMAP and one POP).

    OK. Just use "Menu -> mail and chat accounts -> add" to just add the two accounts then.

    The rest are probably redundant accounts from previous versions and upgrades? But I understand I have to import them as well or at least the mails associated with them.
    And here my problem starts how is that working out in detail - I'm not sure?

    "Menu -> settings -> import and export -> import mail -> import generic mbox -> add folder". Point it to the store/accountN folder in the mail folder and set it to import into a new account. Then, repeat for each other accountN folder you want.

    Then, you'll have your two account, and a bunch of other archive accounts so you can still see your old mail.

    That'd be the easiest way for you I think.

  • Best burnout426,
    thanks for your additional help - its greatly appreciated.
    Currently I'm visiting my parents - but I will try Monday on my home computer.
    I will let you know how it was working out.
    Regards,
    Thomas

  • Hello burnout426 I'm back from my parents - had to say them goodbye and that worked out pretty good.
    On the family machine I have reinstalled Opera as to your directions and also adjusted the settings files.
    So everything should be correctly installed and set up.

    In the meanwhile I checked something again and found that there seem to be 4 different mail accounts.
    One for smtp.ziggo.nl, another for mail.ziggo.nl, another for imap.ziggo.nl and the last pop.ziggo.nl
    They all have the same account (user) name and same password.

    I mention this here before I start importing as I'm not sure if the above described import process is aware of this or needs to be made aware of this, or if I have to import all these apart?

    And more practical when I start Opera Mail first screens says "New Account Wizard" with options to select what kind of account you would like to create: Email, Newsgroup, Import Mail. I guess I select Import mail and then next.

    When I do so I get another screen to select a program: Import generic mbox file, Import from Opera, Import from Opera 5/6, Import from Eudora, Import from Netscape 6/7, Import from Thunderbird, Import from Outlook Express.

    I just did read everything above careful again and realized that I am wrong already. What I have to do in the first screen that Opera pops up is to select (to create) Email. And do this for all accounts. My question now is just do I do this for pop and imap or also for mail (how is that done) and smtp (how is that done)? After these accounts have been reestablished I would import the old mail for the computer and the new mail from the server right?

    Please be patient with me it is not just that I want to be careful but it seems that the drugs I´m getting do not help being clear, fast and logic at the moment. I have a feeling that this mail stuff is getting me to my limits at the moment. I tend to check and double check everything just to make sure I´m not talking any incoherent stuff the same goes for doing stupid things.
    Thanks a lot

  • In the meanwhile I checked something again and found that there seem to be 4 different mail accounts.
    One for smtp.ziggo.nl, another for mail.ziggo.nl, another for imap.ziggo.nl and the last pop.ziggo.nl
    They all have the same account (user) name and same password.

    You'd have to look at the settings for the mail.ziggo.nl account to see if it uses IMAP or POP just to see if it's just a copy of the pop.ziggo.nl account or a copy of the imap.ziggol account.

    But, either way, since they all use the same user name, you'd just create one "mail" account for it. You'd choose IMAP. Then, in that new account wizard, for the server name, you'd use imap.ziggo.nl for the incoming server and smtp.ziggo.nl for the outgoing server.

    Then, after the account is set up (along with the other accounts), you'd just import from the pop.ziggo.nl account. And, you'd import from the mail.ziggo.nl account *if* it was a POP account. Otherwise, you'd ignore the mail.ziggo.nl account.

    Note though that if connecting to imap.ziggo.nl doesn't work, you may have to set up the account with the incoming server name of mail.ziggol.nl and use IMAP and then ignore imap.ziggo.nl. Either way, though, you'd still import from pop.ziggo.nl just in case it has any messages that are no longer on the IMAP server.

    And more practical when I start Opera Mail first screens says "New Account Wizard" with options to select what kind of account you would like to create: Email, Newsgroup, Import Mail. I guess I select Import mail and then next.

    No. You create a new "mail" account. Then, afterwards, you'd use "Menu -> mail and chat accounts -> add" to add other mail accounts. Then, after that, you'd use "Menu -> settings -> import and export -> import mail -> import generic mbox -> add folder" and import into a new account.

    I just did read everything above careful again and realized that I am wrong already. What I have to do in the first screen that Opera pops up is to select (to create) Email. And do this for all accounts.

    Yes.

    My question now is just do I do this for pop and imap

    You do this for both POP and IMAP accounts, with the exception about the ziggo account duplicates mentioned above.

    However, for any POP accounts where you can connect via IMAP instead, do that and just import from the old POP account on your computer later. Using the IMAP protocol is just easier and is better in the long run (although I'm sorry to say that the long run is not an issue).

    or also for mail (how is that done) and smtp (how is that done)?

    A "mail" account is what you want. IMAP and POP are types where choose which one after in the dialog for thew new mail account. It tells Opera what protocol to use to connect to the incoming server. Likewise, smtp is the protocol used for the outgoing server and the new mail account wizard will ask you the outgoing server, which will be the smtp one.

    After these accounts have been reestablished I would import the old mail for the computer and the new mail from the server right?

    Close. The new mail from the server will be automatically downloaded to the accounts. All you have to do then is import from the store/accountN folders that represent POP accounts to make sure you get any messages that were fetched via POP and removed from the server.

    Anyway, the first thing you should do is create your mail accounts (IMAP) so that you can continue to converse with family. The importing of older messages from your drive is secondary and can be done after the setup of all your accounts.

    In short, it looks like you only need to create a new mail account that uses IMAP that connects to imap.ziggo.nl and not create any other accounts Then, you just need to import from all the old pop.ziggo.nl accountN folders.

    In short, unless I'm mistaken, judging by your accounts.ini data you posted, it only looks like you have one mail account and that's with ziggo. So, you just need to create one mail account in Opera. The rest that you had look to just be duplicates.

    Now, if you have to start over, just delete everything in the new mail folder while Opera is closed. When it starts up, you'll be starting fresh once again.

    Then, just create one new "mail" account with this info:

    Type: IMAP
    incoming server name: imap.ziggo.nl
    port: 993
    TLS: checked
    username: your email address
    password: your password
    
    outgoing server name: smtp.ziggo.nl
    port: 465
    TLS: checked
    username: your email address
    password: your password
    

    Once the account is created, you should be able to send and receive messages. On the "IMAP" tab in the account's properties, make sure to set your sent, trash and spam folders.

    Then, all you have to do is import old messages and then we can go from there.

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