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    • evoid
      evoid last edited by

      [mod edit: stay on topic and don't hijack posts please]
      Speed is not everything... one needs some luxury and style too. Opera lost that somewhere. Multiple instances is not really a good way forward, even if it does increase speed.

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      • tcolgan001
        tcolgan001 last edited by

        After updating to multiprocessor version had definite computer slow-down.

        It's back to 12.17 for me (a version that also works with outlook).

        In addition, always thought that there was a definite advantage of a single-process browser. If things screw up, just shut it down and restart it. Multiple processes seem to multiply like rabbit droppings. Need to open task manager to clean them all up.

        Anyone else feel the same?

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        • supernicknick
          supernicknick last edited by

          Opera 12 64bit runs plugins on a separate process, so if for example Flash crashes, Opera 12-64 doesnt. Or so have been my experiences. Running windows on a separate process is a memory eating gimmick imho, i have yet to see any benefit from that. In fact, if it goes crazy it is kept within a few cores (i have 8 in total) and doesnt affect the rest of the PC.

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          • christoph142
            christoph142 last edited by

            A tab may crash as well. And in this case, a multi-process browser doesn't die with it, but can handle it.
            There's light and shadow to everything on earth...

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            • taintedangel
              taintedangel last edited by

              With Opera using so many processes, it weighs down my system and slows my entire system down and most times it crashes my computer.

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              • lando242
                lando242 last edited by

                Yeah, its not Opera causing the problem. Having several processes running doesn't cause problems. Windows itself off a clean install generally runs 40-60 processes depending on the version of the OS you are using. Opera running 5 is not the sources of your computer crashing nor is it why your computer is running slowly. Either your system is so old it will be eligible to vote in 2016 or you've got some malware or other system issue as the root cause.

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                • Deleted User
                  Deleted User last edited by

                  Opera 26 takes huge time to open/close tabs (about 1 sec compared to 0 in opera 12) whether it's due to process per tab or not. When click new/anylink/close, there's no wait cursor, just hanging for 1 second.
                  i5 8GB Win7-64

                  Is it same case for other users?

                  I try to get used to new version but I hate this. Like bad dream where you try to run and cannot, moving sooo slow 🙂

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                  • lando242
                    lando242 last edited by

                    It shouldn't operate like that and for most users it doesn't. Sounds to me like you have some kind of malware infection. Get a copy of Malwarebytes, Spybot and CCleaner and have them have a go at your system. Things like Norton are kind of useless for that.

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                    • Deleted User
                      Deleted User last edited by

                      Thanks I'll give them a try
                      Although I don't experience any slowdowns in other programs (like 3d games). Google chrome is blazing fast.

                      BTW while I type this text I feel freezes like each 5 seconds (in text editor). Opened this same page in google chrome and editor shows no lags. Not whining, using opera since 2002 sun solaris version 🙂

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                      • lando242
                        lando242 last edited by

                        Yeah, that definitely doesn't sound normal for Opera. If those malware scanners don't turn up anything I can't think of what the source of your problems would be. You don't have Opera Turbo turned on by accident do you?

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                        • A Former User
                          A Former User last edited by

                          If all the specs of your install fit your system reqs, what plug-ins and extensions do you have installed and enabled? I had a certain conflict in my Chrome recently, so...

                          Actually, it was a player, a separate app but sorta "integrated" etc.
                          Try running your browser for a while with everything else shut the hell down...:idea:

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                          • Deleted User
                            Deleted User last edited by

                            I'm pretty sure my i5 is quite capable.
                            No plugins extensions etc in opera, pure stock. No malware (have run Malwarebytes to make sure, also run avast constantly)
                            No Opera turbo.

                            I frequently run the Opera as single app and it's the same as together with some 3d games. Tried without uTorrent -the same.
                            I guess I'm gonna reinstall 26 /rollback to v25 to see if it makes any difference.

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                            • Deleted User
                              Deleted User last edited by

                              mistery solved, I had 3 tabs with apparently overscripted site ( adme.ru ), in Opera 12 I had JS disabled for it.
                              closed them and everything is back to normal
                              thanks to everyone for advices

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                              • tinymanticore
                                tinymanticore last edited by

                                There is no reason to have multiple processes. Proper threading will handle it and save on memory usage.

                                The real problem with all browsing these days seems to be JavaScript. it is a lethal disease that has crept into internet. A good browser needs to put a muzzlie on JS. Otherwise it will gobble up everything and give you nothing but an "experience" you'll not want to repeat.

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                                • lando242
                                  lando242 last edited by

                                  There is no reason to have multiple processes.

                                  Sure there is. If a tab crashes and your whole web browser uses only a single process, welp, back to the desktop you go. If each tab and extension is in its own process, when one crashes it only takes out that one extension or tab. The browser keep on going and you can easily track down whats causing the problem without losing whatever else was open at the time. It also allows you to use multiple CPU cores for your program without having to make complex and difficult to maintain multi-threaded code.

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                                  • dawggoodie
                                    dawggoodie last edited by

                                    It is not the number of processes, but the amount of memory each demands. The point is that with a couple of open tabs displaying static content, Opera eats half a gig.

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                                    • lando242
                                      lando242 last edited by

                                      Is half a gig a lot of memory in your opinion? How much RAM does your system have? 4 gigabytes is considered a pretty minimal amount to have if you want to run any version of Windows made after XP. As long as your system isn't using its swap file it doesn't matter how much load your RAM is under. That is what it is there for and you wont see performance fall if its under 90% load as long as the swap file isn't being used.

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                                      • BLKBRDSR71
                                        BLKBRDSR71 last edited by

                                        All of you above answered all my questions. Thanks.

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                                        • kimiraikkonen85
                                          kimiraikkonen85 last edited by

                                          I have the same issue. Having Opera 34, i have 7 opera.exe*32 on my Win7 SP 64-bit box. Is it a multithreading way of processing? I have I7 cpu with 4 cores (8 threads).

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                                          • blackbird71
                                            blackbird71 last edited by

                                            It's really a multi-process design way of architecting a browser's operation. The browser, its GUI, each of its extensions, and each browser tab all run in their own separate processes. This is supposed to improve crash resistance and security should something in one of the processes go sour or rogue. All the chromish browsers use multi-process mechanisms (Chrome, Opera, Vivaldi, etc, etc) and the story is that Firefox will be moving to some sort of multiple-process system of its own shortly. At the end of the day, the technique does end up requiring a bit more RAM and processor cycles, but I'll leave the quality/magnitude of the crash/security improvements for others to debate.

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