12.15 forces Google as search engine

[A Former User]

A Former User last edited by

Originally posted by mimi_s_mum:

I guess duplicates are still better than no report.

Yes, there's no problem with it... I haven't said here before that I've done that, definitely more people also reported it.

[Deleted User]

Deleted User last edited by

I too have filed a bug report: DSK-384117

[A Former User]

A Former User last edited by

I did it first! 383945 < 384117 < 384235. I'm winning!
Let's see if someone beats me. haha

[Chirpie]

Chirpie last edited by

Originally posted by stepanstas:

In terms of my conclusions, Opera is in love with Google. There is a reason why it defaults to Google. And it continues to override settings in the mobile App which is what I was referring to.

Except Opera defaults to other engines in other countries, such as Yandex in Russia.

Google and Yandex are enemies and at war over the Eastern European search market, and yet Opera ships with Yandex as the default search engine over there.

And yet Opera loves Google?

Your inane claims are getting more and more silly by the second.

[luxor]

luxor last edited by

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

I did it first! 383945 < 384117 < 384235. I'm winning!
Let's see if someone beats me. haha

There is no point doing that, one bug report is enough. Duplicates just waste the developers time.
What should be done is whoever reports the bug first then posts the bug number (minus the @xxxxxxxxx.) in the relevant thread. That way everyone else knows the bug has-been reported and no one else wastes the developers time with unnecessary duplicates.

[stepanstas]

stepanstas last edited by

Originally posted by Chirpie:

Except Opera defaults to other engines in other countries, such as Yandex in Russia.

Google and Yandex are enemies and at war over the Eastern European search market, and yet Opera ships with Yandex as the default search engine over there.

And yet Opera loves Google?

Your inane claims are getting more and more silly by the second.

Thats because Opera has a deal with Yandex in Russia and Google in the US.

[Chirpie]

Chirpie last edited by

Originally posted by stepanstas:

Originally posted by Chirpie:

Except Opera defaults to other engines in other countries, such as Yandex in Russia.

Google and Yandex are enemies and at war over the Eastern European search market, and yet Opera ships with Yandex as the default search engine over there.

And yet Opera loves Google?

Your inane claims are getting more and more silly by the second.

Thats because Opera has a deal with Yandex in Russia and Google in the US.

Exactly. Which is why comments like "Opera is in love with Google. There is a reason why it defaults to Google." are insanely stupid.

[Deleted User]

Deleted User last edited by

Sorry for my interruption. Instead of answering a moderator linked my thread over here and closed it. :down: And I confess to be to annoyed by this Opera-problem to read so much postings in foreign language. So please allow me this question:

Are there already any solutions or at least workarounds?

[frenzie]

frenzie last edited by

Originally posted by a-zeller:

Are there already any solutions or at least workarounds?

Reverting to 12.14 as mentioned in the OP.

[raindog68]

raindog68 last edited by

Good to see this is a known problem. I already reinstalled opera for this issue but will go back to a previous version now. I find it bloody annoying to have Google as default. (preferring Startpage as my default)

[Deleted User]

Deleted User last edited by

I have upgraded from Opera 12.14 to the 12.15, but it doesn't seem to have this issue for me.

[Deleted User]

Deleted User last edited by

I discovered that ixquick.com is not overwritten - don't know why.

[lukaszpp]

lukaszpp last edited by

Going back to 12.14 here also. This is sick. If there will be no workaround Im going to firefox.
By the way. There is an addon:

https://addons.opera.com/pl/extensions/details/searchbox-toolbar-for-opera/?display=en
which could possibly get rid of the problem, but:

1. It is discontinued
2. Somebody would have to write adding new search engine
And this could be a solution/workaround.

[frenzie]

frenzie last edited by

Originally posted by lukaszpp:

If there will be no workaround Im going to firefox.

Try search keywords. It's more efficient regardless.

[schnellinger]

schnellinger last edited by

Originally posted by Luxor:

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

I did it first! 383945 < 384117 < 384235. I'm winning!
Let's see if someone beats me. haha

There is no point doing that, one bug report is enough. Duplicates just waste the developers time.

Hey, if the developers won't waist time, they just should go OPEN bugtracker, like real software does. All Opera to blame.
That nobody knows which bugreport is filled and which not wastes also time for user who report bugs.
Many of us preach since years that the bugreport system is broken by design.
YMMV

[linuxmint7]

linuxmint7 last edited by

Originally posted by Schnellinger:

Hey, if the developers won't waist time, they just should go OPEN bugtracker, like real software does. All Opera to blame.
That nobody knows which bugreport is filled and which not wastes also time for user who report bugs.
Many of us preach since years that the bugreport system is broken by design.
YMMV

That has nothing to do with a single user reporting the same bug multiple times. Which does waste their own time, causes confusion, and also wastes developers time checking every bug number against every bug reported, just to find out that were all the same damn bug. See the problem ?.

[sipertruk]

sipertruk last edited by

If you too are addicted to opera and search engines you can do something like this example for windows, for other os find the "hosts" file there "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts_(file)".
Put that at the end of "C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts" :

xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx google.com

Replace "xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" by an ip address to your favorite engine, if you don't know how to find and ip address from a server name you can use that online tool : http://www.webdnstools.com/dnstools/dns-lookup first tool on the left "Look up DNS Entries".
You could also replace "google.com" by anything else that can be put as default like bing or ixquick.
And put "google.com" or whatever you used as the server name in the url of the default search engine in your opera's settings.

[Deleted User]

Deleted User last edited by

Originally posted by sipertruk:

xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx google.com

Replace "xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" by an ip address to your favorite engine

:doh:

1. That would break a large number of Google services, including those on non-Google sites that don't require a Google account (e.g. Recaptcha).

2. It would be nonsensical anyway. Search query formats differ between engines. StartPage and Ixquick don't even use GET (like Google); they use POST.

[frenzie]

frenzie last edited by

Originally posted by Gingerbread-Man:

StartPage and Ixquick don't even use GET (like Google); they use POST.

Besides the point, but you can search Ixquick with GET. https://ixquick.com/do/search?query=test (of course that is still incompatible with Google's https://google.com?q=test)

[sipertruk]

sipertruk last edited by

Originally posted by Gingerbread-Man:

Originally posted by sipertruk:

xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx google.com

Replace "xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" by an ip address to your favorite engine

:doh:

1. That would break a large number of Google services, including those on non-Google sites that don't require a Google account (e.g. Recaptcha).

2. It would be nonsensical anyway. Search query formats differ between engines. StartPage and Ixquick don't even use GET (like Google); they use POST.

You failed to understand the post.
I didn't say to use google.com in hosts at all cost.
I didn't say to use the whole query from one server with another, just to replace the server name.
Did you even read it beside what you quote ?
The only nonsense is brought by the bug which allow only a few server names and forbid all others for the default engine.