Originally posted by Pesala:

Originally posted by videobruce:

I can't believe you said that. What wasted space, I sure as hell don't see any.

With the menu bar enabled, the Windows title bar is also displayed. Your screen shot shows that you're wasting 45 vertical pixels out of 955, so about 4.71% of available screen space. The button menu uses no space at all when not in use, which is any time that you're reading, writing, or looking at pictures/video. The top menu and title bar are always present, whether they are being used or not. Other browsers (Firefox/IE11) at least hide it when it's not in use.

Who cares about space on the screen when now I you want me to spend 1/2 my time looking at the sides to find what previously just took me 1 click - hovering -click ????

Supose that M$ was an automobile manufactor.

They decided to get rid of the steering wwheel and use the small rearview mirror control button instead... OP folowed them in their demential idea.

You get tree(phun intended) choices .. start to drive using a tiny buttopn/stick ... keep the old car ... or buy a different brand.

FYIO I never even gave chrome a chance because IT DIDN'T HAD a menu bar ... If I upgrade from OP12 to a new version I might as well forget opera as a "default browser" and do a complete change ... wich might as well be to a new one from a different brand.

For the time being I'll keep the "old" 12x installed. But the future will tell for how long.

**Pesala
Reclining Buddha
I do not have a single program without menu bar.
You are using Windows I presume. Where is the menu bar for Windows? Oh! It doesn't have one, just a Start button that shows a menu, like Opera since about version 9 or 10.

I really feel sorry for those who simply refuse to adapt to the way things are. Change is an inevitable part of progress, and nothing stays the same for ever. I can remember when you had to dial a phone number by turning a wheel with holes in it.

Maybe the Linux version will have a menu bar, but I doubt if it will return to the Windows version. If it never returns, what are you guys going to do? At least if we can customise the menus, we can Fix the Button menu to be just like the old top menu, then there's very little to relearn.**

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