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    • A Former User
      A Former User @yeswap last edited by A Former User

      @yeswap how does that fix opera's issue and display the blocked content in the notification box as expected??

      EDIT:
      to give an example, here's an image of what UBlock displays on this page:
      blocked_content.png
      you can clearly see what content is blocked by the extension

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      • yeswap
        yeswap @Guest last edited by

        @Tcll You can't change what Opera displays and I don't see any reason why they should either. That alert box is for end users. They can't fix your website so all they need to know is that there's a security issue with it.

        It's your website. You are the developer and developer tools should give you the information you need to fix it.

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        • A Former User
          A Former User @yeswap last edited by A Former User

          @yeswap

          That alert box is for end users.

          which doesn't provide enough information

          You are the developer and developer tools should give you the information you need to fix it.

          shouldn't an extension blocking particular domains count as a dev-tool??

          You can't change what Opera displays and I don't see any reason why they should either.

          I mean, I could if I felt like hacking it
          but here's a reason why they should:
          to provide a better quality product and end user experience
          information on blocked data should not be hidden from the end user, that's just poor quality

          if I can make my FOSS applications more quality-packed for end users that displays all information they need to know
          Opera certainly can too
          or is proprietary code really just that bad that the developers can't make things easy for end users to see things?
          (I'm willing to write in the functionality myself, it's so trivial)

          come on guys

          or am I really just backing the wrong people??

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          • yeswap
            yeswap @Guest last edited by

            @Tcll What extension are you using that you think is blocking insecure content?
            All browsers block insecure content by default. As far as I know none of them give end users detailed information.

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            • leocg
              leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by

              If a browser is blocking something because it could be a (security) risk for the user, then why that browser should show the link to what was blocked, exposing the user to the risk?

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              • A Former User
                A Former User @leocg last edited by A Former User

                @leocg said in Unknown insecure content blocked:

                If a browser is blocking something because it could be a (security) risk for the user, then why that browser should show the link to what was blocked, exposing the user to the risk?

                you're not showing the full link, only the domain name of the resource blocked
                I don't see any security risk here because the user is usually aware the reported content is malicious.
                it's common sense to know NOT to expose themselves to the domain
                but if they do, that's entirely on them, not your fault

                @yeswap said in Unknown insecure content blocked:

                @Tcll What extension are you using that you think is blocking insecure content?
                All browsers block insecure content by default. As far as I know none of them give end users detailed information.

                the extension I'm using that I know is blocking the content is Opera's ad-blocker:
                opera.png
                (this is engine-level functionality, which is better than something like UBlock)
                but compare what you've told from it here:
                blocked.png

                to something like (I had to find a site that displayed info on everything):
                UBlock:
                UBlock.png
                Avast:
                Avast.png
                TrafficLight:
                BDTL.png

                why is it all these extensions can display more info than Opera?
                now yes, TrafficLight is very vague when it comes to blocked content
                but it still gives you relative info to look at

                and all extensions (including Opera) even allow you to unblock said content
                so that whole security risk argument is invalid since you have an "Unblock" button
                (actually you have 2 security companies shown proving your argument invalid)

                so since you have an unblock button, why not display the domains of what's blocked for a better quality user experience??
                I've just shown 3 extensions that give a better user experience (more pro quality) than Opera's more than ad blocker.
                please fix this

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                • yeswap
                  yeswap @Guest last edited by yeswap

                  @Tcll The "Blocked Insecure Content" message you posted is not from the Opera Ad Blocker. It's from the core browser engine. All Blink based browsers display this same message when they detect insecure content. Here's how it looks in Chrome:
                  Screenshot 2019-08-12 at 9.53.51 PM.png

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                  • A Former User
                    A Former User @yeswap last edited by A Former User

                    @yeswap alright that's fair
                    I didn't reallize this was a general browser feature and not from opera's core engine-level "extension"

                    that said though, you're turning core functionality into an extension
                    why not add extension level functionality for better error reporting as well?? 🙂

                    I still hold my offer, I'm willing to add such functionality if you guys aren't 😉
                    (and being a FOSS supporter, I'm willing to do it for free)

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                    • leocg
                      leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                      @Tcll Anyway, the info of what URLs were blocked is not very useful for the end user. On the contrary, it may cause confusion since they don't know all the links on the page source.

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                      • leocg
                        leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                        @Tcll You can do a suggestion for more info to be displayed.

                        Don't forget to also ask for Chromium.

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                        • A Former User
                          A Former User @leocg last edited by A Former User

                          @leocg hmm...
                          I guess that's fair
                          and in defense of that (now that I recall), UBlock does have the default option to display less info, looking like this instead:

                          Don't forget to also ask for Chromium.

                          you mean like, request on the Chromium project??
                          or request on the Chromium build of Opera??

                          sorry, mind my autism 😛

                          EDIT: where would I request btw, if here isn't the option do do so??

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                          • leocg
                            leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by

                            @Tcll You can do the request here in the forums, in the proper section for it.

                            Don't know how you can do requests for Chromium.

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                            • A Former User
                              A Former User @leocg last edited by

                              @leocg oh '3'
                              alright, sure thing

                              and as for the chromium bit
                              I think I'll hold off because chromium doesn't have a built-in ad blocker "extension"
                              you guys are the only ones doing this I'm afraid, Vivaldi and Brave only have extensions.

                              I know I can request on their GitHub though, but I highly doubt they'd listen
                              I think we both know Chromium isn't exactly focused on privacy or chromium-based Opera wouldn't need to exist. 😛
                              let alone Vivaldi, Brave, Comodo Dragon, and other less secure Chromium-based browsers.

                              so yeah, I'll just request here since it's your functionality 😉

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                              • leocg
                                leocg Moderator Volunteer @Guest last edited by leocg

                                @Tcll So there would be two requests, one for the adblocker and another for the subject of this topic, the content blocker?

                                The second one probably would need to be implemented by Chromium.

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                                • A Former User
                                  A Former User @leocg last edited by

                                  @leocg or rather, merging the ad blocker and content blocker into a more secure service, and providing extended information for various uses...
                                  I'll be honest, with common sense, I thought Opera's ad blocker and content blocker were the same thing
                                  or rather, logically, I thought Opera's ad blocker was an extension of the content blocker...
                                  why would they be different? that just abstracts the same functionality into something less maintainable 😕

                                  anyways, yeah I'm not making that chromium request
                                  I'm pretty sure chromium isn't going to integrate an ad blocker unless something goes viral and there's a REAL (mainstream) need for it

                                  you guys would have a better chance bashing some security sense into chromium devs than I would 😉
                                  and even then, they'll likely just data collect for google anyways, which isn't exactly comforting 😕
                                  (this is exactly why un-google'd chromium exists)

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                                  • A Former User
                                    A Former User last edited by

                                    just to notify, the request has been made here:
                                    https://forums.opera.com/topic/34455/request-optional-user-controlled-detailed-information-on-blocked-content

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