Posts made by tteksystems

I like the option to make that choice and refuse to let someone else force feed me something I do not want.

This Opera browser is no better than it was when they destroyed the entire vision from Opera when 12.xx was still mainstream. Fact is, the extensions made it more tolerable. And those are not even the work of Opera's design team. Getting any browser to function well usually depends on how good the extensions/plugins are. And until the great extensions were finally available for New Opera, there was no hope for it. And now, I still see no hope because I sense a very unappreciative type of persona behind the effort responsible for building this browser. I do not think the design team gives a damn what end users want and could care less if a half million users look the other way just because there is no file, edit, view menu across the top. And that is very sad. I would immediately want to at least make it an option just as other great browsers have done. This way, it will appeal to both sides of the coin instead of this selfish motif that has long since driven this browser to where it is. An arrogant selfish mentality that says do it our way or hit the road. And the road is just fine with me

I am a user that is involved in alot of online activities between business, personal, and social. My internet usage is probably considered extreme and a feature rich browser is a must. I gave Opera a try several years ago but a few years ago I gave v.12.xx a try. I learned alot about using a browser and although most people will not modify and make use of many of the settings and features, I found ways to make use of these things in v.12.xx. I was thoroughly disappointed when I heard about the decision to abandon Presto but I also understood some of the reasoning behind it. Most of the original members of Opera, including the owner, were no longer there. The original owner sold all his shares in the company and most of the development team was new, based on what I read.

Anyway, I was always clueless why such a good Opera browser would be abandoned in order to pave the way for what is now being called "Opera". People want a good browser that has the tools to make life online more convenient, simple, and fast. Many users are not very literate and the most simplistic of browsers can do the job for them. I never realized just how powerful Opera 12.17 was until I started to dig deep into the settings. There is no turning back once you become dependent on a specific function or feature. You either have to release better version, or you are taking a step backwards. And I depend on, and need, some of the functionality of Opera 12.17.

So the original post in this thread was a pretty good way to see just how many people might still need to find ways to get that functionality in a different browser that is still being supported. I want to continue using Opera 12.17 but since the latest update is said to be final, it is not really in anyone's best interest to remain attached to 12.17. I do not mean it is not worth using. It still is very useful. But maybe we have to admit defeat and make provisions to ensure we have options. And thank you, by the way, to anyone who posted some of the viable options that can give us some of that Old Opera vibe, but in other browsers. I am using a program in FireFox called SimpleFill. It gives back that option in the context menu when you right click and select personal in Opera 12.17. If that helps anyone, great. It's all I have so far. Although I did like the options mentioned regarding Mail in SeaMonkey. I too use Opera Mail but would welcome any options offering a better solution.

I try to understand everyone's feeling. One guy insists Opera's new version does not deserve to be criticized. If we did not become familiar with how great and powerful Opera 12.17 was, then we would not have anything to compare to, and the new Opera would not get so much flack. But the way Opera was just abandoned, without much, if any, support, is pretty arrogant. Me and alot of other people were posting questions and looking for answers in the old forums all the way until the day they closed. The type of responses we got from Opera were nothing short of arrogant and I remember one answer from Opera to the question about support for all of the notes, bookmarks, and data that was all being held captive in v.12.16. The answer was to embrace change and to stop whining and enter the information manually and/or cut an paste. In other words, do what you have to do because Opera had no intention of making it easy for any of us. Arrogance. And I won't ever respect that.

Well, if that's all you need for your daily use, it's fine. But being critical of anyone for offering solutions to others to help bring back those features we depended on in early Opera sounds like someone who is trying to get people to see New Opera in a different light. Well, forget it. It won't happen any time soon. It's like that crap with Windows 8. Maybe there was a chance the world would embrace it but as soon as everyone saw the start menu was gone and many things within the user interface changed, it did not go over well. And people made it clear how they felt. As they should. We are the ones who are supporting you while you provide us with the tools to manage our lives day in and day out. If you expect continues support, then provide something that will make it better, and not worst. Stop trying to force feed us something we don't like while trying to convince us it tastes good.
Look what happened with the major update to Windows 8. They returned the start menu in 8.1 and to date, there are several companies that have gone to great lengths to provide 3rd party programs for a powerful start menu within Windows 8. We have to voice our opinions. But, in the case of Opera 12.xx vs New Opera, there are no opinions when someone tells you the new Opera is not able to fulfill the needs as well as the old Opera. That seems more fact than opinion. Because what I like is not just an opinion. It's a fact that the old Opera made my workload easier and in this day and age, the hardware is plenty fast so I do not care about milliseconds difference on page loads. So Chromium has very little to brag about. And it is a fact that my workload is hampered when using the new Opera and I have more manual input as a result of not having features that were abandoned.
We all should admit that the new Opera has very efficient functionality. It's simple, yet effective. But far from earning the right to be considered an "UPGRADE" to 12.17. It's a different animal. It should not even be compared to 12.17. It's like comparing A hyundai to Cadillac GTS. Both will take there but the Cadillac (Opera 12.xx) can do so in style and with much more luxury because of so many great features

Don't hold back your frustrations. You have every right to express your feeling about this. I for one have been more than loyal to this company and their browser and without warning they pull the plug on a very stable business venture that kept me going for a very long time. I pushed their browser on thousands of clients and one day the workload becomes so much of a burden that no one can get any work done because of complaints regarding the old browser because it needs to be updated for future compatibility concerns and the new version is the most disgraceful excuse of a browser.

I am not a whiner, I am a realist and pretty good judge of a good browser. We are the users who made their business worthwhile, so we are the ones that they should focus on when trying to implement something. Opera is using the chromium platform and that in itself is quite the problem. A 16GB computer running many tabs and getting out of memory messages? Yeah ok. We all know their are ways around it but the fact remains, Operas vision is still stuck inside someone's head. It has not made it to a desktop. This entire platform is a wasted effort based on the results thus far, and if they want to continue to show their arrogance and ignore the users that made it possible for their browser of yesteryear to be widely acclaimed, then we can stop using anything new they have to offer. Which is basically nothing.

Facts are facts and the people at Opera are toying with 3 or 4 different versions for Windows when they should put their heads together and actually work on one browser version and put out something useful to the user. Most of us can care less what new features are being revealed in NEXT and Developer is essentially doing the same. Seems very redundant. They ignore the requests to bring back very important features from the old User Interface and they expect you to embrace change and adapt. How arrogant. If all of the users of version 12 have to continue using version 12 to get any work done, it really says alot. I for one have to use version 12 because every time I try to use version 20, I run into so many brick walls because of the lack of functionality. It is truly a dysfunctional browser at the moment.

I am confident that opera can make this a good browser but they are only face-lifting chrome. It seem like they have taken this challenge to one up Google Chrome or something. They want to re-invent the wheel when they already had one of the best browsers out there. If they are willing to release a browser that is dysfunctional, then they are pretty foolish. You don't release a new browser and expect everyone to follow by upgrading if it is a downgrade. One step forward, and 3 steps back. Almost a year has passed since the inception of the new Opera and still no simple method to import bookmarks. No method to do anything. This is pure arrogance. 1 year and so many upgrades later and I cannot find one good reason to embrace anything on the new Opera. It really stinks. They more or less are telling everyone they do not care about us. So let them continue to waste valuable resources and get nothing done. I was always able to export my bookmarks from Opera 12 as HTML and then import them into chrome. Pretty sad when they are not even capable of giving us a simple method to import bookmarks. You know what it looks like? Maybe the one who was responsible for the development and support of the original Opera left. Maybe they have to go a different direction because they currently have some new employees that are all about Chromium. And maybe there is another Agenda that will help them in more ways than help us. It is definitely a selfish move. Because nobody who uses Opera 12 can say with any truthfulness, that any of the new Opera is even close to what they once had.

Good luck to Opera and thanks for........ pretty much nothing