Where are the bookmarks in Opera 18?
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A Former User last edited by
Originally posted by saiyan:
Opera 18 simply works?
Sarchasm: the gulf of understanding between the one using it and the one not understanding it.
Importing bookmarks works fine, for importing from a previous Opera version in my experience. Later, we may get import of bookmarks from other browsers. For now, I recommend installing old Opera and using that as your default. Test Opera 18+ onwards alongside it and use it for those sites that don't work in old Opera.
Give it another six months before Opera 25 (or whatever) is worth upgrading to.
Originally posted by saiyan:
I tried this approach but it still does not have the option to import into QAB...
Did you enable the QAB using "opera:flags" and then Settings?
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tonyire57 last edited by
Hello I am new to this and this is my first ever post. I was looking for an alternative browser to firefox and have used opera in the past however i have the same problem i like to use bookmarks and have no way of importing them into opera 18 or at least a quick way.
My solution and it works for me until something is done. I exported my bookmarks file HTML from firefox to a folder in my pc directory then opened with opera 18 all the bookmarks are seen as a web page then i just added that page to speed dial I can scroll down and click the bookmark i want and this works for me granted it is not in a fancy tab however this solution works until something is done.
As i said this is my first ever post anywhere and don't profess to be any kind of expert just found a solution that works for now
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A Former User last edited by
Simple solutions are often the best — at least until something better is available.
Users who have synchronised Opera can simply bookmark this page to find their bookmarks using any browser without needing to import them anywhere.
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saiyan last edited by
Originally posted by Pesala:
Did you enable the QAB using "opera:flags" and then Settings?
Oh yes.. QAB is enabled already.. I'm staring at the blank QAB bar that says "For quick access, add your bookmarks to this bar".
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A Former User last edited by
So have you tried to import your bookmarks using the Bookmark Importer on the Opera menu, More Tools?
You don't have to use any extensions.
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A Former User last edited by
Originally posted by rilef:
That is, you don't get a second chance for a first-time installation.
If that happens, try this:
"<Path to Opera 18>\launcher.exe" --presto-small-prefs-dir="<Path to Old Opera>\profile" -
saiyan last edited by
I have already tried the command line option "--presto-small-prefs-dir" before and it did not work.
FYI. I had Opera 12 x64 installed before so my Opera 12 profile is in C:\Users[my_user_name]\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera x64.
And here this is what I ran at the command line window.
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Opera\launcher.exe" --presto-small-prefs-dir="C:\Users[my_user_name]\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera x64"
Opera 18 launched with all new profile and enabled QAB.
When I entered "opera://bookmark-importer" in the address bar and clicked on either "Convert to Speed Dial" or "Convert to Quick Access Bar", the "Imported Bookmarks" is basically blank except a "Back" button a message that said "Bookmarks inside a folder will be merged into one Speed Dial folder.".(If the wrong profile directory was entered at command line, Bookmark Importer won't even have this "Imported Bookmarks" section displayed.
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cooljoebay last edited by
NO PERSONAL TOOLBAR!!
I fully agree with the op. The new opera is a piece of shit. There's no nice way to put it. It's a major step backwards. And it seems like a political move to me because I know NOBODY is stupid enough to have created this version on purpose and with good intentions. They probably want to piss everyone off just to get attention. Its all about competition and profit I guess. If I am wrong, then prove it. Goodbye quality product. Hello, prettier but dumber one. :rip:
YOU CAN'T EVEN CHANGE THE BUTTONS ANYMORE!!
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A Former User last edited by
Originally posted by cooljoebay:
If I am wrong, then prove it.
See how to enable the personal toolbar in Opera 18.
You are wrong in so many ways, but I won't bother to go into details. It has all been said before. Search the forums before posting nonsense.
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Deleted User last edited by
Originally posted by Pesala:
Originally posted by cooljoebay:
If I am wrong, then prove it.
See how to enable the personal toolbar in Opera 18.
You are wrong in so many ways, but I won't bother to go into details. It has all been said before. Search the forums before posting nonsense.
The forums say many things. For example, the forums say that the QAB is not a bookmarks manager. Some official comments by the employees imply that the bookmarks manager is in the making, hence it is non-existent right now. On the other hand, the original intention appears to have been that everybody should be happy with the extended speed dial for all their bookmarks and their management. Then again, the bookmarks importer doesn't work for the majority, as seen in the current thread. Etc.
If you were objective, you would be capable of some adequate comparisons between the current product and Opera 11 that you use, and also compare the current product with other browsers. In which browser are bookmarks an experimental feature hidden under advanced settings, risky and unreliable to switch on?
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A Former User last edited by
Originally posted by ersi:
For example, the forums say that the QAB is not a bookmarks manager.
cooljoebay complained about the lack of a personal toolbar, aka Bookmarks Bar, aka Quick Access Bar. I think rilef's comment explains why it's not enabled by default yet.
Originally posted by rilef:
The current implementation of the Quick Access Bar(QAB)/Bookmarks Toolbar appears to be a temporary patch, not a permanent, albeit incomplete, solution to the absence of bookmarks. The QAB database appears to be a plain text file, named simply "bookmarks", and kept in the user's profile folder, rather than in a modern database file.
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frenzie last edited by
Originally posted by Pesala:
Originally posted by ersi:
For example, the forums say that the QAB is not a bookmarks manager.
cooljoebay complained about the lack of a personal toolbar, aka Bookmarks Bar, aka Quick Access Bar. I think rilef's comment explains why it's not enabled by default yet.
Originally posted by rilef:
The current implementation of the Quick Access Bar(QAB)/Bookmarks Toolbar appears to be a temporary patch, not a permanent, albeit incomplete, solution to the absence of bookmarks. The QAB database appears to be a plain text file, named simply "bookmarks", and kept in the user's profile folder, rather than in a modern database file.
Whoa, whoa, whoa! If it's a plain-text file that's freaking fantastic! The first good news I've heard.
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frenzie last edited by
Originally posted by rilef:
The "bookmarks" plain text file, if it indeed serves as the QAB database, is the only Opera 18 database I've found that is plain text. That's why I think it's a temporary, quick fix.
Would you rather access your data through SQLite? I've had to do some of that in Firefox. It's a huge increase in complexity with not one single advantage as far as I can see. It just puts the user further away from their data. I can do it, but that's besides the point. If Opera had thrown up database-based obstacles back in 2001 chances are I wouldn't be able to today.
I'm probably wrong, but I prefer to think of it as a first step toward bringing Opera/Presto proper Unix-style plain-text configuration to the overall atrocity of Chromium.
Edit: grammar "If Opera would've thrown up" -> "If Opera had thrown up"
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Deleted User last edited by
Originally posted by Frenzie:
Would you rather access your data through SQLite? I've had to do some of that in Firefox. It's a huge increase in complexity with not one single advantage as far as I can see.
Because you tried to see it from the perspective of an user.
If you try to see it from the perspective of a contractor, there is a big advantage which you already mentioned:Originally posted by Frenzie:
It just puts the user further away from their data.
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frenzie last edited by
Originally posted by Krake:
If you try to see it from the perspective of a contractor, there is a big advantage which you already mentioned
I'm not sure who the contractor is, but how do they profit from that?
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Deleted User last edited by
Originally posted by Frenzie:
I'm not sure who the contractor is,
Neither am I. If I recall exactly, it was Bruce Lawson who mentioned about contractors in the (old) Desktop Team Blog.
It was about Opera considering wishes of their user base but also having to consider those of its contractors.
It doesn't need a genius to realise that wishes of the two parties don't have to overlap unconditioned all the time...Originally posted by Frenzie:
but how do they profit from that?
My comment was about generally killing user friendly formats to make it harder to access, review, modify or delete default content.
With Australis, Mozilla went a step onward starting to remove from the GUI a basic option. Namely switching on/off scripting.
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frenzie last edited by
Originally posted by Krake:
My comment was about generally killing user friendly formats to make it harder to access, review, modify or delete default content.
Yet it can't be that much harder to write some malware that (ab)uses SQLite to change something or other about your bookmarks than to write some that messes with your plain-text bookmarks. In both cases you have to figure out the data format and you have to write a program to manipulate it. Heck, it might actually be simpler to do it with SQLite because a library that does all the information getting and setting for you will already be available on the system, while with plain-text you potentially might have to reverse engineer some stuff the program in question does. I wouldn't be surprised if SQLite puts malware authors closer to your data or at the very least no further, while it only makes things less accessible to the user.
And as for the general trend, that's very true. At some point in the past few years Skype also switched from plain-text logs to either SQLite or something similar. I don't care that it's proprietary or whatever, but that's making me reconsider my use of the program. I want to search my logs with whatever tool I freaking want, including 50 years from now when I barely even remember what Skype the proprietary binary was. Plain text is for the ages and super convenient.
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Deleted User last edited by
Originally posted by Frenzie:
Originally posted by Krake:
My comment was about generally killing user friendly formats to make it harder to access, review, modify or delete default content.
Yet it can't be that much harder to write some malware that (ab)uses SQLite to change something or other about your bookmarks than to write some that messes with your plain-text bookmarks.
Once again, my comment wasn't related to bookmarks specifically but for killing user friendly formats generally.
And no it's not meant to prevent malware to access, review, modify or delete default content but the user.Once started and gaining privileges malware can do anything, regardless of how software is designed.
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frenzie last edited by
Originally posted by Krake:
Once again, my comment wasn't related to bookmarks specifically but for killing user friendly formats generally.
And no it's not meant to prevent malware to access, review, modify or delete default content but the user.I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Are you saying it's a form of proprietary lock-in? It's my data. I want to access and modify it however I want.
Originally posted by Krake:
Once started and gaining privileges malware can do anything, regardless of how software is designed.
Exactly. This, a thousand times this.
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Deleted User last edited by
Originally posted by Frenzie:
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Are you saying it's a form of proprietary lock-in?
Exactly.
It's up to you to use such software or not. However I'm afraid your (and our all) options are very limited and will be even more in the future...
