Posts made by samstabauser

i test the opera final version 59.1.2926.54067

on my huawei 6x

seems fine too

@ginger1984

Would you try the new opera beta v. 60 on your devices too?

cant believe it - nearly 2 years later.

i installed opera beta for android Opera beta_60.0.2955.54227
on my Samsung t580 tablet
via play store

and no judder while finger scrolling anymore

Thanks a lot to the developter

@leocg

please add an offline bookmark export import function, please

that´s what me bother all the time...

@ginger
thank you for your support at this point.
I appreciate all your input in this issue.
Hope we really whip the Llama's A..
I still prefer the opera for android GUI.

P.S.:
My last iOS device was an iphone 4s with iOS 8 and 9.
What i really dislike is: Safari does not support kinetic scrolling. at least till iOS 9.3.5
Does anyone know if this issue is still in current iOS versions?

@ginger1984
pseudo code

if then else

or case ??

This is Samsung it's way to say it's time to buy a new Galaxy for 750 Euro.

I won´t do that

btw i installed the Samsung browser on my huawei Honor
THAT produce stuttering too, i can tell you. Someone on google playstore comment this too and Samsung reaction was.
Other device manufacturer doesn´t have that technology to deliver the Samsung experience. I can´t believe they really put such a reaction online.

But opera shouldn´t be like this cause it´s chinese too.
Hope firefox for android will get a better GUI + more fluid reaction behaviour . It´s just a mess on android.

@ginger1984

thank you for your reply. It´s so sad - they still just don´t fix that issue.

One think i have to add.
it is NOT only a Samsung Chrome opera problem in my opinion,
cause it also exist on my Huawei Honor 6x with Hi-Silicon Kirin 655 SoC

Good the XDA people also recognise this problem.

Just translate this webpage to your language...
https://www.androidpit.de/samsung-galaxy-smartphones-apple-iphone-nach-updates-langsamer-strafe

there are words for such behaviour - planned obsolescence

Fun fact - as you wrote Samsung highend smartphones S8 and S10 are also affected. So it´s not only a budget class problem.

Glad i/we have android apks to install an old version to fix this issue.

yes
Cache on opera for android can reach round about 200-300MB.

https://www.testufo.com/framerates-text

just an techdemo website that shows the huge impact of 30 vs 60 fps while scrolling text websites.

@neetesha said in Bad scrolling:

@samstabauser We have checked the issue here and it is not reproducing locally. If possible could you please share a video to explain what exactly bothering you?

as it seems my video doesn´t realy help for easy understanding what i and 4 other opera fans are complaining here.

Here is a website that does show this stutter behaviour on moving text better. It is a techdemo website that REproduce complex problems in display technology faults.
https://www.testufo.com/framerates-text

btw scrolling user experience on current opera touch and opera mini versions right now offer are still fine but the GUI is not the same and not what i (we) need.

@starfruit135
Thank you! Still the same here on my Samsung T580 tablet.

Would you please write which Android device you exactly use?
https://forums.opera.com/topic/26794/instructions-on-posting-about-problems-in-opera-for-android/2

What i wish for the next version is a "search on website" button beside the red opera and the tab switch button so we have to click only once. For me it´s an important function.

On my 10,1" tablet i use opera in telephone app layout and there is so many room for shortcuts like this.
The Boat browser also had an option to customize the toolbar.

Unfortunately it isn´t developed anymore.

so problem still exist.

This bad scrolling problem also exist on the Google Nexus successor Pixel2 XL.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/Ev24GWfSEUE
He tried Opera browser v.49 on this Android 9 device that use a Qualcomm 835 highend SoC.

Thanks Andrey for your feedback.

From time to time i will report if this huge regression is solved or not.

Samsung updated it´s browser to Version 8.0.xxx and switched to chromium 63 engine.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sec.android.app.sbrowser.beta&hl=de

Still smooth finger scrolling behaviour.

@neetesha

so i finally got a 720p60 Videocamera that captured this problem...

https://youtu.be/XGjarsHZvjc

Im not happy with youtube compression but you still can see kinetic scrolling is way smoother while finger scrolling is juddering.

Hope this helps.

@neetesha

Video is problematic because i dont have a camera that shot in 60 fps right now.
maybe i can do this if i got a camera.

So what did you confirm exactly 15 days ago?
and what did you change?

Cause i´m not a native english speaker how would you describe these different scrolling styles?
If you use kinetic scrolling, smooth scrolling is still there.

Status report

Did Opera beta Update to 49.0.2359.133590 via playstore

Problem on Samsung Tab A 2016 10.1" still not solved.

@neetesha
as promised i will check and report if it is solved or not...

Did the Opera beta playstore update from 16.11.2018.
changelog description said

- Media player fixes
- Scrolling performance fixes

What i got on my Samsung Tab A 2016 (T580) tablet is.
48.1.2331.133223

Unfortunately scrolling still behaves 30 FPS like if scrolling style 1 is used.
kinetic scrolling still much smoother.

So Problem NOT solved with this particular beta release on Samsung's Exynos 7870 Octa SoC platform with ARM Mali-T830 MP2 GPU.

Further investigation by software engineers recommended.

@leocg
I distinguish between 2 types of scrolling "styles".

1. normal scrolling = finger on screen and move (slow or fast) while finger stays(!) on screen (not good for long websites like wikipedia)

2. kinetic scrolling = finger on screen and push website so it automatically(!) scrolls fast as shown in the video without(!) finger on the screen.

3. does have the issue - especially when you move the finger fast.
   -> scrolling behaves like 30 FPS

@neetesha

Thank you - btw i use the opera version 48 beta from playstore, too com.opera.browser.beta

Would you write a posting in this thread when you have a solution for the beta APK paketname so we can check if it is solved and boti99 and i can give you a feedback without losing settings in paketname com.opera.browser

That would be great

@leocg

no difference between kinetic-scrolling and normal scrolling style? hardly to believe.

by the way

I use a Samsung Tab A 2016 tablet (T580) with current Android 8.1 but Andorid 7 was the same.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-A-10-1-2016-Tablet-Review.171710.0.html

Coud be possible that this bug only exist on certain android devices.
The stutter scrolling behaviour also exist on my Huawei honor 6x.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Honor-6X-Smartphone-Review.207056.0.html
Thats why i still use older Opera for android apk´s on this device too.

Should really be investigate by software engineers.

one more thing 30 vs 60 fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChsT-y7Yvkk

https://www.testufo.com/ (on of my fav tech sites)