Opera comes with Flash pre-installed?

[A Former User]

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Hello jayaguru-shishya,

It sounds as if you're really sorting this out piece by piece. This is great news.

Remember, though, we want to end up with Adobe Flash. Remember our friend, gustavwiz? He was always right when he said that we needed Adobe Flash. My small contribution to the discussion was simply to suggest a way for us to get it in our Chromium-based browsers. And to do that, we need pepperflashplugin-nonfree as a vehicle to get there. Google Chrome, by the way, gives us an automatically updated Adobe Flash by automatically updating our "pepperflashplugin-nonfree."

Remember, this is what I see in both Chromium and Opera after running the command:

chrome://plugins

I see:

Adobe Flash Player
Version: 21.0.0.216
Shockwave Flash 21.0 r0

And that's what I want you, gustavwiz, and me to see when we run that command.

It's crazy, I know, but this entire thread is nothing more than a quest to see that simple three line statement after we run the chrome://plugins command in the omnibox of our respective chromium-based browsers!

perknh

[A Former User]

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@perknh, yeppp! This is what "chrome://plugins" says in my Chromium:

Adobe Flash Player - Version: 21.0.0.216
Shockwave Flash 21.0 r0
Name: Shockwave Flash
Description: Shockwave Flash 21.0 r0
Version: 21.0.0.216
Location: /usr/lib/pepflashplugin-installer/libpepflashplayer.so
Type: PPAPI (out-of-process)

In my Opera, though, there's not flash at all in the list. Not even the 99.999.999.999 version, which I had earlier.

I know that Chrome would be an easy way to get everything in order, but I've been clinging stubbornly to the free-souce code version, Chromium. Well, Opera isn't actually free-source code, but I've been using it for other reasons ever since my days in the Windows camp.

[A Former User]

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Hi jayaguru-shishya,

The classic way to learn Linux is by your approach. When something is broken, fix it: Don't reinstall. I respect your approach.

Have you rebooted? Have you tried running a page from within Opera with which you know you need Flash such as:

http://www.cbsnews.com

Your Adobe Flash for Chromium should be working in your Opera browser now. This isn't making a whole lot of sense to me. What version of Opera are you running?

I'm running this:

Version information

Version: 37.0.2178.32 - Opera is up to date
Update stream: Stable
System: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (x86_64; XFCE)

Yours should be the version even if you're running Ubuntu Unity 14.04+

To be honest with you, jayaguru-shishya, I'm stumped for the time being. You're so close that I'm not even convinced that Chrome could help you now. Maybe...but I'm not certain that it would.

Do you think that upgrading to 16.04 might help? That's what I'm running here, and is the next to last rabbit I can pull out of my hat.

That command, which is to upgrade a distribution, is:

sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

Maybe that could jump start Flash in Opera, but I can't guarantee it.

My final rabbit, by the way, is to access, or ask about this particular issue, in Ubuntu's forum --which can be a rough place at times, but not always.

I'm not giving up here, jayaguru-shishya. I just don't know what else to do. I'm drawing a big blank here. To begin, please check to see if your version of Opera is up-to-date, or reboot, or log out and then back in. Then look at your Opera Adobe Flash numbers again. Something is a little off here --but you're so close to finding a solution. Don't stop now!

perknh

[A Former User]

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@perknh: Sorry for keeping you waiting, my friend! It's been a busy day for sure! I must say, now finally it is starting to make sense to me Let's see...

1. The version of Opera that I am currently running is reported as follows:

   Version: 37.0.2178.32 - Opera is up to date
   Update stream: Stable
   System: Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS (x86_64; Unity)

2. Yes, I did reboot and check if it is working, but it is not Also tested by some flash-requiring applications that my Chromium can run, but Firefox and Opera cannot.

Here is my own analysis:

3. "adobeflash-plugin" indeed does prevent "pepperflash-plugin" from working properly. Whereas the former is installed, the system automatically prefers it over the latter one. Could this problem be overcome? Perhaps. For example, if you see the "Install Pepper Flash for Chromium in Ubuntu" instructions (www.webupd8.org/2013/04/install-pepper-flash-player-for.html), their attempt is to create a gedit file for the browser to use pepperflash as its default settings. Maybe this could be used for the Opera browser as well. However, that didn't work in my case with my Chromium.

4. Now, let's have a quick chronological overview:

   First, the only browser I had was Firefox
   Second, I installed the Chromium browser to my Linux Ubuntu 14.04 LTS system
   Third, @perknh helped me to install pepperflash-plugin here at the Opera forum; this included purging all the remains of "adobeflash-plugin"
   Fifth, the "pepperflash-plugin" started to work perfectly on my Chromium
   Sixth, I installed the Opera browser; MY ASSUMPTION is that the Opera browser comes with "adobeflash-plugin" that does prevent "pepperflash-plugin" from working properly (which takes us back to square ONE)
   Seventh, as said in the sixth step indeed, the "pepperflash-plugin" in my Chromium DID STOP from working. HOWEVER, Opera now displays this bugged flash version "99.xxxxxxxxxx" etc.
   Eight [after a lot of hassle...], I finally re-purged the "adobeflash-plugin". The result is two-fold: 1) Opera (opera://plugins) ceases to display flash of ANY SORT, whereas 2) Chromium starts to show the up-to-date flash version AGAIN!

So in my strongly newbie analysis, I've reached a conclusion that "pepperflash-plugin" and "adobeflash-plugin" indeed compete against each other. Now I am just guessing, but I'd assume that the former would already include the latter, or at least be a modification of the latter. If there are two competing plugins on the system though, the system needs to select one.

Now recall back to the text file, the gedit file they were telling to create in one of the installation instructions. Wouldn't it make sense that the file is ought to be created TO DEFINE THE PREFERENCE ORDER of the existing plugins for the browser (in this case Chromium, but why not for Opera too)??

Well, as I said in my case, it didn't quite work as such for me, but on the other hand I had already removed all the rivalling competitors ("adobeflash-plugin", and there was also this "skunk")

Well, these are just newbies thoughts.

Ps. Thanks for the distro-update command It might solve the problem as well; actually I was waiting till the update can be carried out through an installed, but now after having played with the console a little bit - thanks to you - I think I might do it right now.

[A Former User]

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Hello jayaguru-shishya,

It's good to hear from you. I'm scratching my head on this one. Since we both using Ubuntu (mine is an Xfce version of Ubuntu), and we both have Firefox installed, as well as Chromium and Opera, why is Adobe Flash working correctly for me in Chromium and Opera, and not for you?

(I rarely use Firefox --but if it's Flash-free, I'm happy with that.)

jayaguru-shishya, I haven't given you any commands to run in your terminal that I haven't run on my own system. I just don't understand why Flash isn't working correctly with your installation of Opera when it's working perfectly fine on mine.. This makes no sense to me. I think now, jayaguru-shishya, you have a darn good question to ask our friends in Ubuntu forum.

I'd sure love to hear what they have to say, and, if you post the link, I'll go there. This will be a learning experience for me too.

perknh

[A Former User]

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Hahaha, that's a darn good question my friend! Well, I was waiting for a harsh fire-of-babptism to Linux, but I must say this wasn't as hard and full of despair as I expected. Well, it still left me wondering - DEEPLY.

I'll take this to the Ubuntu forums next. I'll promise to keep you updated via this discussion thread. And after all, this is an Opera forum, and we are trying to install "pepperflash-plugin" for the Opera browser! ... although it took some unexpected turns

Thanks for all your help again, perknh! Now, from Pontius Pilate (Opera forums) to Herodes the Great (Ubuntu forums). And we'll all know how the story goes; I will be back here in no time! Hahahaha

[A Former User]

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There are some good people over there, jayaguru-shishya. I just hope they're the people you encounter first.

Here's the link for Ubuntu Forums:

http://ubuntuforums.org

[burnout426]

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Chromium has a command-line setting for the pepper flash path. Maybe it'll work for Opera too. It's --ppapi-flash-path=path_to_plugin

[A Former User]

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Hi there @perknh! Just like many movies have an interesting plot line, but the climax can be kind of a boring one, so it is with our journey:

Upgrading to Linux Ubuntu 16.04 LTS fixed all the problems. Now, both my Opera and Chromium are running the latest version of flash. This doesn't mean, of course, that installing the pepperflash-plugin wouldn't be necessary. Well, Firefox is long purged now, and now I have moved exclusively to Opera.

Well, I expect this thread still can be found useful for those Linux users who are still waiting for the Linux Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS release (indeed, at this point I am still running a test-version).

Thanks all of you guys, especially @perknh! The Linux community has proved worthy of its reputation as a source of technical support! This is something I've never experienced in the Windows camp. Thank you!

[A Former User]

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You're certainly welcome, jayaguru-shishya.

This is terrific news. Congratulations!

Please remember to keep Peppermint on your short list of future distributions to try. Opera browser and Peppermint Linux OS go very well together. And, in the meanwhile, have fun with Opera and Ubuntu.

All the best to you.

perknh

[A Former User]

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@perknh, unfortunately the problem has re-emerged. "opera://plugins" gives the version information as folllows:

Adobe Flash Player
Version: 21.0.0.216
Shockwave Flash 21.0 r0

However, when I try to open media that requires flash, I'm told that "Adobe Flash Player is out of date." I have no problems running Flash with my Chromium browser though, so it's just Opera.

[A Former User]

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Hi jayaguru-shishya,

Try this, and see how this goes for you:

sudo apt-get install --reinstall pepperflashplugin-nonfree

Then run this to see if Opera's Flash has been updated:

sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --status

Knock on wood!

perknh

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[sgunhouse]

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Latest version is 22.0.0.209 ...

[variatox]

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Latest version is 22.0.0.209 ...

Thanks. That's what I get when checking the Adobe check page.