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    • A Former User
      A Former User last edited by

      After ten years of developing the old forum, getting it working with profiles, smilies, code markup, bullets, quotes, quick quotes, etc., you throw it all away, and we're back to square one again with a characterless forum that no one wants to use.

      Why throw away all that hard work and start over again? Don't you guys have enough to do with rewriting Opera?

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      • ice007
        ice007 last edited by

        The forums use Gravatar.com for avatars; use the same email address there as you have in your Opera account, and your Gravatar avatar will magically appear on the forums 🙂

        Fantastic! Just another Internet "service" I should entrust my data. 😳
        So no reason for a smilie and certainly this is not "magically"!

        In the German Wiki there is a hint of the risks behind Gravatar!
        (not in the English version, so, if needed, use Google for translation)

        "Es besteht aber auch Kritik an Gravataren. Durch die Verwendung bei unterschiedlichen Internetaktivitäten ist dem Betreiber des Dienstes die Erstellung eines umfassenden Benutzerprofiles des Benutzers möglich, das der Anbieter beispielsweise für Werbezwecke verwenden kann. Auch Ermittlungsbehörden können dadurch auf einfache Art und Weise umfassenden Einblick in die Aktivitäten des Benutzers gewinnen."

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        • mgmgdgtd
          mgmgdgtd last edited by

          @pesala
          Checking forums.opera.com domain with a proper tool you can discover some interesting stuff. Opera wants to provide a new type of services rebranding dead ones like Minitel and passing over bifrost uber alles being supported by Big Brother. Facing new demands that's a good reason for starting over, doesn't it?

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          • A Former User
            A Former User last edited by

            I did check forums.opera.com with a proper tool — Opera 11.64. It is utterly featureless and ugly. It is difficult to navigate, lacking in features, and bland. It is understood that not all forum threads may be imported, but the underlying code should have been retained from my.opera. How long does it take to move some code to a different URL? If I use a forum on my website, I can upload it to a mirror in a few seconds.

            The only good reason to change is if something is badly broken. The MyOpera was not broken — though it was infested with spammers and trolls, but that has nothing to the do with the front end that is seen by users.

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            • j7nj7n
              j7nj7n last edited by

              The forums use Gravatar.com for avatars; use the same email address there as you have in your Opera account, and your Gravatar avatar will magically appear on the forums 🙂
              Fantastic! Just another Internet "service" I should entrust my data. 😳
              So no reason for a smilie and certainly this is not "magically"!
              These forums are rather fast, relatively speaking. But the use of Gravatar makes them 10 times as slow, as they could have been.

              A connection to gravatar is made over Secure HTTP which introduces latency; the avatar for every user who's post is contained of the current page is requested; the forum has no knowledge about which user has one set up, and which one has not.

              Dragonfly Network Log

              If I block gravatar in Urlfilter, Opera forums become much faster, but also much less readable as even the placeholder default avatar is then gone.

              You would have done better relying on an existing forum engine; probably an old version of one.

              BBCode shouldn't have been replaced. And while Markdown reminds of typing in plaintext in Opera M2; i intuitively type BBCode when on the web. It works on all forums almost the same way, one doesn't need to learn it. Well, worked until people like you pushed it out. How do we type [quote=Author][/quote] ? This is useful for headings of any blocks of text.

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              • magnuspeterlangeland
                magnuspeterlangeland last edited by

                I was encouraged when you said on the old forums yesterday 'Our forums will not be closed, just moved. All content will be moved as well.' implying that ALL the content would be moved over here. I imagine that will take time, but is it the intention, or will it remain as at the moment with just a small selection of forums moved over and then only with posts back to last November?
                Looks a bit bare at the moment, but just testing to see I can post...
                ps. How do I move my favicon over, I see nothing in 'profile' or 'edit account' for this, or for that matter little else.

                The old forums had a ton of old content that was not used anymore, so we only imported the most active threads from the last six months. Sorry for any confusion 🙂

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                • mgmgdgtd
                  mgmgdgtd last edited by

                  @pesala
                  ^ Well, you see Ag mech and engineering failure laws in action and I see clouding movement, ain't bad either way but as a user I don't see any aesthetic inconvenience or as you said 'front user' (which is in front of me) bad experience. You see, the problem is other way around, what if Odinson from above Bifrost will hit me with something like a Lightning and after that I will eat only Opera donuts? The new forum can pinpoint the newest line of products focusing on future innovations and development... Bla bla, stuff like that. I still prefer back-end look-up as approach, that will combine my purposes with their demands not vice versa.

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                  • A Former User
                    A Former User last edited by

                    Now what?
                    [list=digital]
                    [#]Why the usernames have been stripped of their capitals?
                    [#]Why must I have a "anonymous" "avatar" when I don't care (so long as I can't upload or hotlink it) - instead of just not having any?
                    [#]I want some [colour] themes to choose.
                    [/list]

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                    • A Former User
                      A Former User last edited by

                      Hell! why my linebreaks are not rendered altogether?
                      Yeah, and CtrlEnter doesn't work.
                      Ah! and I can't further edit after hitting "Preview"!:irked: 😠

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                      • A Former User
                        A Former User last edited by

                        Check.
                        Check.

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                        • A Former User
                          A Former User last edited by

                          Text rendering looks more like a chat. Rather than...

                          Check...:/

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                          • A Former User
                            A Former User last edited by

                            It worked!

                            I placed SEVERAL linebreaks - then it worked...

                            1. Check...
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                            • A Former User
                              A Former User last edited by

                              Hell! it was "6":-/

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                              • A Former User
                                A Former User last edited by

                                Yup. 2 linebreaks work - making a linebreak:crazy:

                                Nice!..

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                                • A Former User
                                  A Former User last edited by

                                  The "tools" post option seems not working (Firefox).
                                  In Chrome, that works: it opens an "edit" option.

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                                  • A Former User
                                    A Former User last edited by

                                    Silly question probably, but do you still get e-mail notification of posts to threads you've subscribed to?
                                    I see no mention of this anywhere in the profile settings.
                                    And why no smilies?
                                    Forums aren't the same without smiles!
                                    🙂

                                    We have email functionality, but we haven't enabled it yet. This is because we currently don't have a way of letting our users choose what emails to receive, if any. Until we implement this we won't turn on email notifications.
                                    Regarding smileys we hope to improve the forums as time goes, and smileys is definitely one of the things i want implemented too 🙂

                                    Thanks digmed, good to know that these things are hopefully coming!
                                    🙂

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                                    • since5
                                      since5 last edited by

                                      For some reason Opera's recent changes do not impress me. PSY could actually rewrite the hit song to "Google Style".

                                      Selective import of old threads? Be sure to include all the kudos and positive feedback...

                                      I've been a satisfied user and an enthuastic evangeiist of Opera since the dawn of the browser - OK, from version five or something. I also remember the ads in the ancient browsers... but I tell you this: I don't know what's gonna happen but I don't like the way things are today.

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                                      • A Former User
                                        A Former User last edited by

                                        Still the same problems with spam, but now no way to report it.

                                        https://forums.opera.com/discussion/1830572/your-loved-one-with-alzheime#Item_1

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                                        • A Former User
                                          A Former User last edited by

                                          Thanks I love Markdown.
                                          BTW is there an easy way to backup old forums before 3 march ? Especially my subscribed topics ?
                                          I will do it manually otherwise…

                                          Also, each time i write in this new forum (Opera 12.16) it sends me to an unknown page with a port number etc.
                                          It actually posts my message but I get an error page and cannot go back to the topic (the history is not kept).

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                                          • A Former User
                                            A Former User last edited by

                                            Thanks I love Markdown.
                                            BTW is there an easy way to backup old forums before 3 march ? Especially my subscribed topics ?
                                            I will do it manually otherwise…
                                            Also, each time i write in this new forum (Opera 12.16) it sends me to an unknown page with a port number etc.
                                            It actually posts my message but I get an error page and cannot go back to the topic (the history is not kept).

                                            I don’t know why but this time it worked. I had this problem in all my posts of Windows Opera forums (new).

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